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KevinM
You Don't Have To Mean It
Thief In The Night
Victor Hugo
Can't Cut The Mustard
You Win Again
Had It With You
Just Because 1&2
The Dog
Dog Shit
etc.
Undercover is a decent album, especially capping off a 20+yr run. She Was Hot & Undercover of the Night are as good as anything on Tattoo You, imho, save for Hang Fire.
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KevinM
You Don't Have To Mean It
Thief In The Night
Victor Hugo
Can't Cut The Mustard
You Win Again
Had It With You
Just Because 1&2
The Dog
Dog Shit
etc.
Undercover is a decent album, especially capping off a 20+yr run. She Was Hot & Undercover of the Night are as good as anything on Tattoo You, imho, save for Hang Fire.
Can't Cut The Mustard is Had It With You.
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Taylor1
Songs like Out of Tears, She Was Hot, One Hit
o the Body,Slipping Away, Mixed Emotions,Out of Control,Anybody Seen My Baby, Too Tight , One Hit to the Body, Blinded By Rainbows are all great
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KevinM
You Don't Have To Mean It
Thief In The Night
Victor Hugo
Can't Cut The Mustard
You Win Again
Had It With You
Just Because 1&2
The Dog
Dog Shit
etc.
Undercover is a decent album, especially capping off a 20+yr run. She Was Hot & Undercover of the Night are as good as anything on Tattoo You, imho, save for Hang Fire.
Can't Cut The Mustard is Had It With You.
Thanks for the info DandelionPowderman. After Tattoo You, my knowledge of their catalog is pretty limited & murky. I wish there was a searchable spreadsheet that had every song (especially multiple titles for the same track) listed, i.e., 'I Ain't Lying' & 'I'm Not Signifying' etc.
EDIT: while CCTM & HIWY are the same instrumental track, they're 2 different lead vocalists (Keef vs. Mick) respectively & different lyrics, kinda like Good Time Women & Tumbling Dice (I much prefer the former).
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Taylor1
Songs like Out of Tears, She Was Hot, One Hit
o the Body,Slipping Away, Mixed Emotions,Out of Control,Anybody Seen My Baby, Too Tight , One Hit to the Body, Blinded By Rainbows are all great
Funny that all but one on your list were done live. Funny also, all of these except that same one are on my list of the "few" songs that could make one good album.
Don't think I've ever heard Too Tight.
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DandelionPowderman
Blinded By Rainbows ... never done live.
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KevinM
I couldn't even name 1 song after early '80s McCartney, it's just fluff & crap...feel free to elaborate either way if you know better.
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Taylor1
Voodoo Lounge and Bridges to Babylon are full of excellent songs
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Taylor1
Voodoo Lounge and Bridges toBabylon are full of excellent songs
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24FPS
Though not an A-Plus album, like Sticky Fingers, I think there are some great B-Plus, and a couple A-minus cuts on Steel Wheels. I remember hearing Slipping Away and thinking, yep, that's it, the final song that sums it all up beautifully. The after 1990 band accomplished nothing new in the studio. All their worthwhile Post Wyman albums and singles, excluding Blue and Lonesome, could easily fit onto a single LP.
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KevinM
I couldn't even name 1 song after early '80s McCartney, it's just fluff & crap...feel free to elaborate either way if you know better.
I have to say I disagree strongly.
It seems to me that Paul McCartney suffers from the same prejudice the Stones suffer from. In my opinion people who say the Stones haven't put out a good song since "Tattoo You" just haven't been listening. They're judging the whole output based on a small handful of singles they've heard once or twice on the radio or or once on tinny computer speakers under florescent lights in the middle of a workday - music best appreciated with a joint and a beer with the lights turned down low and the music turned up loud.
Same thing with McCartney. People heard a new single from Paul on the radio in the '80's and they found it insipid, so they think that's representative of his entire output since. (To be fair, Paul does sometimes choose one of his weaker tracks for singles, and actually has some of his best stuff as bonus tracks and b-sides.)
Here are a few post-80's Paul McCartney songs that I personally think are worthwhile listening. There are more, but in my opinion this is a decent sample of what I consider to be his best work from this era. I'd be curious to hear your opinions.
Great Day
Nothing Too Much Just Out Of Sight
Nothing For Free
Road
Nod Your Head
Struggle
Really Love You
Jenny Wren
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KevinM
Thanks for the recommendations, I'm always open to "new" songs/albums, especially from artists/bands I love. I hope to listen to them this week. Macca is next on my uber-deep dive of artists, an ongoing work in progress, lifetime project. If you haven't already, check out YT poster SirPaulRu, his homepage & especially the link below:
Paul McCartney - 250 bootlegs. (SirPaulRu YT poster)
...just for fun:
P.McCartney - Beware My Love w/**John Bonham** (Flac Audio) HD Sound
P.McCartney - My Carnival ( Party Mix)
Macca - Spies Like Us (party mix)
The Stones are & should be scrutinized like their 60s/70s fellow rockers, right or wrong, however they've fared well vs. the others, valid point. I've tried several times to get post '83 LP's & it hasn't "clicked", yet. It took me until 2018 just to somewhat like some of the Dirty Work/Steel Wheels Outtakes/Demos/Sessions. I'd really like to be able to like the later stuff, maybe it'll just take more time.
