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Chris Fountain
My State of Florida has lifted all restrictions as of Friday. I'm still practicing safe guidelines. Also I refuse to go to a Diner any time soon.
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longlongwinter
200k is a lot yes but they label so many deaths with 'Covid' even if they had cancer or many other deadly illnesses. The flu and many other things cause a lot of death yearly yet we never shut down everything for them. Even the CDC just released survival rates for those infected with Covid in the US- it's 99.5% for all under 70 and 94.5% for those over 70. You have a better chance dying of cancer or a heart attack. Wake up, you're being played
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MisterDDDD
Sorry to see Clapton join Van in this..
Music Legends Eric Clapton, Van Morrison Team for Anti-Lockdown Single ‘Stand and Deliver
Music legends Van Morrison and Eric Clapton have announced a new single, “Stand and Deliver,” in support of Morrison’s Save Live Music campaign. The blues track was written by Morrison and is performed by Clapton.
Morrison, best known for songs like “Brown Eyed Girl,” “Domino” and “Wild Night,” as well as seminal albums “Moondance” and “Astral Weeks,” released three songs protesting the U.K. lockdown over September and October, titled “Born To Be Free,” “As I Walked Out” and “No More Lockdown.”
Proceeds from “Stand and Deliver” will go to the Morrison’s Lockdown Financial Hardship Fund, which helps musicians facing difficulties as a result of the coronavirus and resulting lockdown measures.
Clapton — the only three-time inductee to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame — called the dearth of live events due to lockdown restrictions “deeply upsetting.”
“There are many of us who support Van and his endeavors to save live music; he is an inspiration,” Clapton said. “We must stand up and be counted because we need to find a way out of this mess. The alternative is not worth thinking about. Live music might never recover.”
[variety.com]
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windmelody
As long as they are working sensibly I am not sorry but very glad to read this. Live music is one of the greatest gifts of mankind and needs to saved....
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As long as they are working sensibly I am not sorry but very glad to read this. Live music is one of the greatest gifts of mankind and needs to saved....
Agree! Living like hermits is basically being dead anyway.
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As long as they are working sensibly I am not sorry but very glad to read this. Live music is one of the greatest gifts of mankind and needs to saved....
Agree! Living like hermits is basically being dead anyway.
When you are dead, let us know if its the same. In 6 months things will be better hopefully. If the choice is going out catching it and dying in the next 45 days or being careful, staying in through the winter and being able to live a normal life after the winter I would surely choose the latter.
Life music does need to be saved and supported but allowing packed indoor venues and spreading a virus that kills people is just foolish IMHO. If Van or Clapton catch Covid at a show there is a high probability they will be doing a collaboration with John Prine, Toots Hibbart, Ellis Marsalis, Adam Schlesinger who are artists I have seen who died of Covid.
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windmelody
Dear Sir, I am not dead yet, and I did not write that one should allow packed indoor venues. Being careful and respectful is extremely important, saving lives is as important, avoiding hysteria is important as well.
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Dear Sir, I am not dead yet, and I did not write that one should allow packed indoor venues. Being careful and respectful is extremely important, saving lives is as important, avoiding hysteria is important as well.
You didn't and it wasn't directed at you. Have you caught it? If you have not you lack the perspective of personal experience. Avoiding hysteria is important but when avoiding hysteria is the analogy of dismissing this pandemic as a real public health crisis then maybe some hysteria is necessary. Thousands of preventable deaths per day are happening in places where people are disregarding the public health recommendations and many survivors have long term or permanent damage to their health.
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MisterDDDD
Yeah, he's taking a beating on social media, as Van did.
All for efforts to "save live music", but so many other ways to help that cause rather than protesting lockdowns etc.
Especially short sighted at this stage of the pandemic with a vaccine on the horizon.
Just plain stupid, and will negatively affect their career and legacy permanently.
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Hairball
I'll always appreciate Eric and Van's music just as I always have in the past - most of it anyways.
But some of us are able to separate their idiocy and their art, while evidently others aren't able to.
When I hear Clapton shredding a classic blues lick will I suddenly think of his ignorant stance on corona restrictions?
Of course not, but I might think of the funny "Pat Boone of blues guitar" label he was given on twitter lol.
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MisterDDDD
Yeah, he's taking a beating on social media, as Van did.
All for efforts to "save live music", but so many other ways to help that cause rather than protesting lockdowns etc.
