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Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: rebelhipi ()
Date: October 22, 2021 05:45

Like stated here the new remaster is wayy to compressed.
BUT, the dolby atmos version has way less compression.

Also after a quick listen Wembley sounds ok. Not Amazing, not bad either.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-10-22 05:47 by rebelhipi.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 22, 2021 06:33



Tattoo You 2021



ROCKMAN

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 22, 2021 06:34



Tattoo You 2021 .........



ROCKMAN

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: October 22, 2021 06:53

Thanks, Rockman!

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 22, 2021 06:59

.... I'm here ta help ............................... and hinder



ROCKMAN

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: Topi ()
Date: October 22, 2021 07:22

Seems to be up on Spotify, complete with the Wembley show:

[open.spotify.com]

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: October 22, 2021 07:36

Just downloaded the super deluxe mp3 version, and have the physical 2 disc CD on order. Listening now.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 22, 2021 07:37

Quote
Stoneage
Yea, what's the point buying the super deluxe album when you can listen to it for free on Spotify? Saves you both money and space...

Because, for personal example, when a hurricane comes along and knocks out power and internet and, I dunno, you get power back within 8 days but not internet, in my case, over a month... I'm certainly grateful for not joining the 'oh it's online so get rid of' idiocy of DVDs, Bluerays and CDs.

Ida made me realize some some things: the internet is not all it's cracked up to be in "being in touch" or "communication". X amount of people marked themselves safe on FB because... I really don't know. A majority of people I saw posting that were nowhere near, yet alone where I was, Ida.

And with the whole 'connected' bullshit of social media... nothing. Just like the idiots on a couch saying 'stand in solidarity' with whatever.

Complete bullshit.

But the distance of that "being in touch" may be my own fault for eating the disaster of a hurricane with glee and people may see something - or not see a thing - and figure, well, leave him alone - but for a week or the rest of September, I found it interesting not one person within personal circumference asked anything.

Yet alone others from afar. But I figure it to be 'it's a mess' so why bother. It is. It will be for a while.

That aside, the whole "we are a community" is a bit odd: only if you're really in trouble for a moment - a day later it's forgotten.

Don't think you're on your own? Have friends? Bullshit. More alone than you may ever be capable of understanding. Life is not an app.

I rode around on a bike I didn't even recognize. I got lost because of all the trees and water except when I realized 'oh, that's' whatever bayou overflowed or I recognized a tree yet it's on the ground. I found friends I haven't hung out with in eons and they fed me variations of Bloody Mary's and whatever.

Here we are.

Yep. 2 hours later: I gotta go.

OK. See ya later.

It took me over an hour to go half a mile home because of the destruction. Wandered around and saw just mess, houses split by trees. Houses surrounded by trees. Streets completely shut down because of trees. That didn't affect me, strangely, specifically, the disaster that I'm familiar with for so long, it was just MORE so, a lot more so, especially after seeing what happened S and SW of where I live that got PLOWED - what really affected me was sleeping in a house that was 89F and wondering how my dogs were handling the heat.

So.

I welcome the hard copy deluxe reissue of TATTOO YOU.

Missed out on the release of A BIGGER BANG because of Hurricane Katrina. I missed everything with it. Katrina taught me that my interest in music, regardless of how and why, didn't matter. I had to be where I was and deal with where I was. With exception to a certain aspect of music, music meant zero at that time, and the Stones were not on my mind, but music turned into a lifeline.

Being reduced to a piece of dust, or the equivalent of a twig, brings on new observations - and respect for "things" in life.

There's a general attitude here along the Gulf Coast that seems to confuse the rest of the United States - we ride every day. Because at any time it can all get destroyed.

The beauty of disc 2 of the 2021 TATTOO YOU deluxe is... if you don't like it, don't listen. If you want to bitch about it, I have several fallen oak trees you can crawl under and tell me if they look heavy.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: October 22, 2021 07:39

I think the new Fast Talking is great! It doesn't lose that flavor from FFSO.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: JohnnyBGoode ()
Date: October 22, 2021 07:40

Start Me Up knocked me into the next apartment!

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: October 22, 2021 07:41

Thoroughly enjoy in Come To The Ball as well. I hadn't heard that one before. Very good stuff.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: JohnnyBGoode ()
Date: October 22, 2021 07:45

Made my own tracklisting, Shame after Slave works well.



