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Sounds like a science fiction/horror movie, but that's the reality we're living in until this virus is neutralized some how....
It's a big fuss about nothing, today we hear that in Britain 1 in 14 have had covid 19, get the calculator out, 70 million Britons divided by 14 = 5 million. Divide the 46 thousand deaths by 5 million who have had the virus, gives you a death rate of 0.0092
This is the new math. 46,000 deaths = nothing. Certainly nothing worth the inconvenience of a mask, right?
Absolutely it's not nothing, and as you know full well, that 46000 figure is officially 29000,( no record of normal flu deaths ) but 29000 is still high, but with lockdown lifted and the summer season packed with holiday makers the death toll in many busy towns for instance is zero right now.
The point i make is that the virus is very weak at this stage and if you are unfortunate enough to test positive you have a 0.0092 chance of dying from it.
I would suggest that a young healthy individual will be ok to attend a concert next year with a good face mask.
I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show as statistics are obviously blanket based and the elderly are in a much more vulnerable situation.
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Sounds like a science fiction/horror movie, but that's the reality we're living in until this virus is neutralized some how....
It's a big fuss about nothing, today we hear that in Britain 1 in 14 have had covid 19, get the calculator out, 70 million Britons divided by 14 = 5 million. Divide the 46 thousand deaths by 5 million who have had the virus, gives you a death rate of 0.0092
This is the new math. 46,000 deaths = nothing. Certainly nothing worth the inconvenience of a mask, right?
Absolutely it's not nothing, and as you know full well, that 46000 figure is officially 29000,( no record of normal flu deaths ) but 29000 is still high, but with lockdown lifted and the summer season packed with holiday makers the death toll in many busy towns for instance is zero right now.
The point i make is that the virus is very weak at this stage and if you are unfortunate enough to test positive you have a 0.0092 chance of dying from it.
I would suggest that a young healthy individual will be ok to attend a concert next year with a good face mask.
I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show as statistics are obviously blanket based and the elderly are in a much more vulnerable situation.
The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
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Sounds like a science fiction/horror movie, but that's the reality we're living in until this virus is neutralized some how....
It's a big fuss about nothing, today we hear that in Britain 1 in 14 have had covid 19, get the calculator out, 70 million Britons divided by 14 = 5 million. Divide the 46 thousand deaths by 5 million who have had the virus, gives you a death rate of 0.0092
This is the new math. 46,000 deaths = nothing. Certainly nothing worth the inconvenience of a mask, right?
Absolutely it's not nothing, and as you know full well, that 46000 figure is officially 29000,( no record of normal flu deaths ) but 29000 is still high, but with lockdown lifted and the summer season packed with holiday makers the death toll in many busy towns for instance is zero right now.
The point i make is that the virus is very weak at this stage and if you are unfortunate enough to test positive you have a 0.0092 chance of dying from it.
I would suggest that a young healthy individual will be ok to attend a concert next year with a good face mask.
I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show as statistics are obviously blanket based and the elderly are in a much more vulnerable situation.
The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
The problem with the 46,100 statistic is that these are people who died with the virus; not necessarily of Covid-19. A 96-year-old passes-away due to age, yet because they’d contracted the virus, it’s automatically registered as the ‘cause-of-death’
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I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show
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I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show
But you're saying it's OK for them to perform in front of thousands?
By most accounts, the Stones are considered "elderly", and when you consider their past serious health issues...the list goes on and on....
Yet previously you stated "I'm sure that they can take a chance on doing some modest venues next year before it's too late for them, if they want to of course".
Without knowing what the future holds with this pandemic, and given the Stones age and health issues, how can you be so sure this is a good idea?
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The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
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The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
The problem with that figure of 46,100 is that it is total nonsense.
On the radio yesterday I heard someone from National Health England admit that a woman who had died of a stroke is amongst those 46,100 Covid deaths because she had previously tested positive for it. She made a complete recovery from Covid19, and died from the stroke nearly a month later.
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The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
The problem with that figure of 46,100 is that it is total nonsense.
On the radio yesterday I heard someone from National Health England admit that a woman who had died of a stroke is amongst those 46,100 Covid deaths because she had previously tested positive for it. She made a complete recovery from Covid19, and died from the stroke nearly a month later.
The government have been desperate to increase the numbers of covid deaths from the start, figures have been manipulated to justify the lockdowns for some reason, I know of old people in their 80s & 90's who were dying prior to Covid 19 that tested positive and so went down as a covid 19 death. People with end stage kidney disease and terminal cancer testing positive and so going down as a covid 19 death, plus positive tests have been found to be inaccurate in many instances.
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The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
The problem with that figure of 46,100 is that it is total nonsense.
