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1. Most Often: UNDERCOVER/TATTOO YOU
2. Almost As Often: GOATS HEAD SOUP/EMOTIONAL RESCUE
3. Never...Under Any Circumstances: DIRTY WORK
4. When Seeking A Guilty Pleasure: BETWEEN THE BUTTONS
5. That You'd Never Admit To: TSMR - only the EP's worth of good songs
6. If You Need A Shot Of Adrenaline: GET YER YA-YA'S OUT!, STILL LIFE, NO SECURITY (certain tracks), LOVE YOU LIVE (certain tracks)
7. When You Want To Appreciate Pure Genius: LET IT BLEED, STICKY FINGERS, TATTOO YOU
8. When You're Itching To Turn Back The Clock: SUCKING IN THE 70S, REWIND
9. When Life Has Got You Down: A BIGGER BANG (this came out right after Hurricane Katrina kept me on the run and rurnt my life for a while, the only thing positive at that point, so it has that kind of uplift for me)
10. When People Tell You The Stones Don't Matter Anymore: Living In A Ghost Town: I've played it for some people and they were absolutely floored that it was The Rolling Stones. Not that that really matters but they did really like it.
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1. Most Often: UNDERCOVER/TATTOO YOU
2. Almost As Often: GOATS HEAD SOUP/EMOTIONAL RESCUE
3. Never...Under Any Circumstances: DIRTY WORK
4. When Seeking A Guilty Pleasure: BETWEEN THE BUTTONS
5. That You'd Never Admit To: TSMR - only the EP's worth of good songs
6. If You Need A Shot Of Adrenaline: GET YER YA-YA'S OUT!, STILL LIFE, NO SECURITY (certain tracks), LOVE YOU LIVE (certain tracks)
7. When You Want To Appreciate Pure Genius: LET IT BLEED, STICKY FINGERS, TATTOO YOU
8. When You're Itching To Turn Back The Clock: SUCKING IN THE 70S, REWIND
9. When Life Has Got You Down: A BIGGER BANG (this came out right after Hurricane Katrina kept me on the run and rurnt my life for a while, the only thing positive at that point, so it has that kind of uplift for me)
10. When People Tell You The Stones Don't Matter Anymore: Living In A Ghost Town: I've played it for some people and they were absolutely floored that it was The Rolling Stones. Not that that really matters but they did really like it.
No Exile for you?
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It doesn't necessarily not say it...
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1. Most Often: 'Sticky Fingers'
2. Almost as Often: 'Steel Wheels'
3. Never...Under Any Circumstances: 'Their Satanic'
4. When Seeking a Guilty Pleasure: 'Dirty Work'
5. That You'd Never Admit Not to Like: 'Exile...'
6. If You Need a Shot of Adrenaline: Maybe "Dirty Work", played loud?
7. When You Want to Appreciate Pure Genius: None of the Stones records, not this category...
8. When You're Itching to Turn Back the Clock: 'Flashpoint'
9. When Life Has Got You Down: 'Beggars Banquet'
10. When People Tell You the Stones Don't Matter Anymore: Some of the recent DVD's 1990+
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It doesn't necessarily not say it...
I can't help assumptions. Why anyone would assume such a thing makes no sense to me. What, is it some kind of thing that one has to list EXILE in every @#$%& poll with the Stones?
That's @#$%& stupid.
Nowhere does it imply I don't listen to EXILE or BEGGARS BANQUET or BLACK AND BLUE or IORR.
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Yeah, I know. I was just using "the throw whatever you can at the wall and see if it sticks" line of argument.
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It doesn't necessarily not say it...
I can't help assumptions. Why anyone would assume such a thing makes no sense to me. What, is it some kind of thing that one has to list EXILE in every @#$%& poll with the Stones?
That's @#$%& stupid.
Nowhere does it imply I don't listen to EXILE or BEGGARS BANQUET or BLACK AND BLUE or IORR.
I thought there was a law that one should always at least once say "Exile" on a post here. But you're right. I read the forum rules again and in fact there is no such law. I will now go and exile myself.
