Read somewhere Blondie and X-Pensive Winos had rehearsals at the same location, and the walls were thin.
From that day on, it is also rumoured the Stones or Keith would only play in places with no other artists rehearsing, so there would be no competition listening around

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The Tide is High was released in 1980, long before the Winos existed!

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The Tide is High was released in 1980, long before the Winos existed!

Don't think that's a valid excuse for stealin' Keef's song.

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Gotta love Blondie though.

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The Tide is High was released in 1980, long before the Winos existed!

Don't think that's a valid excuse for stealin' Keef's song.

That's a very good point, Britney!

The Tide is High is a 1967 song written by the Paragons. Blondie covered it in 1980. So unless The Paragons stole it from Keith in 1967, probably not a lot of truth to that story.

If I remember correctly, Keith claimed that he had recorded a demo version of the song that was circulating around in NY in the end of the 70ies and Blondie somehow got the idea to cover this song in a more pop-oriented way from his demo. Maybe it was in Bockris Keith Bio. I don't know. I remember that it seemed quite questionable to me, when I first read it.

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The Tide is High is a 1967 song written by the Paragons. Blondie covered it in 1980. So unless The Paragons stole it from Keith in 1967, probably not a lot of truth to that story.

Sorry, it's not what I suggested
Rumour is Keith covered the Paragons'song during a studio session during the late seventies (ok then, not the Winos), maybe with the idea to release a new version.. To bring a new life to the old song... Think for instance to Run Rudolph Run..

Story goes that Blondie was around and heard by accident Keith's attempt to bring a new life to this old hit.. And they allegedly hurried to record their own cover of the song... So Keith did not release anything at all at the end of the day, because the idea of bringing to life the old song had been "stolen". . Again, it's a rumor.

OK, that makes sense and with Keith Covering The Harder they Come and recording songs like Luxury in '74 and later Too Rude it would seem The Tide is High would definitely be a song Keith would have enjoyed. I believe Start Me Up originally had a reggae vibe to it when it was first recorded.

it just got me thinking now... all these demos Keith and Mick recorded over the years...there could be real gems among them (in the vein of the honeymoon tapes etc)

TumblinDice76 if you don't know (or if you do always great to register to this stuff from time to time) the Start Me Up version with reggae vibe:
Start me up early version

And I just stumbled over this while looking for the Start me up version
Blondie Start me up

When I heard Look What The Cat Dragged In my immediate thought was 'How dare INXS rip the Stones off like this!'

Of course I was RIGHT.

As mentioned, the Paragons, or more precisely, John Holt, wrote the tide is high. but blondie was pretty famous for ripping lyrics, case in point, the jam was moving, total steal of lyrics by I forget who the original NYC rapper was. He was pissed though.

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The Jam Was Moving is not a Blondie song.

I have never heard about them allegedly being famous for stealing lyrics, and a quick survey on the net about this allegation didn't yield any result.

Moreover, I don't think recording an already released 1967 song written and recorded by someone else than Keith or The Stones is stealing anything, just because Keith was heard playing it through the wall. Keith doesn't own it or anything. And it's a total crap song anyway (I only know the Blondie version).



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The Jam Was Moving is not a Blondie song.

I have never heard about them allegedly being famous for stealing lyrics, and a quick survey on the net about this allegation didn't yield any result.

Moreover, I don't think recording an already released 1967 song written and recorded by someone else than Keith or The Stones is stealing anything, just because Keith was heard playing it through the wall. Keith doesn't own it or anything. And it's a total crap song anyway (I only know the Blondie version).

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The Jam Was Moving is not a Blondie song.

I have never heard about them allegedly being famous for stealing lyrics, and a quick survey on the net about this allegation didn't yield any result.

Moreover, I don't think recording an already released 1967 song written and recorded by someone else than Keith or The Stones is stealing anything, just because Keith was heard playing it through the wall. Keith doesn't own it or anything. And it's a total crap song anyway (I only know the Blondie version).

Was just stirring the pot, You return the favor by stirring the post. Good

As you can see, my post was not really a direct response to your original post above.