On the radio yesterday I heard someone from National Health England admit that a woman who had died of a stroke is amongst those 46,100 Covid deaths because she had previously tested positive for it. She made a complete recovery from Covid19, and died from the stroke nearly a month later.
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The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
The problem with that figure of 46,100 is that it is total nonsense.
On the radio yesterday I heard someone from National Health England admit that a woman who had died of a stroke is amongst those 46,100 Covid deaths because she had previously tested positive for it. She made a complete recovery from Covid19, and died from the stroke nearly a month later.
The government have been desperate to increase the numbers of covid deaths from the start, figures have been manipulated to justify the lockdowns for some reason, I know of old people in their 80s & 90's who were dying prior to Covid 19 that tested positive and so went down as a covid 19 death. People with end stage kidney disease and terminal cancer testing positive and so going down as a covid 19 death, plus positive tests have been found to be inaccurate in many instances.
I am sure that these cases occur. But ... there also is this phenomenon called "over killed". There have been many examples of national death countings after f.i. a major flu epidemic. The number of deaths are compared with years where there was no epidemic. Shocking. I'm afraid that the real number of covid-19 deaths in the UK alone could be closer to 100.000 than the "fake" numbers you mentioned.
And each country has the same problem, if only reading the "over killed" figures after the 2017/2018 flu epidemic in the USA for instance.
We're all in deep sh*t, whether we like it or. So just put on a G&R record and enjoy it as long as you can ...
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Sounds like a science fiction/horror movie, but that's the reality we're living in until this virus is neutralized some how....
It's a big fuss about nothing, today we hear that in Britain 1 in 14 have had covid 19, get the calculator out, 70 million Britons divided by 14 = 5 million. Divide the 46 thousand deaths by 5 million who have had the virus, gives you a death rate of 0.0092
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My bet is: 2021 is BIGGER.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci is predicting a vaccine will be ready by year’s end. I fully expect large scale sporting events and concerts to resume quickly once vaccinations are widespread.
Still won’t get me to go see Guns ‘n Roses.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci is predicting a vaccine will be ready by year’s end. I fully expect large scale sporting events and concerts to resume quickly once vaccinations are widespread.
Still won’t get me to go see Guns ‘n Roses.
well, I'm really not in G&R nor a hard rock fan, But I saw Slash (with Miles Kenndedy) and he's realy great.
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The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
The problem with that figure of 46,100 is that it is total nonsense.
On the radio yesterday I heard someone from National Health England admit that a woman who had died of a stroke is amongst those 46,100 Covid deaths because she had previously tested positive for it. She made a complete recovery from Covid19, and died from the stroke nearly a month later.
The government have been desperate to increase the numbers of covid deaths from the start, figures have been manipulated to justify the lockdowns for some reason, I know of old people in their 80s & 90's who were dying prior to Covid 19 that tested positive and so went down as a covid 19 death. People with end stage kidney disease and terminal cancer testing positive and so going down as a covid 19 death, plus positive tests have been found to be inaccurate in many instances.
I am sure that these cases occur. But ... there also is this phenomenon called "over killed". There have been many examples of national death countings after f.i. a major flu epidemic. The number of deaths are compared with years where there was no epidemic. Shocking. I'm afraid that the real number of covid-19 deaths in the UK alone could be closer to 100.000 than the "fake" numbers you mentioned.
And each country has the same problem, if only reading the "over killed" figures after the 2017/2018 flu epidemic in the USA for instance.
We're all in deep sh*t, whether we like it or. So just put on a G&R record and enjoy it as long as you can ...
Pure conjecture on your part for which you have zero evidence. 100,000? Total nonsense....
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Dr. Anthony Fauci is predicting a vaccine will be ready by year’s end. I fully expect large scale sporting events and concerts to resume quickly once vaccinations are widespread.
Still won’t get me to go see Guns ‘n Roses.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci is predicting a vaccine will be ready by year’s end. I fully expect large scale sporting events and concerts to resume quickly once vaccinations are widespread.
Still won’t get me to go see Guns ‘n Roses.
Do you have a link to Fauci's quote? Sounds unlikely, as functional vaccines for viruses like this often take 6-10 years to develop.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci is predicting a vaccine will be ready by year’s end. I fully expect large scale sporting events and concerts to resume quickly once vaccinations are widespread.
Still won’t get me to go see Guns ‘n Roses.
Do you have a link to Fauci's quote? Sounds unlikely, as functional vaccines for viruses like this often take 6-10 years to develop.
[www.politico.eu]
People have pushed it up from spring of next year to end of this year, just cause they want it to be so. Probably won't be the case. They said a year from March/April (which seems optimistic too, but I'll wait till that comes and passes) and now people are saying end of this year which seems highly unlikely. They've gotta find the vaccine, then test it for months to make sure it doesn't have side effects. I assume we won't have a vaccine till Spring of next year, and even that seems pretty unlikely. I'm kinda just assuming this year and next year is a wash.