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Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: October 22, 2021 07:52

I'm having a great time listening to Disc 2 now. I admit I didn't quite get Fiji Jim in the Fully Finished version, but I think this version is a lot better.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: October 22, 2021 08:05

Start Me Up is excellent! It's like a reimagining. I really liked hearing the different take on it. And if these are new vocals, Mick is doing an amazing job. It's hard to believe he can still sing so well.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: October 22, 2021 09:21

Quote
JordyLicks96
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Drift Away had the old vocals?

The two songs with their original vocals are Living In The Heart Of Love and Drift Away. Everything else has new vocals.

Start Me Up seems completely new and redone...not only new vocals!



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Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: Massimo68 ()
Date: October 22, 2021 09:51

Unavailable on Amazon.fr, Fnac.com and all Fnac stores in France.

For the preorders, shipping date is unknown at this time.



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Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Date: October 22, 2021 10:04

Quote
retired_dog
It's a real funny community here - with "Lost & Found" imo the Stones just released their best album since, yes, the original "Tattoo You" and people complain about the dynamic range!

I'd even go so far to say that the material on "Lost & Found" puts lots of stuff on Emotional Rescue, Undercover and Dirty Work to shame.

It's great, and this one is up there with the SG extra album.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Date: October 22, 2021 10:14

It's really impressive what they did with Start Me Up. Love it! thumbs up

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: RobertJohnson ()
Date: October 22, 2021 10:16

Wembley is superb, a raw, rough and rowdy performance as I like it. Besides Leeds another testimonial of the greatest band on earth (and in heaven).

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Date: October 22, 2021 10:45

Quote
johnypar
Quote
DandelionPowderman
The vocals are new.

the vocals are new on all "extra" songs, and not only vocals. Solid effort overall, but I personally prefer by mile recently leaked outtakes over any extra/deluxe song.
Fast talking, slow walking.... the original outtake is a perfection. I was expecting remastered production... but definitely not new vocals and guitar parts.
I won't be listening this deluxe version even few times, prefer old production and outtakes spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Not on all.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: DiamondDog7 ()
Date: October 22, 2021 11:13

Very glad that they gave Mick Taylor credits on some tracks here.

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Date: October 22, 2021 11:21

Quote
KRiffhard
Quote
JordyLicks96
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Drift Away had the old vocals?

The two songs with their original vocals are Living In The Heart Of Love and Drift Away. Everything else has new vocals.

Start Me Up seems completely new and redone...not only new vocals!

It's the backing tracks of Never Stop, with new guitar overdubs from Ronnie and new vocals. It's brilliant! thumbs up

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: toomuchforme ()
Date: October 22, 2021 11:30

humm after a listening this morning on Tidal Hifi with excellent headphone the technical limitations are here for the album remaster. Hiss as always.

For the outtakes my impressions :
Living in the heart of love : at last the good title track. You can hear Keith properly on vocals. New Ronnie guitar part with a solo around 3'+ Taylor if I am correct. A solid rocking song.
Fiji Jim has a great Mick harp.
Trouble's a coming we know it now. Played liv recently. A great one. New MJ vocal of course.
Same on Shame shame shame with great interacting guitars (more than 2 in the mix).
Drift away has a new guitar intro ? and maybe new vocal MJ only for the choir part. Drums sound too thin.
It's a lie. Very "some girls" album style. New MJ vocal. Very dancing song. A bit too long.
Come to the ball is something I did not know I think. new MJ vocal. The bass is efficient.
Fast talking (from Jamaica sessions if I remember). Nice piano (Hopkins) and Taylor behind; new MJ vocal. New Ronnie accoustic guitar I guess. Great ballad now !
Start me up : at last the reggae version ? I love it !! best release

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: October 22, 2021 11:32

The outtakes disc of Tattoo You is BY FAR the best disc of outtakes of any of The Stones Deluxe releases. Fully realised songs. Do I love them all? No. But I LOVE most and like the balance of them. Very VERY happy to have them.

Rod

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: MrEcho ()
Date: October 22, 2021 11:36

