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Keith's custom guitars (and other odd ones)
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: October 31, 2005 10:06

in case someone hasn't read it, here (in four parts)
is that old familiar Ted Newman-Jones article about the guitars he's made for Keith -
thank you BrownEyedGirll for scanning it!
when you download it it's large enough to read;
i'll start slowly adding some photos to illustrate it, and i hope others will as well.

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Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: October 31, 2005 10:22

"One six-string is a copy of a Fender Telecaster with Fender Telecaster electronics.
I just made it because I had a beautiful piece of mahogany and a beautiful Fender rosewood neck that just seemed to want to be together."

that's this one, right? if i followed Mathijs right on that Telecaster thread (thank you Mathijs!),
Keith used it in the studio in 77/78 and on the 78 tour, but it hasn't been sighted since then.


- 1978, by Lynn Goldsmith


- both Oakland, july 26th 1978, by Greg Myhra

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: October 31, 2005 10:38

a couple of shots from 73 -
details/insights more than welcome, please and thank you very kindly!


- 1973, by Robert Knight (courtesy BrownEyedGirll)


- 1973 (Hankeroot/Sunshine/Retna, courtesy BrownEyedGirll)

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: October 31, 2005 11:21

"the padouk and birds-eye-maple five-string that I had just made for the New Barbarians"

[peering hard] ... is this the Newman-Jones job? i guess it's just the lighting that makes the finish look different in the three shots.


- 1979, both possibly may 13th (Fort Worth), both by Henry Diltz


- Knebworth Fair, august 11th 1979, by Denis O'Regan
(that's HTW he's playing there, in case anyone's curious ...)



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Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: gwen ()
Date: October 31, 2005 11:30

Wonderful threads, with sssoul.

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: October 31, 2005 11:47

Haha, love those pictures form Knebworth 1979. Cool guitar. And that guitar is decribed in that book I and withsssssoul have.

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: October 31, 2005 12:12

i'm glad if it's grooving you, Gwen -
if the threads are good it's because of our gallant, patient and learned Keith Guitar Connoisseurs (thank you!).
and: which book do you mean, LA Forum?



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Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: jss ()
Date: October 31, 2005 13:12

i second gwen, great photos sssoul... that is an interesting looking one from 1973...

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 31, 2005 13:38

..............

ROCKMAN



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Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: October 31, 2005 14:56

I LOVE it when sssoul starts a thread on Keith because we are always guaranteed some great photos. Most Stones hardcores immediately recognize every photo ans know which tour/concert to place it. So it's always a gas when something brand new comes along. I too had not seen Keith in the 79 Knebworth show. I would have rememeberd that Tux shirt. Thanks sssoul.

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: October 31, 2005 15:49

with sssoul Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> i'm glad if it's grooving you, Gwen -
> if the threads are good it's because of our
> gallant, patient and learned Keith Guitar
> Connoisseurs (thank you!).
> and: which book do you mean, LA Forum?
>
> "Music, to me, is the joy, right?"
> - Keith
>
> -1982
>
>
>
> Edited 1 times. Last edit at 10/31/05 01:33PM by
> with sssoul.


The first twenty years by...NOrman(?) something? A very good book with lots of photographs and detalied map of the guitar Keiths playing in 1979!

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 31, 2005 21:18

Yep, that's the Newman Jones Telecaster. By the way, I did see that Tele once more: at the opening club show of the 1981 tour (what's it called, the Cave or something). There's for example the Seattle 1981 DVD, and on the back a shot of this club show with Keith playing this Tele is pictured.

The 1979 pictures indeed show the Newman Jones guitar as blue printed in the book. The 1973 pictures also is a Newman Jones guitar, with a PAF at the bridge and a P90 in the neck position.

