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TravelinMan
Do we have a consensus on the lineup from the original sessions? I understand Wood overdubbed a guitar 50 years later, but I'm specifically talking about the one featured on the "fully finished outtakes".

I hear:

Jagger - vocals
Richards - acoustic
Taylor - electric guitar (I've gone back and forth between Taylor/Richards here, but the perfect bends and vibrato in the solo lend to Taylor)
Wyman - bass
Watts - drums

Preston - piano

Although it has a very Goats Head vibe, I believe this version is from the IORR sessions. I'm guessing there is one in the vaults from 1972. Or did this version originate in Miami and it was worked on a few years later?


Side note: I feel like this could have originated with Jagger behind the piano.

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TravelinMan

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TravelinMan
Do we have a consensus on the lineup from the original sessions? I understand Wood overdubbed a guitar 50 years later, but I'm specifically talking about the one featured on the "fully finished outtakes".

I hear:

Jagger - vocals
Richards - acoustic
Taylor - electric guitar (I've gone back and forth between Taylor/Richards here, but the perfect bends and vibrato in the solo lend to Taylor)
Wyman - bass
Watts - drums

Preston - piano

Although it has a very Goats Head vibe, I believe this version is from the IORR sessions. I'm guessing there is one in the vaults from 1972. Or did this version originate in Miami and it was worked on a few years later?


Side note: I feel like this could have originated with Jagger behind the piano.

Update. After listening intently:

Jagger - vocals
Taylor - acoustic
Richards - electric guitar
Wyman - bass
Watts - drums

Preston - piano

I believe this makes more sense. I think Taylor played acoustic on a handful of "Jagger songs", while Richards played lead or ornamental parts.

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TravelinMan
^ I had already updated this and I agree, KR on electric guitar:

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TravelinMan

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TravelinMan
Do we have a consensus on the lineup from the original sessions? I understand Wood overdubbed a guitar 50 years later, but I'm specifically talking about the one featured on the "fully finished outtakes".

I hear:

Jagger - vocals
Richards - acoustic
Taylor - electric guitar (I've gone back and forth between Taylor/Richards here, but the perfect bends and vibrato in the solo lend to Taylor)
Wyman - bass
Watts - drums

Preston - piano

Although it has a very Goats Head vibe, I believe this version is from the IORR sessions. I'm guessing there is one in the vaults from 1972. Or did this version originate in Miami and it was worked on a few years later?


Side note: I feel like this could have originated with Jagger behind the piano.

Update. After listening intently:

Jagger - vocals
Taylor - acoustic
Richards - electric guitar
Wyman - bass
Watts - drums

Preston - piano

I believe this makes more sense. I think Taylor played acoustic on a handful of "Jagger songs", while Richards played lead or ornamental parts.

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Doxa
Of the deluxe tracks this is the one I think is the most 'Tattoo Youed'. Jagger took the old out-take and updated it to fit his mouth here and now, not even trying to copy the 'original'. I like his fragile and smooth delivery in the early versions - there is a peculiar charm there - but the new, finally finished version has the Tattoo You-like determination, the dude knowing exactly what he does. The strong, matured voice is full of experience and urge, of blues and soul. Convincing.

Would have fitted to the B side of TATTOO YOU. The sort of texture, melodical richness and its over-all depthness. One of the very best things I have heard from them for a very long time. Still a personal favourite.

- Doxa

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gotdablouse
It's true that the "Jamaica" and "Miami" songs never appeared or "After Muddy and Charly"...I wonder if "Miami" wasn't identified as "Heartbreaker" somehow though ?

I don't know where stonessessions got his info from but it seems unlikely to me that this song was recorded in "1971 Nellcote, France / Sunset Sound Studios, Los Angeles". Maybe he's going by the info on the Mayflower boot [www.dbboots.com] but you can see it's the same version that first appeared on "Could You Walk On The Water" in late 93.

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It's true that the "Jamaica" and "Miami" songs never appeared or "After Muddy and Charly"...I wonder if "Miami" wasn't identified as "Heartbreaker" somehow though ?

I don't know where stonessessions got his info from but it seems unlikely to me that this song was recorded in "1971 Nellcote, France / Sunset Sound Studios, Los Angeles". Maybe he's going by the info on the Mayflower boot [www.dbboots.com] but you can see it's the same version that first appeared on "Could You Walk On The Water" in late 93.

Tattoo You deluxe cites Fast Talking being recorded in Miami and then tried again in Kingston. The version booted and included on Tattoo You comes from Munich.

I’m not sure where the Miami/Heartbreaker theory comes from. The only song on Goats featuring any contribution by Jim Price is arranger on Heartbreaker. He is listed on the instrumental however. So perhaps that’s where this idea comes from? I don’t ever remember reading Jim Price went to Jamaica. Ron Nevison and Howard Kilgore are the engineers for the two instrumentals FWIW