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Love Van’s music but this campaign seems a bit reckless and self serving - especially given the average age of his fans.
Well he can't force anyone to go. But still, shouldn't people have their own choice? Those that don't want to be at risk can still stay home.
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How refreshing to see a famous person echo what many around the world feel. Good for him. I hope more come out and agree. Covid is way overblown by the panic porn media.
I'm on his side... and yours!
I hope God is on your side too. Science and reality is not.
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I was a covid19 positive case, I guess he is on my side, seems like science & reality were too. As longglongwinter states, "overblown"!
No offense, but advice from someone who got the virus, likely by being unsafe in one form or another in the first place, is advice I'll respectfully decline.
This isn't unknown or overblown (ask the 180k+ people who have died in the US alone, or don't.. cause ya know, they're dead) at this point.
Large gatherings become super spreader events and people die. Period.
People always die, how many by the flu each year? We haven't shut down the world before. So we're to care about the ones now, but not the previous deaths?
I was a Covid-19 case. Unfortunately you seem to have escaped with only dementia. You didn't get a good enough case.
Insults instead of addressing the point. Typical...
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How refreshing to see a famous person echo what many around the world feel. Good for him. I hope more come out and agree. Covid is way overblown by the panic porn media.
I'm on his side... and yours!
I hope God is on your side too. Science and reality is not.
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I was a covid19 positive case, I guess he is on my side, seems like science & reality were too. As longglongwinter states, "overblown"!
No offense, but advice from someone who got the virus, likely by being unsafe in one form or another in the first place, is advice I'll respectfully decline.
This isn't unknown or overblown (ask the 180k+ people who have died in the US alone, or don't.. cause ya know, they're dead) at this point.
Large gatherings become super spreader events and people die. Period.
People always die, how many by the flu each year? We haven't shut down the world before. So we're to care about the ones now, but not the previous deaths?
I was a Covid-19 case. Unfortunately you seem to have escaped with only dementia. You didn't get a good enough case.
Insults instead of addressing the point. Typical...
So, what's your point? Covid-19 is like the flu and 180,000 lives are not important? Or is it people should have the right to infect others because some people are selfish?
I don't actually believe you had Covid-19 and you are just trying to sh!t up.
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longlongwinter
How refreshing to see a famous person echo what many around the world feel. Good for him. I hope more come out and agree. Covid is way overblown by the panic porn media.
I'm on his side... and yours!
I hope God is on your side too. Science and reality is not.
- Doxa
I was a covid19 positive case, I guess he is on my side, seems like science & reality were too. As longglongwinter states, "overblown"!
No offense, but advice from someone who got the virus, likely by being unsafe in one form or another in the first place, is advice I'll respectfully decline.
This isn't unknown or overblown (ask the 180k+ people who have died in the US alone, or don't.. cause ya know, they're dead) at this point.
Large gatherings become super spreader events and people die. Period.
People always die, how many by the flu each year? We haven't shut down the world before. So we're to care about the ones now, but not the previous deaths?
I was a Covid-19 case. Unfortunately you seem to have escaped with only dementia. You didn't get a good enough case.
Insults instead of addressing the point. Typical...
So, what's your point? Covid-19 is like the flu and 180,000 lives are not important? Or is it people should have the right to infect others because some people are selfish?
I don't actually believe you had Covid-19 and you are just trying to sh!t up.
Obviously not the point, try reading. More than that died from the "flu" over the past 4 years. Why didn't we lock everyone down before covid? ... that's the point. How many die from car crashes? We don't shut down driving. Lockdown affects much more than 180,000 lives, more like billions, of which we have no clue what this will do to the global economy and the future.
Some have a different opinion of yours when it comes to handling of this, no need to get angry over it. Furthermore it doesn't mean we are happy or ignorant that there have been a lot of deaths.
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I think the point of concern about COVID-19 is how contagious it is . Do you think it's fair if your beliefs are different than the global medical community ? and you just want to carry on as if it's like the typical flu ? For which there is a yearly vaccine . For which COVID-19 there is no known antibody yet . Seems like a big difference to me .
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I think the point of concern about COVID-19 is how contagious it is . Do you think it's fair if your beliefs are different than the global medical community ? and you just want to carry on as if it's like the typical flu ? For which there is a yearly vaccine . For which COVID-19 there is no known antibody yet . Seems like a big difference to me .
All good points. Still, despite the numbers, look at the total cases and it is easy to see that the vast majority have mild symptoms. Any new flu strain will not have a vaccine to cover it until it is discovered, and most take just as much time to figure out.
It is not a typical flu, no doubt, but I still agree w/ LongLongWhile, to us it is far overblown in the media and most are reacting to that sensationalism that has not been given to previous flu viruses.
The problem is, when will it end? Will there be a covid 20? 21? Are you prepared to live in isolation if we have another, for the next 5 years? Or now that they see the hype they got for this, its highly possible they will start to exaggerate any new flu strain and call for isolation because some have died.
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Does Van drive a van ????
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I think the point of concern about COVID-19 is how contagious it is . Do you think it's fair if your beliefs are different than the global medical community ? and you just want to carry on as if it's like the typical flu ? For which there is a yearly vaccine . For which COVID-19 there is no known antibody yet . Seems like a big difference to me .