Quote
ironbelly
I do not want to spoil a party
Qobuz 24-Bit / 44.1 kHz

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Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Tattoo You (Super Deluxe Edition)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR4 -0.20 dB -5.41 dB 3:34 01-Start Me Up
DR5 -0.20 dB -5.74 dB 2:22 02-Hang Fire
DR6 -0.20 dB -7.70 dB 6:32 03-Slave
DR5 -0.20 dB -5.90 dB 3:24 04-Little T&A
DR5 -0.20 dB -6.07 dB 3:35 05-Black Limousine
DR6 -0.20 dB -6.38 dB 3:34 06-Neighbours
DR5 -0.20 dB -8.21 dB 5:18 07-Worried About You
DR5 -0.20 dB -7.39 dB 3:49 08-Tops
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.78 dB 4:23 09-Heaven
DR6 -0.20 dB -8.56 dB 3:27 10-No Use In Crying
DR5 -0.20 dB -7.17 dB 4:36 11-Waiting On A Friend
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of tracks: 11
Official DR value: DR5
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1671 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Tattoo You (Super Deluxe Edition)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR4 -0.20 dB -5.20 dB 4:13 01-Living In The Heart Of Love
DR4 -0.20 dB -5.14 dB 4:00 02-Fiji Jim
DR5 -0.20 dB -6.58 dB 4:16 03-Troubles A’ Comin
DR5 -0.20 dB -6.16 dB 4:14 04-Shame, Shame, Shame
DR5 -0.20 dB -6.96 dB 4:07 05-Drift Away
DR5 -0.20 dB -5.87 dB 4:57 06-It's A Lie
DR5 -0.20 dB -5.94 dB 3:41 07-Come To The Ball
DR4 -0.20 dB -5.49 dB 5:40 08-Fast Talking, Slow Walking
DR4 -0.20 dB -6.30 dB 4:10 09-Start Me Up
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Number of tracks: 9
Official DR value: DR5
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1588 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Tattoo You (Super Deluxe Edition)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR8 -0.21 dB -10.00 dB 3:54 01-Under My Thumb
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.01 dB 4:34 02-When The Whip Comes Down
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.49 dB 4:22 03-Let's Spend The Night Together
DR8 -0.20 dB -9.58 dB 4:41 04-Shattered
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.49 dB 4:10 05-Neighbours
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.02 dB 3:51 06-Black Limousine
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.61 dB 9:32 07-Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.84 dB 1:46 08-Twenty Flight Rock
DR8 -0.20 dB -9.20 dB 3:40 09-Going To A Go-Go
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.62 dB 4:12 10-Chantilly Lace
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.02 dB 4:06 11-Let Me Go
DR8 -0.20 dB -10.33 dB 3:51 12-Time Is On My Side
DR8 -0.20 dB -10.20 dB 7:23 13-Beast Of Burden
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.17 dB 6:00 14-Let It Bleed
DR8 -0.20 dB -10.17 dB 10:41 15-You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR12 -0.20 dB -16.17 dB 1:12 16-Band Introductions
DR7 -0.21 dB -9.37 dB 3:21 17-Little T&A
DR8 -0.21 dB -9.64 dB 4:27 18-Tumbling Dice
DR8 -0.20 dB -9.29 dB 4:10 19-She's So Cold
DR7 -0.22 dB -8.84 dB 2:27 20-Hang Fire
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.51 dB 7:49 21-Miss You
DR8 -0.20 dB -9.62 dB 3:31 22-Honky Tonk Women
DR7 -0.21 dB -8.46 dB 3:24 23-Brown Sugar
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.62 dB 4:40 24-Start Me Up
DR7 -0.21 dB -8.45 dB 6:02 25-Jumpin' Jack Flash
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.41 dB 6:02 26-(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of tracks: 26
Official DR value: DR8
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1658 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================
With this levels of compression nothing can sound great. Even 2009 remaster had DR8. And we called that one brickwalled!
Those who claim it sounds great - check your audio systems or clear your ears! winking smiley
I am ready to cancel my order for superdeluxe. With this audio quality it does not worth 100+ Euros.

DR4/5 is atrocious. Any word on whether the vinyl version has the same amount of compression?

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: October 22, 2021 11:56

Quote
MrEcho
Quote
ironbelly
I do not want to spoil a party
Qobuz 24-Bit / 44.1 kHz