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The Jam Was Moving is not a Blondie song.

I have never heard about them allegedly being famous for stealing lyrics, and a quick survey on the net about this allegation didn't yield any result.

Moreover, I don't think recording an already released 1967 song written and recorded by someone else than Keith or The Stones is stealing anything, just because Keith was heard playing it through the wall. Keith doesn't own it or anything. And it's a total crap song anyway (I only know the Blondie version).

Was just stirring the pot, You return the favor by stirring the post. Good

As you can see, my post was not really a direct response to your original post above.

All good, friend. I'm lost. I'm just reading you. What are the connexions between with The Jam Was Moving, allegedly non-stolen lyrics by Blondie, the year 1967 (when The Tide Is High was written) and Keith?

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The Jam Was Moving is not a Blondie song.

I have never heard about them allegedly being famous for stealing lyrics, and a quick survey on the net about this allegation didn't yield any result.

Moreover, I don't think recording an already released 1967 song written and recorded by someone else than Keith or The Stones is stealing anything, just because Keith was heard playing it through the wall. Keith doesn't own it or anything. And it's a total crap song anyway (I only know the Blondie version).

Was just stirring the pot, You return the favor by stirring the post. Good

As you can see, my post was not really a direct response to your original post above.

All good, friend. I'm lost. I'm just reading you. What are the connexions between with The Jam Was Moving, allegedly non-stolen lyrics by Blondie, the year 1967 (when The Tide Is High was written) and Keith?

See the post by dr. Welda, halfway up this page:

"As mentioned, the Paragons, or more precisely, John Holt, wrote the tide is high. but blondie was pretty famous for ripping lyrics, case in point, the jam was moving, total steal of lyrics by I forget who the original NYC rapper was. He was pissed though."

The original song was from 1967, as some others here already said. Finally, Blondie was rumoured to have heard Keith play it through the wall, at least that's what you seemed to imply, if I read you correctly.

It might help to read what others posted on your thread

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It might help to read what others posted on your thread

"As mentioned, the Paragons, or more precisely, John Holt, wrote the tide is high. but blondie was pretty famous for ripping lyrics, case in point, the jam was moving, total steal of lyrics by I forget who the original NYC rapper was. He was pissed though."


I'm sorry. I must be a sensitive person, at least a case sensitive person. Please, don't think low of me. I was fooled because the tide is high was written in lower case, and well as for the poor blondie, who failed to the bottom of a B minus. myapologies.

That thread went OFF-TRACK from the moment the "X-Pensive Winos" were mentioned in the first post as a band from the 70s ! That would be embarrassing as a random YouTube comment but on IORR ?!

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That thread went OFF-TRACK from the moment the "X-Pensive Winos" were mentioned in the first post as a band from the 70s ! That would be embarrassing as a random YouTube comment but on IORR ?!

Eh, you know, the fact that Stones lifted Prince's early version of Purple Rain for Worried About You shouldn't be anymore of an error than the X-Pensive Winos ripping off Blondie.

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That thread went OFF-TRACK from the moment the "X-Pensive Winos" were mentioned in the first post as a band from the 70s ! That would be embarrassing as a random YouTube comment but on IORR ?!

Perhaps went off track with the Ron Jeremy reference.....????? ;-) For those of us old enough to know of him....

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That thread went OFF-TRACK from the moment the "X-Pensive Winos" were mentioned in the first post as a band from the 70s ! That would be embarrassing as a random YouTube comment but on IORR ?!

Perhaps went off track with the Ron Jeremy reference.....????? ;-) For those of us old enough to know of him....

Wasn't he that arthouse movie guy, intellectual stuff and all...

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That thread went OFF-TRACK from the moment the "X-Pensive Winos" were mentioned in the first post as a band from the 70s ! That would be embarrassing as a random YouTube comment but on IORR ?!

Perhaps went off track with the Ron Jeremy reference.....????? ;-) For those of us old enough to know of him....

Wasn't he that arthouse movie guy, intellectual stuff and all...

...so I am told ;-)

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