Mathijs

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: October 31, 2005 22:11

>> By the way, I did see that Tele once more: at the opening club show of the 1981 tour <<

smile: thanks as always, Mathijs!
this isn't the shot you mean, but it's from that gig;
Sir Morgan's Cove (in Worcester, Massachusetts) was the venue,
and the Stones were booked as The Cockroaches.


- september 14th/15th, 1981, by Ron Powhall (no doubt courtesy BrownEyedGirll as usual!)

you can read a bit about those gigs on this fine site:
[www.studiowner.com]
(that's just one of several pages about it -
and the whole site is full of great reading - and listening too!)



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Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 1, 2005 11:50

ah, here's a clearer shot - again not the one Mathijs means;
if i've absorbed these guitar lessons well (thanks & thanks to the great teachers!)
it looks like Keith's got a pre-57 Les Paul Junior.


- Sir Morgan's Cove, sep 14th/15th 1981 (courtesy of Gil Markle)



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Re: Newman-Jones guitars and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 1, 2005 11:58

... so what have we here - or rather, what has Keith got here?
from the Pay Pack & Follow cover art:


- 1977, by Elizabeth Milner

Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: November 1, 2005 15:36

Cool shot! May I ask what book it came from?

Re: Newman-Jones guitars & other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 1, 2005 17:02

you mean the sepia one of just Keith?
it's from the Pay Pack & Follow cover art - you know, the John Phillips album:
[www.amazon.com]

if you mean the ones from Sir Morgan's Cove:
i got the upper one from BrownEyedGirll; i'll have to ask her where she found it.
the lower one is from Gil Markle's website (i posted the link up there somewhere).



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Re: ... and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 6, 2005 11:08

okay, sorry if that 1977 Pay Pack & Follow shot shut everyone up!
that guitar has a Newman-Jonesish shape to it, but ... well, moving right along!
here are a few more of Keith's custom jobs, starting with a couple made by Doug Young/Doby.
Blue Lena's site - [members.tripod.com] - describes the one in the first two photos as
"a solidbody double-cutaway with bird's-eye maple body & fingerboard, one-piece maple neck, gold in color, made by Doug Young/Doby Guitars".


- 1982, by Ebet Roberts (courtesy of timeisonourside.com)


- 1982 too i reckon, by Ebet Roberts (courtesy of BrownEyedGirll)

then there's this "Doby solidbody single-cutaway of curly maple [with] ebony fingerboard, [which] was a gift to Keith & Patti from Doug Young".
seems like it's meant to be vaguely reminiscent of Keith's mid-70s Zemaitis; i wonder if he's used it for anything but photo sessions ...


- 1983, by Ebet Roberts (courtesy of BrownEyedGirll)

Re: ... and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 6, 2005 11:28

while i'm at it ... am i losing my marbles, or does that golden double-cutaway buddy resemble this dark-red one?
which in turn looks both like and unlike a Gibson LP Special -
and as usual i'd love to hear anything you kind patient learned Guitar Connoisseurs can tell us about it, please and thank you kindly ...


- Turin, july 11th or 12th 1982, by Denis O'Regan


- 1982, also by Denis O'Regan




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Re: Newman-Jones guitars ... and other oddities
Posted by: KYRIAKOS ()
Date: November 6, 2005 12:40

A wider and longer neck maybe? More frets.

Re: Newman-Jones guitars ... and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 6, 2005 12:49

... maybe i should try to say that more clearly:
is the gold Doug Young/Doby built to similar specifications as that dark-red LP Special or whatever it is?




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Re: Newman-Jones guitars
Posted by: browneyedgirl ()
Date: November 6, 2005 20:52

Just a quick note on the Morgan's Cove shot above - I found it at Ian McLagan's site - [www.macspages.com]

Re: Newman-Jones guitars ... and other oddities
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: November 6, 2005 20:59

Oh withsssoul how I'd love to browse through your Photobucket account. Can't you open it up?

