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This was a long time ago from what I remember, but just going from memory, these are the folks who I read auditioned for the Stones guitarist job:
Jeff Beck
Rory Gallagher
Harvey Mandel
Wayne Perkins
Peter Frampton
Steve Marriott
Nils Lofgren
Roy Buchanan
Mick Ronson (?)
Am I missing anybody?
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Then again, much of what I said above about Gallagher could also be said about Mick Taylor when he was on his own. So I would not totally rule out that it could have worked with the Stones around.
BS. Comparing Mick Taylor’s albums to his? Not even close. Taylor touches on way more styles and his first album is one of the best Stones solo efforts there is.
That's not what I said and did. Please read again. My quote is probably a bit unfair to Rory, because his career wasn't the desaster that Taylor's solo career turned into. I just suggested that like the Stones brought out the best in Taylor, it's not unthinkable that they also could have brought out the best in Rory.
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... it's not unthinkable that they also could have brought out the best in Rory.
Class of what?Segovia? Mick Taylor in 1973 was better thanBeck.And what Ron Wood does,having to mesh with Keith,holdback from wailing,Beck or Gallagher wouldn’t do better.Infact let’s say Gallagher joined in 1975 the Stones .And let’s say he did what Wood did and was not showboating or wailing away for20 minutes.People would be saying,like they say about Wood being better in the Faces, ,Oh,what happened to his playing.He was so much better as a solo artistQuote
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Just like Jeff Beck, Rory Gallagher was a class of his own. It never would have worked with the Rolling Stones, at least not with Keith Richards. Not enough room.
Rory Gallagher, Pinkpop 1974. Laundromat.
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I always wished they had chosen Harvey Mandel. He is a great player and a relaxed guy. Having health problems right now though. I wish him the best and it probably would have helped him out greatly in most ways, joining the Stones. And he wouldn't have had a problem with the "sideman" role.
Somebody in the rhythm section said he used too many "gadgets", haha! I love Harvey Mandel. His playing on Charlie Musselwhite's South Side Band is sublime. His tone is unique, especially for the mid-60's.
As Harvey tells it, Jagger wanted him in the group, which makes sense because he was versatile in all sorts of styles and could play a lot of the different stuff Jagger was into at the time. He said Richards wanted Perkins, so they settled on Wood.
Spedding could hang, and had a cool look that would have worked.
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Then again, much of what I said above about Gallagher could also be said about Mick Taylor when he was on his own. So I would not totally rule out that it could have worked with the Stones around.
BS. Comparing Mick Taylor’s albums to his? Not even close. Taylor touches on way more styles and his first album is one of the best Stones solo efforts there is.
That's not what I said and did. Please read again. My quote is probably a bit unfair to Rory, because his career wasn't the desaster that Taylor's solo career turned into. I just suggested that like the Stones brought out the best in Taylor, it's not unthinkable that they also could have brought out the best in Rory.
I’m saying Taylor moved outside of the “workman style blues” boundaries when he went solo.
“Lacks soul, emotion, imagination, and restraint.” I personally, and certainly many others, don’t feel that way about Taylor. With the Stones or solo.
I suppose that’s why they’re opinions.
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... it's not unthinkable that they also could have brought out the best in Rory.
I find this hard to believe. Rory was the kind of player that needed his own band
to shine, and probably never wanted to be limited to the role of a guitarist that had to interact with Keith in order to play a guitar solo or fill every now and then or play the chords strictly. Besides he was a very good singer. He had enough ammunition to do his own thing. Joining the Rolling Stones according to the rules of Jagger and Richards would have killed his own creativity, otherwise he would have woken up Keith with three buckets of cold water.
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Mike Douglas asked Jimi Hendrix, "What's it like to be the best rock guitarist in the world?" and Jimi responded, "I don't know, you'll have to ask Rory Gallagher".
Did he actually say this or is it (as I suspect) an urban legend?
Considering that by the time Hendrix died, Rory was 22 and had a discography amounting to two studio albums with Taste, I'd find it highly improbable. (edit I see its mentioned in the original article as being an 'apocryphal' quote - so in other words its almost certainly bollocks)
I dont believe for a second from the scores of accounts of this era in the band's history that have been in the public domain for the last few decades, that Rory was ever close to getting the Stones job. His brother Donal has been somewhat prone to exaggerating things over the years to keep the legend alive.
Super musician though and an all round great guy - his studio output has never really made an impression. Only really seemed to do himself justice in a live setting IMO
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Gazza
Oh I've no doubt that he auditioned (or at least played with them in Rotterdam). I've just never read from any credible source that he was on the shortlist which seems to have been early on limited to three people - Wood, Perkins and Mandel.
I don't think its a coincidence that when they reconvened in Munich five weeks later to continue working on 'Black and Blue' that those three - and no other guitarists - joined them during the 3 weeks that the sessions lasted.
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Then again, much of what I said above about Gallagher could also be said about Mick Taylor when he was on his own. So I would not totally rule out that it could have worked with the Stones around.
BS. Comparing Mick Taylor’s albums to his? Not even close. Taylor touches on way more styles and his first album is one of the best Stones solo efforts there is.
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... it's not unthinkable that they also could have brought out the best in Rory.
I find this hard to believe. Rory was the kind of player that needed his own band
to shine, and probably never wanted to be limited to the role of a guitarist that had to interact with Keith in order to play a guitar solo or fill every now and then or play the chords strictly. Besides he was a very good singer. He had enough ammunition to do his own thing. Joining the Rolling Stones according to the rules of Jagger and Richards would have killed his own creativity, otherwise he would have woken up Keith with three buckets of cold water.
It's definitely hard to believe for all the reasons you mentioned, but not entirely unthinkable. If anything, I don't think it would have lasted for long, maybe for one or two albums and the 1975/1976 tours. It could have been great - or ended in desaster - we'll never know.
Let's not forget the factor that the musical landscape changed considerably in the mid-70's. Unlike 1969, guitar heroes were not essential for a band to survive. With Ronnie the Stones were able to adjust to the times, while Rory since the late 70's began a slow downwards spiral into obscurity.
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OpenG
I think MT showed his talent with writing Slow Blues, Giddy Up and Spanish A Minor
I think his two studio records were fantastic and he wasted his talent all those years after the stones and just collaborated with other artists to get by. I do not think Jeff Beck could of wrote a better blues composition then Slow Blues or a better tonal fushion masterpiece like Spanish A Minor. Just my opinion
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Then again, much of what I said above about Gallagher could also be said about Mick Taylor when he was on his own. So I would not totally rule out that it could have worked with the Stones around.
BS. Comparing Mick Taylor’s albums to his? Not even close. Taylor touches on way more styles and his first album is one of the best Stones solo efforts there is.
I am a big fan of Taylor but I think you are giving Rory Gallagher less credit than he deserves. He also played some jazz and folk influenced stuff as well and even played the alto sax on a few cuts with Taste and on his first solo lp.
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I think MT showed his talent with writing Slow Blues, Giddy Up and Spanish A Minor
I think his two studio records were fantastic and he wasted his talent all those years after the stones and just collaborated with other artists to get by. I do not think Jeff Beck could of wrote a better blues composition then Slow Blues or a better tonal fushion masterpiece like Spanish A Minor. Just my opinion
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Taylor always a really polished classy blues master with a little jazz tinge. Wood is not technically a virtuoso of any description but has The Rolling Stones feel in spades- the perfect replacement. No one else comes close. I think overall his best musical moments were with The Faces/early 70's Rod. Neither Taylor or Wood played this kind of stuff.
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