Especially short sighted at this stage of the pandemic with a vaccine on the horizon.
Just plain stupid, and will negatively affect their career and legacy permanently.
Why so much negativity? If you are too scared of this whole thing, fine, stay home, but don't put down others in their struggle to go ahead and put some perspective to it.
I can't see either Vans or Erics legacy being affected. Why would it? Because some cynical, short sighted fans on a Stones forum say so?
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bleedingman
The media is drudging up Clapton's unfortunate "Keep England White" remarks from long ago, as if that has anything to do with his apparent blasphemous alliance with Morrison. He's trying to help out unemployed music people while trying to prevent the death of live music but somehow that's a bad thing and Clapton needs to be canceled for bucking the tide. My own feeling, unpopular as it is in these parts, is open things up strategically and thoughtfully. But this has gone on far too long. And I for one won't be taking any vaccine.
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As long as they are working sensibly I am not sorry but very glad to read this. Live music is one of the greatest gifts of mankind and needs to saved....
Agree! Living like hermits is basically being dead anyway.
When you are dead, let us know if its the same. In 6 months things will be better hopefully. If the choice is going out catching it and dying in the next 45 days or being careful, staying in through the winter and being able to live a normal life after the winter I would surely choose the latter.
Life music does need to be saved and supported but allowing packed indoor venues and spreading a virus that kills people is just foolish IMHO. If Van or Clapton catch Covid at a show there is a high probability they will be doing a collaboration with John Prine, Toots Hibbart, Ellis Marsalis, Adam Schlesinger who are artists I have seen who died of Covid.
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The media is drudging up Clapton's unfortunate "Keep England White" remarks from long ago,
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The media is drudging up Clapton's unfortunate "Keep England White" remarks from long ago,
“Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands … So where are you? Well wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country … I don’t want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white … The black wogs and coons and Arabs and f*cking Jamaicans don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man … This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for f*ck’s sake? … Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!”
Unfortunate...
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RisingStone
I am an avid fan of Clapton — have seen him more than 100 times for over forty-five years. That does not mean I accept everything he does or says. The infamous racial rant and support for Enoch Powell being one example, obviously.
However, in regard to his derogatory remarks above, which have been quoted a number of times and widespread through the internet, I have been intrigued by one persistent question that has to be answered — whose credit is the transcription of this for?
It would be safe to assume that, to write down a statement of this length as exactly spoken on stage as possible, the transcriber surely needs the audio-recorded document made by either a member of the touring team or someone among the audience. *Strangely enough, I’ve never come across the existence of a live tape or a vinyl/CD bootleg from that night (Odeon Theatre, Birmingham, August 5, 1976). Under such circumstances, I can’t help but wonder who did the transcribing job and how.
There is no doubt that Clapton made a racial remark and announced a support for Enoch Powell there and then — even he admits that albeit in an ambiguous manner (e.g. “I was a semi-racist.”). However, to deal with such a sensitive matter as this case, evidence of recorded form is essential for an exact copy of what was articulated on the site. If in case the transcriber did the job without the recorded document, in what way did he or she manage to do it?
I have searched and googled the matter for a number of years, but so far failed to find the origin of the primary source, who typed out the notorious quote in the first place and where the responsibility for the wording of this statement lies. I know the music paper Sounds gave it a sizable coverage back then although I haven’t obtained the original copy.
If anybody has information as regards above, I would be grateful for the enlightenment.
As for his support for the anti-lockdown...well, I said in the beginning, I don’t accept everything he does or says.
*Marc Roberty’s Book, Eric Clapton Day By Day: The Early Years, 1963-1982, publishes the setlist of the day, which may imply the existence of a live tape circulated in the closed circle.
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MisterDDDD
Never an avid fan, so not so hard for me to accept the reality of his comments.
I believe you likely are putting up much more of a dispute over them than he ever has. He has acknowledged it, apologized for it, and tried to explain/rationalize it even.
He claims he was a different person then, and was deep in the throws of his alcoholism.
Fine by me, people and times change, not going to hold it against him, but when you take another public stance that's offensive and contrary to most, well.. people are going to add them together.
A shame, really.
Not seen the "Life In Twelve Bars" doc about him before, but looks good.
In it he acknowledges the incident(s),
Eric Clapton opens up – even on his bizarre racist period
Lili Zanuck’s documentary doesn’t shy away from the musician’s darkest days
[www.irishtimes.com]