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1. Most Often: Dirty Work
2. Almost as Often: Out Of Our Heads (UK)
3. Never ... Under Any Circumstances: Goddess In The Doorway and A Bigger Bang
4. When Seeking a Guilty Pleasure: first Marianne Faithfull album
5. That You'd Never Admit To: I'd never admit to it.
6. If You Need a Shot of Adrenaline: Dirty Work
7. When You Want to Appreciate Pure Genius: Dirty Work
8. When You're Itching to Turn Back the Clock: Around And Around (German compilation from 1964)
9. When Life Has Got You Down: first Ramones album
10. When People Tell You the Stones Don't Matter Anymore: Crosseyed Heart
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
I can't tell if you're being a prick or are serious. If you don't know what corporate rock is then you'll never know...just carry on with your life
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
Corporate rock at it's best....I just don't know...it was something you had to see on MTV in the 80's...it wasn't pretty
At least the Stones didn't do a Michelob commercial
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
I can't tell if you're being a prick or are serious. If you don't know what corporate rock is then you'll never know...just carry on with your life
Oh I'm serious. Curious. It's a new twist on something, attempting to find some scale. You said SW was corporate rock at its worst - that means there must be an opposite, which would be excellent corporate rock - so what would that be? I don't know!
Since you're using corporate rock as a derogative then STEEL WHEELS was corporate rock at its finest, actually, in this case, and if that is the case then there must be the opposite as well, which would be at its worse, which means it's hardly corporate. Not sure what that could be. Maybe latter day Aerosmith?
All of that aside, what would you consider to be good corporate rock? I can't think of anything because I've never thought of it that way.
Phil Collins era Genesis?
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
I can't tell if you're being a prick or are serious. If you don't know what corporate rock is then you'll never know...just carry on with your life
Oh I'm serious. Curious. It's a new twist on something, attempting to find some scale. You said SW was corporate rock at its worst - that means there must be an opposite, which would be excellent corporate rock - so what would that be? I don't know!
Since you're using corporate rock as a derogative then STEEL WHEELS was corporate rock at its finest, actually, in this case, and if that is the case then there must be the opposite as well, which would be at its worse, which means it's hardly corporate. Not sure what that could be. Maybe latter day Aerosmith?
All of that aside, what would you consider to be good corporate rock? I can't think of anything because I've never thought of it that way.
Phil Collins era Genesis?
Well if you're serious then yes latter Aerosmith is a great example, also later Genesis, you've got down. Just lame soul-less music made for the masses...it sold well and made the Artists lots of money but lost a lot of the fans that they started with.
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
I can't tell if you're being a prick or are serious. If you don't know what corporate rock is then you'll never know...just carry on with your life
Oh I'm serious. Curious. It's a new twist on something, attempting to find some scale. You said SW was corporate rock at its worst - that means there must be an opposite, which would be excellent corporate rock - so what would that be? I don't know!
Since you're using corporate rock as a derogative then STEEL WHEELS was corporate rock at its finest, actually, in this case, and if that is the case then there must be the opposite as well, which would be at its worse, which means it's hardly corporate. Not sure what that could be. Maybe latter day Aerosmith?
All of that aside, what would you consider to be good corporate rock? I can't think of anything because I've never thought of it that way.
Phil Collins era Genesis?
Well if you're serious then yes latter Aerosmith is a great example, also later Genesis, you've got down. Just lame soul-less music made for the masses...it sold well and made the Artists lots of money but lost a lot of the fans that they started with.
I apologize for being rude, just things get ugly on this board real quick
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
I can't tell if you're being a prick or are serious. If you don't know what corporate rock is then you'll never know...just carry on with your life
Oh I'm serious. Curious. It's a new twist on something, attempting to find some scale. You said SW was corporate rock at its worst - that means there must be an opposite, which would be excellent corporate rock - so what would that be? I don't know!
Since you're using corporate rock as a derogative then STEEL WHEELS was corporate rock at its finest, actually, in this case, and if that is the case then there must be the opposite as well, which would be at its worse, which means it's hardly corporate. Not sure what that could be. Maybe latter day Aerosmith?
All of that aside, what would you consider to be good corporate rock? I can't think of anything because I've never thought of it that way.
Phil Collins era Genesis?
Well if you're serious then yes latter Aerosmith is a great example, also later Genesis, you've got down. Just lame soul-less music made for the masses...it sold well and made the Artists lots of money but lost a lot of the fans that they started with.
I apologize for being rude, just things get ugly on this board real quick
Sorry. I should've been more clear I wasn't messing with you. But it did get me thinking. I suppose the word "slick" should've been more of a giveaway regarding what you were thinking of, especially given STEEL WHEELS' overall sound (production, really).
Aerosmith - the joke with some friends, which still comes up to this day, was that with GET A GRIP they released 3 singles in a row that were the same song. I know they're actually not but damn they do sound so... interchangeable regarding their titles. I was Amazing when I was Cryin', it's Crazy etc.