Re: Newman-Jones guitars ... and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 6, 2005 21:11

smile: i appreciate the appreciation, but it's the commentary from the Esteemed Guitar Experts that makes these threads rock.
or as my grandmother taught me: go slow and get 'em all.
i will keep sharing stuff, i promise.



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Re: Newman-Jones guitars ... and other oddities
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: November 7, 2005 02:57

Aha! Cerwin-Vega cabinets! The 2 photos from the Sir Morgan's Cove gig
posted by with ssoul show them playing Boogies throgh Cerwin-Vega cabinets.
A while ago, I posted that they used Electro-Voice speakers with Boogie heads
during the first few gigs of the tour, and I said I remember having a brouchure
listing the equipment (I remember it was on bright pink paper). Anyway, I was
mistaken as it was Cerwin-Vega cabinets that were used. Indeed, the studioowner
web site has a few photos of them rehearsing with this same setup.
They may have used this setup for the first few gigs and then switched
to Boogie cabinets, or probably these were just used for rehearsals and this
one-off gig.

Re: ... and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 8, 2005 14:59

we all know Keith's gone-but-not-forgotten Zemaitis so well that i didn't bother posting any photos of it,
but i just came across one that i find real interesting - i associate that guitar so much with 75/76 that it surprised me to see it in 78.


- 1978, courtesy of timeisonourside.com

this guitar is said to have perished in a fire, and it's often stated that it was a fire at Redlands -
but maybe it's more likely that it happened in the september 78 fire at the house Keith was renting in LA?
here's a quote about that from Mark Paytress's book The Rolling Stones Off the Record:

SEPTEMBER 1978
Keith's domestic situation is hardly any more secure when the Hollywood house he has been renting in Laurel Canyon burns down.
Keith: "I'm in the bedroom with the flavour of the month, my girlfriend of the hour. I wake up and the room's full of smoke.
I open the door to the bedroom and I'm looking at a fireball rushing down the corridor towards the oxygen ... and me!
There's the two of us stark naked. Half the house is already destroyed, the roof is falling in on us but we've managed to get through -
with a few burns here and there - to the swimming pool ... Stark @#$%& bollock naked with this blonde, bless her heart,
good girl, solid gold, saying to me: 'Do something.' And I said: 'What do you want me to do - piss on it?'"

but i digress. :E
it seems like Keith must not have used the Zemaitis much on the 78 tour -
otherwise i think i'd have seen more photos of it - so does anyone know what he did use it for then? and/or what really happened to it, and when?



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Re: ... and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 8, 2005 21:22

so i watched the 78 Fort Worth footage, and incomplete as it is, Ronnie's using that guitar there only in two numbers:
When the Whip Comes Down (which this photo obviously isn't) and Beast of Burden (ditto) -
so ... it's a mystery. have some popcorn.



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Re: Newman-Jones guitars ... and other oddities
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: November 9, 2005 01:11

The brown Zemaitis was only used on Brown Sugar for the '78 tour.
I remeber him bringing it out at Anaheim for that number only.
All other 5-string stuff was Telecasters. The video from New orleans
shows the same. Plus boots from that tour, yuo can really tell the difference in tone. Same goes for that photo. Brown Sugar was the next to last number,
and judging from the sweat, no capo, and Ronnie using his Zemaitis, it's
Brown Sugar. I'm pretty sure that fire in which this Zemaitis was lost
was here in LA, as I don't recall it on any New Barbarian shows,
and rehearsals for that tour were done mostly out here in LA, early to mid 1979.
I've played a few hand-made Zemaitis guitars, and they're absolutely stunning.
Really incredible.



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Re: ... and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 9, 2005 08:30

thank you kindly, TomK! i'm glad you've had a chance to play a few Zemaitis guitars -
it sure seems like they live up to their beautiful looks.



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Re: ... and other oddities
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 19, 2005 13:36

can any of you fine learned patient Keith Guitar Connoisseurs tell us anything about this one, please and thank you very kindly?


- 1975, by Bob Gruen

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