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GasLightStreet
Keith's point of view is accurate about Mick's tour:
Keith Richards (August 1988): Mick in Japan
I thought it was very sad that a high percentage of his show was Rolling Stones songs. If you're going to do something on your own, do stuff off the two albums you did. Don't pretend you're a solo artist and have two chicks prancing around doing Tumbling Dice, do you know what I mean? That severely pisses me off.
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It is interesting, though, to a point. It's too bad Mick didn't play the better (best) songs from PRIMITIVE COOL on the tour. Aside from Throwaway the rest of the PC songs don't make sense. But whatever. Pretty cheesy production nevertheless.
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GasLightStreet
Keith's point of view is accurate about Mick's tour:
Keith Richards (August 1988): Mick in Japan
I thought it was very sad that a high percentage of his show was Rolling Stones songs. If you're going to do something on your own, do stuff off the two albums you did. Don't pretend you're a solo artist and have two chicks prancing around doing Tumbling Dice, do you know what I mean? That severely pisses me off.
[timeisonourside.com]
It is interesting, though, to a point. It's too bad Mick didn't play the better (best) songs from PRIMITIVE COOL on the tour. Aside from Throwaway the rest of the PC songs don't make sense. But whatever. Pretty cheesy production nevertheless.
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Stoneage
Why blame Jimmy Rip? He's doing what he's paid for. Professionally so. He can't turn himself into Keith Richards. The blame belongs somewhere else...
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Stoneage
Why blame Jimmy Rip? He's doing what he's paid for. Professionally so. He can't turn himself into Keith Richards. The blame belongs somewhere else...
Ummmmm...what? You just made my point. You're right, he can't turn himself into Keith Richards. Exactly. If you're a wannabe the blames belongs with the person wanting to be.
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Stoneage
Why blame Jimmy Rip? He's doing what he's paid for. Professionally so. He can't turn himself into Keith Richards. The blame belongs somewhere else...
Ummmmm...what? You just made my point. You're right, he can't turn himself into Keith Richards. Exactly. If you're a wannabe the blames belongs with the person wanting to be.
That's not a point. That is an assumption from your side. You assume he wants to be Keith Richards. You claim he's a Keith Richards wannabe. I don't think anything of that is true.
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Hairball
Maybe Rip was paid by Mick to sort of be a facsimile of Keith...a Keith clone...a Keith-alike...a Keith wannabe...to give the appearance of Keith...sort of a shadow and an echo of the real thing...
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GasLightStreet
Keith's point of view is accurate about Mick's tour:
Keith Richards (August 1988): Mick in Japan
I thought it was very sad that a high percentage of his show was Rolling Stones songs. If you're going to do something on your own, do stuff off the two albums you did. Don't pretend you're a solo artist and have two chicks prancing around doing Tumbling Dice, do you know what I mean? That severely pisses me off.
[timeisonourside.com]
It is interesting, though, to a point. It's too bad Mick didn't play the better (best) songs from PRIMITIVE COOL on the tour. Aside from Throwaway the rest of the PC songs don't make sense. But whatever. Pretty cheesy production nevertheless.
Yes, from today's viewpoint it looks ridiculous to tour solo with a large part of your setlist made up by songs of your band.
But this does not take into account the climate of the times. At least in Europe during 1982, Stones shows were not reviewed all too favourably by the media and even large portions of their fans. I've read reviews that claimed that the band sounded like a pupil's band, ramshackle, some good moments, but uninspired and exhausted all the way or all in all, unprofessional, like a garage band, like a parody of themselves etc. The freshness that came with the 1978 tour suddenly seemed to turn against them. Mainstream stadium rock was taking over. "Dirty Work" was a lowpoint in their recording career.
I think it was exactly this mindframe that Jagger decided to "professionalize" the live act if the Stones would want to have a future at all.
His solo shows and the arrangements of Stones songs were imo a signal to Keith like: "We will do it like this way in future or we won't do anything at all and I will carry on like this!"
Was Jagger right or wrong? I mean, as much as I like the roughness of their 1981/82 tours, can one really imagine stuff like Ruby Tuesday, Paint It Black, 2000 Light Years, Sympathy For The Devil, Midnight Rambler or the like being played with that setup?