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
I can't tell if you're being a prick or are serious. If you don't know what corporate rock is then you'll never know...just carry on with your life
Oh I'm serious. Curious. It's a new twist on something, attempting to find some scale. You said SW was corporate rock at its worst - that means there must be an opposite, which would be excellent corporate rock - so what would that be? I don't know!
Since you're using corporate rock as a derogative then STEEL WHEELS was corporate rock at its finest, actually, in this case, and if that is the case then there must be the opposite as well, which would be at its worse, which means it's hardly corporate. Not sure what that could be. Maybe latter day Aerosmith?
All of that aside, what would you consider to be good corporate rock? I can't think of anything because I've never thought of it that way.
Phil Collins era Genesis?
Well if you're serious then yes latter Aerosmith is a great example, also later Genesis, you've got down. Just lame soul-less music made for the masses...it sold well and made the Artists lots of money but lost a lot of the fans that they started with.
I apologize for being rude, just things get ugly on this board real quick
Sorry. I should've been more clear I wasn't messing with you. But it did get me thinking. I suppose the word "slick" should've been more of a giveaway regarding what you were thinking of, especially given STEEL WHEELS' overall sound (production, really).
Aerosmith - the joke with some friends, which still comes up to this day, was that with GET A GRIP they released 3 singles in a row that were the same song. I know they're actually not but damn they do sound so... interchangeable regarding their titles. I was Amazing when I was Cryin', it's Crazy etc.
Corporate Rock at it's best...U2 doing Vertigo, initially released on the Apple Commercial.
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Doxa
A great opener, FancyBluesFan!
But I must admit that since taking The Digital Turn I don't listen very much albums any longer, similarly like Stoneage put it. Just singular songs from here and there. Many times I pick up some song discussed here at IORR, and then go on from there, as I feel like. (The last one was "No Use In Crying" after which I ended up listening the whole TATTOO YOU album). Surely some new releases are the ones I tend up listen more closely, the last one was Dylan's latest that I listen for many weeks from the start to the end. However, as the online business nowadays allows, I might listen stuff that I wouldn't have earlier (when I needed to buy the record to hear the stuff) just out of curiosity and lack of anything else to do. I listened Macca's new album, and I think I have ever listened any of his albums completely ever before. Waste of time, if you ask me... (gladly no one does).
Anyway, I have a big exception to a rule: summer. I happen to have a vinyl player set (a damn good one) at my summer house, and there I listen my old vinyl collection and albums as wholesome deals. It is like listening those old albums fresh again. Living through them again. The place - an old farm belonging to my ancestors - is in the middle of nowhere (literally) and since my closest neighbor lives about one kilometer away, I many times put the speakers outside and listen damn loud (well, my family might sometimes have an opinion about that though...). That's simply wonderful to listen Watts and Wyman groove while drinking a few beers and heating up a sauna in a beautiful, lightful summer night (the latter is a typical Finnish ritual). After a few summers experience, for some reason the albums that give me most pleasure seems to be the early ones: the first, the second, and OUT OF OUR HEADS (I hate myself for selling my copy of AROUND AND AROUND back in the day). Extra kudos to the early EPs as well: THE ROLLING STONES, 5X5 and GOT LIVE IF YOU WANT IT! It is incredible how much pure energy and vitality those early records have, and how damn powerful they sonically sound (to really get that one needs to have the original mono copies).
But music is always a pretty contextual thing: different things work differently in different circumstances (depends on the place and medium, people, own mindset, etc.). As far as my summer experience and digging the early Stones goes, I guess primitive music works in a primitive place for a primitive mind...
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Allow me to give this some context, I'm 53, the first Stones album I bought was ER, the first tour I saw was in 81. Dirty Work was bad but I was truly horrified when they came back with Steel Wheels, corporate rock at it's worst...
I need to know. I must know: please give an example of corporate rock at its best.
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7. When You Want to Appreciate Pure Genius: None of the Stones records, not this category...
Really? Not even like Let it Bleed? I do think that LIB and Sticky could vie for that.
Well... let me stick to my opinion
I never considered Stones in category of genius - and if so, "pure genius" expression suits better to other kinds of music. But that's me. If I want to appreciate pure genius... I never listen to Stones with this attitude.
I would rather use words like "ingenuity", "uniqueness", "honesty", "sheer pleasure", "fun" - not necessarily associated with "pure genius" term.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-12-26 21:45 by tomekdp.