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The number of deaths due to covid-19 in UK is 46100. Why mention a statistic that is proven to be incorrect? There's so many holes in the rest of your theory that I don't know nother to pick on them, but at least keep the numbers straight
The problem with that figure of 46,100 is that it is total nonsense.
On the radio yesterday I heard someone from National Health England admit that a woman who had died of a stroke is amongst those 46,100 Covid deaths because she had previously tested positive for it. She made a complete recovery from Covid19, and died from the stroke nearly a month later.
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I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show
But you're saying it's OK for them to perform in front of thousands?
By most accounts, the Stones are considered "elderly", and when you consider their past serious health issues...the list goes on and on....
Yet previously you stated "I'm sure that they can take a chance on doing some modest venues next year before it's too late for them, if they want to of course".
Without knowing what the future holds with this pandemic, and given the Stones age and health issues, how can you be so sure this is a good idea?
Judging by how weak the virus is right now, so few deaths considering people where I live completely ignoring distancing by the thousands, and no spike in deaths I'm assuming next Summer will be safe for the Stones to get on and live the rest of their lives to the full.
Like I said, if they want to, or they can see out the rest of their days living in fear, now come on mate, you know that's not their style.
BTW Hairball, you do realise that playing to thousands doesn't involve close contact, I've bought some expensive tickets in my time but never managed to get anywhere near two meters from Mick And Keith and certainly not Charlie.
No meet and greet , no hangers on, turn up and play the show and straight out of the venue would make good sense.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci is predicting a vaccine will be ready by year’s end. I fully expect large scale sporting events and concerts to resume quickly once vaccinations are widespread.
Still won’t get me to go see Guns ‘n Roses.
Do you have a link to Fauci's quote? Sounds unlikely, as functional vaccines for viruses like this often take 6-10 years to develop.
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I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show
But you're saying it's OK for them to perform in front of thousands?
By most accounts, the Stones are considered "elderly", and when you consider their past serious health issues...the list goes on and on....
Yet previously you stated "I'm sure that they can take a chance on doing some modest venues next year before it's too late for them, if they want to of course".
Without knowing what the future holds with this pandemic, and given the Stones age and health issues, how can you be so sure this is a good idea?
Judging by how weak the virus is right now, so few deaths considering people where I live completely ignoring distancing by the thousands, and no spike in deaths I'm assuming next Summer will be safe for the Stones to get on and live the rest of their lives to the full.
Like I said, if they want to, or they can see out the rest of their days living in fear, now come on mate, you know that's not their style.
BTW Hairball, you do realise that playing to thousands doesn't involve close contact, I've bought some expensive tickets in my time but never managed to get anywhere near two meters from Mick And Keith and certainly not Charlie.
No meet and greet , no hangers on, turn up and play the show and straight out of the venue would make good sense.
Don't assume. You make an Ass of of U and Me. There is too much stupidity in this post I don't know where to start. How weak is the virus? First hand experience or just what you are reading on facebook? If you look at what is happening with a week of baseball as what a tour would be like without the degree of testing. If you want to guarantee someone in the band dying, put them on tour using your safety logic.
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I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show
But you're saying it's OK for them to perform in front of thousands?
By most accounts, the Stones are considered "elderly", and when you consider their past serious health issues...the list goes on and on....
Yet previously you stated "I'm sure that they can take a chance on doing some modest venues next year before it's too late for them, if they want to of course".
Without knowing what the future holds with this pandemic, and given the Stones age and health issues, how can you be so sure this is a good idea?
Judging by how weak the virus is right now, so few deaths considering people where I live completely ignoring distancing by the thousands, and no spike in deaths I'm assuming next Summer will be safe for the Stones to get on and live the rest of their lives to the full.
Like I said, if they want to, or they can see out the rest of their days living in fear, now come on mate, you know that's not their style.
BTW Hairball, you do realise that playing to thousands doesn't involve close contact, I've bought some expensive tickets in my time but never managed to get anywhere near two meters from Mick And Keith and certainly not Charlie.
No meet and greet , no hangers on, turn up and play the show and straight out of the venue would make good sense.
Don't assume. You make an Ass of of U and Me. There is too much stupidity in this post I don't know where to start. How weak is the virus? First hand experience or just what you are reading on facebook? If you look at what is happening with a week of baseball as what a tour would be like without the degree of testing. If you want to guarantee someone in the band dying, put them on tour using your safety logic.
5 deaths in the UK today, down from 800 or so at it's peak, and that's with lockdown lifted, of course the virus is weak now you moron.
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I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show
But you're saying it's OK for them to perform in front of thousands?