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Tattoo You (Super Deluxe Edition)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR4 -0.20 dB -5.41 dB 3:34 01-Start Me Up
DR5 -0.20 dB -5.74 dB 2:22 02-Hang Fire
DR6 -0.20 dB -7.70 dB 6:32 03-Slave
DR5 -0.20 dB -5.90 dB 3:24 04-Little T&A
DR5 -0.20 dB -6.07 dB 3:35 05-Black Limousine
DR6 -0.20 dB -6.38 dB 3:34 06-Neighbours
DR5 -0.20 dB -8.21 dB 5:18 07-Worried About You
DR5 -0.20 dB -7.39 dB 3:49 08-Tops
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.78 dB 4:23 09-Heaven
DR6 -0.20 dB -8.56 dB 3:27 10-No Use In Crying
DR5 -0.20 dB -7.17 dB 4:36 11-Waiting On A Friend
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of tracks: 11
Official DR value: DR5
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1671 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Tattoo You (Super Deluxe Edition)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR4 -0.20 dB -5.20 dB 4:13 01-Living In The Heart Of Love
DR4 -0.20 dB -5.14 dB 4:00 02-Fiji Jim
DR5 -0.20 dB -6.58 dB 4:16 03-Troubles A’ Comin
DR5 -0.20 dB -6.16 dB 4:14 04-Shame, Shame, Shame
DR5 -0.20 dB -6.96 dB 4:07 05-Drift Away
DR5 -0.20 dB -5.87 dB 4:57 06-It's A Lie
DR5 -0.20 dB -5.94 dB 3:41 07-Come To The Ball
DR4 -0.20 dB -5.49 dB 5:40 08-Fast Talking, Slow Walking
DR4 -0.20 dB -6.30 dB 4:10 09-Start Me Up
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of tracks: 9
Official DR value: DR5
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1588 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Tattoo You (Super Deluxe Edition)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR8 -0.21 dB -10.00 dB 3:54 01-Under My Thumb
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.01 dB 4:34 02-When The Whip Comes Down
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.49 dB 4:22 03-Let's Spend The Night Together
DR8 -0.20 dB -9.58 dB 4:41 04-Shattered
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.49 dB 4:10 05-Neighbours
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.02 dB 3:51 06-Black Limousine
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.61 dB 9:32 07-Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.84 dB 1:46 08-Twenty Flight Rock
DR8 -0.20 dB -9.20 dB 3:40 09-Going To A Go-Go
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.62 dB 4:12 10-Chantilly Lace
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.02 dB 4:06 11-Let Me Go
DR8 -0.20 dB -10.33 dB 3:51 12-Time Is On My Side
DR8 -0.20 dB -10.20 dB 7:23 13-Beast Of Burden
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.17 dB 6:00 14-Let It Bleed
DR8 -0.20 dB -10.17 dB 10:41 15-You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR12 -0.20 dB -16.17 dB 1:12 16-Band Introductions
DR7 -0.21 dB -9.37 dB 3:21 17-Little T&A
DR8 -0.21 dB -9.64 dB 4:27 18-Tumbling Dice
DR8 -0.20 dB -9.29 dB 4:10 19-She's So Cold
DR7 -0.22 dB -8.84 dB 2:27 20-Hang Fire
DR7 -0.20 dB -9.51 dB 7:49 21-Miss You
DR8 -0.20 dB -9.62 dB 3:31 22-Honky Tonk Women
DR7 -0.21 dB -8.46 dB 3:24 23-Brown Sugar
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.62 dB 4:40 24-Start Me Up
DR7 -0.21 dB -8.45 dB 6:02 25-Jumpin' Jack Flash
DR7 -0.20 dB -8.41 dB 6:02 26-(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of tracks: 26
Official DR value: DR8
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1658 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================
With this levels of compression nothing can sound great. Even 2009 remaster had DR8. And we called that one brickwalled!
Those who claim it sounds great - check your audio systems or clear your ears! winking smiley
I am ready to cancel my order for superdeluxe. With this audio quality it does not worth 100+ Euros.

DR4/5 is atrocious. Any word on whether the vinyl version has the same amount of compression?

I trust my ears. These sounds fine to me. Chill. Forget the numbers. Just listen.

Rod

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Date: October 22, 2021 12:04

I'm on my way to the store to get the 5 LP vinyl superdeluxe right now.

The digital mixes with this kind of compression is meant to sound ok on several devices (phone, headphones from phone, computer etc.).

The dedicated vinyl mix will sound good, like most of these releases do (with a few exceptions).

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Date: October 22, 2021 13:14

The vinyl sounds fantastic thumbs up

Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: October 22, 2021 13:27

Quote
Rockman


Tattoo You 2021 .........
These credits are not accurate. Billy Preston does not play on Heaven.He stopped playing on Stones records after Black n Blue until 1997. Wyman doesn’t play bass on Hang Fire.Wood doesn’t play guitar on Slave.Isn’t Nicky Hopkins on Waiting on a Friend?No mention of Bill Wyman synth on Heaven.No mention of Taylor on Drift Away?Isnt there an organ on Drift Away?



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Re: Tattoo You deluxe version
Posted by: rattler2004 ()
Date: October 22, 2021 13:27

Fiji Jim sounds completely different

the shoot 'em dead, brainbell jangler!

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