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KevinM
Thanks for the recommendations, I'm always open to "new" songs/albums, especially from artists/bands I love. I hope to listen to them this week. Macca is next on my uber-deep dive of artists, an ongoing work in progress, lifetime project. If you haven't already, check out YT poster SirPaulRu, his homepage & especially the link below:
Paul McCartney - 250 bootlegs. (SirPaulRu YT poster)
...just for fun:
P.McCartney - Beware My Love w/**John Bonham** (Flac Audio) HD Sound
P.McCartney - My Carnival ( Party Mix)
Macca - Spies Like Us (party mix)
The Stones are & should be scrutinized like their 60s/70s fellow rockers, right or wrong, however they've fared well vs. the others, valid point. I've tried several times to get post '83 LP's & it hasn't "clicked", yet. It took me until 2018 just to somewhat like some of the Dirty Work/Steel Wheels Outtakes/Demos/Sessions. I'd really like to be able to like the later stuff, maybe it'll just take more time.
Holy crap, thanks. That archive is incredible. I'm always much more interested in McCartney's deep tracks and b-sides than the singles and the hits. Everyone knows he can write pop songs and complex melodies, but I get just as much enjoyment from him grinding on a couple of chords for long sloppy jam.
I do hope you can find some of the later Stones stuff enjoyable. I think there's a lot of great songs on those albums. Keep working at it!
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WorriedAboutYou
For me they peaked with Jumpin' Jack Flash - beyond that they lost the magic that Brian bought to the band. Never did like Taylor's playing and the "big four" albums mostly overrated compared to the classics from the Brian era.
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Taylor1
Voodoo Lounge and Bridges to Babylon are full of excellent songs
I agree ... I'd put Bigger Bang in the category of LP w/ some excellent songs too.
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WorriedAboutYou
For me they peaked with Jumpin' Jack Flash - beyond that they lost the magic that Brian bought to the band. Never did like Taylor's playing and the "big four" albums mostly overrated compared to the classics from the Brian era.
But your name is from the Ronnie Wood era.......
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GasLightStreet
I've never been able to talk to Mick and ask him, "If you've done all this work to make these albums, how come you basically ignore them with the live shows?"
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GasLightStreet
VOODOO easily could've been better by leaving the weak and bad songs off.
Same thing with BRIDGES with less and BANG with less.
I find things that are said about these "modern" Stones albums that are difficult to believe, like this:
We went through a whole thing: Let's make 11, 12 tracks, the normal length of an album. When we did that, there was always a great moan from somebody, You can't take that off. So it went back to 15. Well, why not? We haven't put a new record out since '89. It's five years, for Chrissake. So there's 15 on there and everybody's happy.
- Keith Richards, 1994
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That's a good example of rolling over and not sticking to quality. VL easily could've been better at 11 or 12 tracks. Lose off Sparks Will Fly, New Faces, Sweethearts Together, Blinded By Rainbows and Mean Disposition and put on The Storm and Jump On Top Of Me and now it's a much better album.
Or with BANG, how Virgin thought it was too long and Mick had the nerve to compare it to EXILE:
The record company felt (the album) was too long. But I said, What's the favorite Rolling Stones album of all time? - Well, Exile On Main Street. - There, you see? Exile. And how long is that? - It's over an hour. - And the problem is? - Uh, nothing.
- Mick Jagger, July 2005
It's been eight years (since Bridges to Babylon). At sixteen songs, that's just two a year.
- Keith Richards, September 2005
[timeisonourside.com]
SIXTEEN SONGS on that album. That's ridiculous. Remove Streets Of Love, ONNYA, Sweet Neo Con and Infamy and it's a much better album. That's 12 songs. I like Look What The Cat and Driving Too Fast. Under The Radar is better than some songs on BANG but it makes sense why it didn't get included. Don't Wanna Go Home is pretty bad.
So all these time gaps are no reason to put more songs on, as Keith used as a lame example - it degrades the quality of the album. Just as the 3 of the 4 new tracks on FORTY LICKS makes disc 2 sound pointless - there are all these (mostly) classic tracks and three sound out of place (Don't Stop is clearly the best of the 4 and, to my ears, fits in with the rest of the hit tracks). They could've easily released Don't Stop as an EP with the other 3 tracks and had put Heartbreaker, She's So Cold and Waiting On A Friend on instead.
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GasLightStreet
I've never been able to talk to Mick and ask him, "If you've done all this work to make these albums, how come you basically ignore them with the live shows?"
Someone has asked him exactly that. I don't recall the details, but he said that the audiences lose interest when they play new tracks. For a performing artist, especially the front man of a band, losing the audience has to be their worst nightmare. And what can the band do about it? There's no way they could restrict ticket sales to "true fans only", even if they wanted to.