By most accounts, the Stones are considered "elderly", and when you consider their past serious health issues...the list goes on and on....
Yet previously you stated "I'm sure that they can take a chance on doing some modest venues next year before it's too late for them, if they want to of course".
Without knowing what the future holds with this pandemic, and given the Stones age and health issues, how can you be so sure this is a good idea?
Judging by how weak the virus is right now, so few deaths considering people where I live completely ignoring distancing by the thousands, and no spike in deaths I'm assuming next Summer will be safe for the Stones to get on and live the rest of their lives to the full.
Like I said, if they want to, or they can see out the rest of their days living in fear, now come on mate, you know that's not their style.
BTW Hairball, you do realise that playing to thousands doesn't involve close contact, I've bought some expensive tickets in my time but never managed to get anywhere near two meters from Mick And Keith and certainly not Charlie.
No meet and greet , no hangers on, turn up and play the show and straight out of the venue would make good sense.
Don't assume. You make an Ass of of U and Me. There is too much stupidity in this post I don't know where to start. How weak is the virus? First hand experience or just what you are reading on facebook? If you look at what is happening with a week of baseball as what a tour would be like without the degree of testing. If you want to guarantee someone in the band dying, put them on tour using your safety logic.
5 deaths in the UK today, down from 800 or so at it's peak, and that's with lockdown lifted, of course the virus is weak now you moron.
"The virus is weak" is the most idiotic thing I have heard in quite some time. Might I make a suggestion. Go expose yourself to the virus and let us know how weak it is. My personal experience is that it will be the worst illness you have ever experienced. The only reason UK deaths are minimized is people have adhered to wearing masks, social distancing, not attending indoor bars, concerts etc. Look at other countries that have not done so and I would bet public health officials and doctors would dispute your moronic view the virus is weak.
One word of warning. Stupidity is a Covid-19 risk factor. Anyone who claims "The virus is weak" suffers from a terminal case of stupidity.
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I would also say that it would be a risky move for an elderly person or a sick person to attend a show
But you're saying it's OK for them to perform in front of thousands?
By most accounts, the Stones are considered "elderly", and when you consider their past serious health issues...the list goes on and on....
Yet previously you stated "I'm sure that they can take a chance on doing some modest venues next year before it's too late for them, if they want to of course".
Without knowing what the future holds with this pandemic, and given the Stones age and health issues, how can you be so sure this is a good idea?
Judging by how weak the virus is right now, so few deaths considering people where I live completely ignoring distancing by the thousands, and no spike in deaths I'm assuming next Summer will be safe for the Stones to get on and live the rest of their lives to the full.
Like I said, if they want to, or they can see out the rest of their days living in fear, now come on mate, you know that's not their style.
BTW Hairball, you do realise that playing to thousands doesn't involve close contact, I've bought some expensive tickets in my time but never managed to get anywhere near two meters from Mick And Keith and certainly not Charlie.
No meet and greet , no hangers on, turn up and play the show and straight out of the venue would make good sense.
Don't assume. You make an Ass of of U and Me. There is too much stupidity in this post I don't know where to start. How weak is the virus? First hand experience or just what you are reading on facebook? If you look at what is happening with a week of baseball as what a tour would be like without the degree of testing. If you want to guarantee someone in the band dying, put them on tour using your safety logic.
5 deaths in the UK today, down from 800 or so at it's peak, and that's with lockdown lifted, of course the virus is weak now you moron.
"The virus is weak" is the most idiotic thing I have heard in quite some time. Might I make a suggestion. Go expose yourself to the virus and let us know how weak it is. My personal experience is that it will be the worst illness you have ever experienced. The only reason UK deaths are minimized is people have adhered to wearing masks, social distancing, not attending indoor bars, concerts etc. Look at other countries that have not done so and I would bet public health officials and doctors would dispute your moronic view the virus is weak.
One word of warning. Stupidity is a Covid-19 risk factor. Anyone who claims "The virus is weak" suffers from a terminal case of stupidity.
The fact is, most holidaymakers in England right now are absolutely ignoring social distancing on a huge scale, I really expected a spike is deaths, but as i pointed out we had 5 deaths in England yesterday, 8 deaths if you include the whole of the UK. Clearly ( unless your brain is unable to absorb facts ) covid 19 is weak, we had 1000 deaths some days during lockdown.
So many people testing positive is a good thing when deaths have dramatically fallen, if you can't understand that you can't understand anything, but you are not alone, so many people can't see through the way the media are ignoring the very low death figures now. The herd immunity has all but defeated the virus.
8 deaths out of 70 million people , think about it as a statistic, that many old people die from ordinary flu each day.
Ok I'm out, sorry you can't see this as a positive thing towards live music next year.