All good points. Still, despite the numbers, look at the total cases and it is easy to see that the vast majority have mild symptoms. Any new flu strain will not have a vaccine to cover it until it is discovered, and most take just as much time to figure out.
It is not a typical flu, no doubt, but I still agree w/ LongLongWhile, to us it is far overblown in the media and most are reacting to that sensationalism that has not been given to previous flu viruses.
The problem is, when will it end? Will there be a covid 20? 21? Are you prepared to live in isolation if we have another, for the next 5 years? Or now that they see the hype they got for this, its highly possible they will start to exaggerate any new flu strain and call for isolation because some have died.
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Am I prepared to die from it is kind of a loaded question. But seeing that I go into hospitals, treatment centers and homeless shelters as part of my job, I guess that means yes I am.
I do it because it's my job and I believe the alternative -- to withhold services -- would cause more harm to people, not to mention the damage it would cause to my principals.
If what were doing is important, then we mask up and do it. Every man should be prepared to die anyway.
If Van believes that making music is that important, I respect him.
Sure, there are people who want to lock down, but to do that you are expecting others to take risks for you.
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Am I prepared to die from it is kind of a loaded question. But seeing that I go into hospitals, treatment centers and homeless shelters as part of my job, I guess that means yes I am.
I do it because it's my job and I believe the alternative -- to withhold services -- would cause more harm to people, not to mention the damage it would cause to my principals.
If what were doing is important, then we mask up and do it. Every man should be prepared to die anyway.
If Van believes that making music is that important, I respect him.
Sure, there are people who want to lock down, but to do that you are expecting others to take risks for you.
Honestly, I can respect your approach and know others who are front line workers doing jobs critical for society at large. I have zero respect or empathy for those who dismiss the epidemic as a "flu" and equate the two. You mask up, take precautions because your life depends on it. More often than not those who have the other viewpoint disregard precautions and have no concerns about spreading the virus to others since they do not believe it is real.
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Am I prepared to die from it is kind of a loaded question. But seeing that I go into hospitals, treatment centers and homeless shelters as part of my job, I guess that means yes I am.
I do it because it's my job and I believe the alternative -- to withhold services -- would cause more harm to people, not to mention the damage it would cause to my principals.
If what were doing is important, then we mask up and do it. Every man should be prepared to die anyway.
If Van believes that making music is that important, I respect him.
Sure, there are people who want to lock down, but to do that you are expecting others to take risks for you.
Honestly, I can respect your approach and know others who are front line workers doing jobs critical for society at large. I have zero respect or empathy for those who dismiss the epidemic as a "flu" and equate the two. You mask up, take precautions because your life depends on it. More often than not those who have the other viewpoint disregard precautions and have no concerns about spreading the virus to others since they do not believe it is real.
You're so far away from understanding what Van and others are saying, it may not be worth the effort but anyway ... because we believe this is far overblown does NOT mean we're dismissing it or saying don't be safe. But you can't shut down businesses, decisions such as letting Walmart stay open, and closing all mom/pop shops is so insane and nonsensical ... why can't people be as safe in other stores as in walmart. And to top it off, now that you basically put so many stores, restaurants etc. on the verge of bankruptcy, now you start giving out insane government payouts to make up for it! No one has a clue how this is going to affect things long term.
Again, you pick out the covid due to the sensationalism, but still, there are people dying of flu, car crashes, murder, and so on -- why did it take this to start living like Howard Hughes did? Why not stay inside the rest of your life?
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Sir Ivan is a very religious man. He believes in faith foremost. Which means he dismisses reason to a point. Listen to his, especially latter day, lyrics and you would understand.
In Sir Ivan's case I tend to overlook this agenda because he is such a great artist and poet. And great artists are sometimes flawed. Like the rest of us...
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Sir Ivan is a very religious man. He believes in faith foremost. Which means he dismisses reason to a point. Listen to his, especially latter day, lyrics and you would understand.
In Sir Ivan's case I tend to overlook this agenda because he is such a great artist and poet. And great artists are sometimes flawed. Like the rest of us...
Many doctors are people of faith--it doesn't mean dismissing reason and science. They can coexist quite happily.
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Is that a knighting or a beheading? And what is Bill Clinton looking at?
The executioner looks pretty distracted there.
Imagine Keef down on his knees like that. No wonder that didn't happen.
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Is that a knighting or a beheading? And what is Bill Clinton looking at?
The executioner looks pretty distracted there.
Imagine Keef down on his knees like that. No wonder that didn't happen.
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Take a break from the ganja!
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Is that a knighting or a beheading? And what is Bill Clinton looking at?
The executioner looks pretty distracted there.
Imagine Keef down on his knees like that. No wonder that didn't happen.
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Sir Ivan is a very religious man. He believes in faith foremost. Which means he dismisses reason to a point. Listen to his, especially latter day, lyrics and you would understand.
In Sir Ivan's case I tend to overlook this agenda because he is such a great artist and poet. And great artists are sometimes flawed. Like the rest of us...