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Rap and the Stones
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: May 23, 2020 17:50

Have the Stones ever done rap music.Is Mick’s talking at the end of Hot Stuff a precursor to rap? And do songs like England Lost and Gotta Get a Grip have elements of rap? Do any of Keith’s songs have rap in them?

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: GetYerAngie ()
Date: May 23, 2020 17:59

Shattered might be rap. And there is some proto-type rap feeling to Memo From Turner.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 23, 2020 18:00

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Taylor1

Have the Stones ever done rap music.

Anybody Seen My Baby - (Pos. 3:27) - [www.YouTube.com] ?

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: SomeGuy ()
Date: May 23, 2020 18:03

I should think that Too Much Blood is the most obvious -and shocking- example. At least, when it came out everybody I knew was shocked: are they really doing this!? In retrospect, it's just Mick rapping away some story.



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Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: May 23, 2020 18:49

The genre is hip-hop and ‘rap’ is vocal-style, of course. I don’t think the Stones have ever dabbled in the genre per-se, though Mick obviously had rapping in mind when arranging Anybody Seen My Baby. Not to great effect, in my opinion.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: The Joker ()
Date: May 23, 2020 18:50

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Irix
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Taylor1

Have the Stones ever done rap music.

Anybody Seen My Baby - (Pos. 3:27) - [www.YouTube.com] ?

This one is better

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Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: May 23, 2020 19:16

"Get Off Of My Cloud" - the 1st rap song?

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: Braincapers ()
Date: May 23, 2020 19:28

Rap? It's certainly true that Mick and Keith would be familiar with reggae DJs like U Roy who'd be considered rappers these days.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: May 23, 2020 19:35

Sure they did ..... Cops and Robbers. Well, I think Mick's talking parts deserve to be called rap.
I still don't understand why they didn't put that song on Rolling Stones 2 (instead of Grown up Wrong)?
cool smiley

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: sf37 ()
Date: May 23, 2020 19:36

One might consider the bridge of “Miss You” as Mick dabbling in rap, perhaps.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: May 23, 2020 19:37

I think "Memo From Turner" is their most "rapy" tune.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: May 23, 2020 19:46

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laertisflash
I think "Memo From Turner" is their most "rapy" tune.

I can't disagree with you, but ... officially it's not a Rolling Stones song, at least the official version (I know the blootleg version, though) cool smiley

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: SomeGuy ()
Date: May 23, 2020 19:47

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laertisflash
I think "Memo From Turner" is their most "rapy" tune.

I can't disagree with you, but ... officially it's not a Rolling Stones song, at least the official version (I know the blootleg version, though) cool smiley

Freudiaanse verspreking winking smiley Freudian slip

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: May 23, 2020 19:52

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SomeGuy
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laertisflash
I think "Memo From Turner" is their most "rapy" tune.

I can't disagree with you, but ... officially it's not a Rolling Stones song, at least the official version (I know the blootleg version, though) cool smiley

Freudiaanse verspreking winking smiley Freudian slip

It's corona time, so you are forgiven spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: JordyLicks96 ()
Date: May 23, 2020 20:47

These are the Stones tunes I could think of at the top of my head where Mick has dabbled in a hip-hop/rap vocal style:

Cops and Robbers
Memo From Turner (Solo)
Miss You
Shattered
Too Much Blood
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Gunface

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: May 23, 2020 20:55

I'd add Saint Of Me to the dabbles in rap list.
I said a yeah.. oh yeah cool smiley

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: SomeGuy ()
Date: May 23, 2020 21:08

Not every spoken word thingy is rap, or else Patti Smith and Jim Morrison would have been rappers also smiling smiley
Just saying.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Date: May 23, 2020 21:27

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georgie48
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laertisflash
I think "Memo From Turner" is their most "rapy" tune.

I can't disagree with you, but ... officially it's not a Rolling Stones song, at least the official version (I know the blootleg version, though) cool smiley

There is definitely some "talk-singing" on the Stones's officially released version, too smiling smiley

[youtu.be]

Re: Rap and the Stones
Date: May 23, 2020 21:29

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JordyLicks96
These are the Stones tunes I could think of at the top of my head where Mick has dabbled in a hip-hop/rap vocal style:

Cops and Robbers
Memo From Turner (Solo)
Miss You
Shattered
Too Much Blood
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Gunface

Dance pt 1 also deserves a mention?

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: May 23, 2020 21:35

England Lost comes to mind

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 23, 2020 21:39

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Irix
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Taylor1

Have the Stones ever done rap music.

Anybody Seen My Baby - (Pos. 3:27) - [www.YouTube.com] ?

You're counting a sample as the Stones doing rap!? HA HA! That's funny.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: SomeGuy ()
Date: May 23, 2020 22:19

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DandelionPowderman
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georgie48
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laertisflash
I think "Memo From Turner" is their most "rapy" tune.

I can't disagree with you, but ... officially it's not a Rolling Stones song, at least the official version (I know the blootleg version, though) cool smiley

There is definitely some "talk-singing" on the Stones's officially released version, too smiling smiley

[youtu.be]

One could argue how 'officially released' the Metamorphosis album is. And the fact that Memo is on it doesn't necessarily make it a Rolling Stones song, in my opinion. Apparently a lot of the songs don't feature the band, even.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Date: May 23, 2020 22:36

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SomeGuy
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georgie48
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laertisflash
I think "Memo From Turner" is their most "rapy" tune.

I can't disagree with you, but ... officially it's not a Rolling Stones song, at least the official version (I know the blootleg version, though) cool smiley

There is definitely some "talk-singing" on the Stones's officially released version, too smiling smiley

[youtu.be]

One could argue how 'officially released' the Metamorphosis album is. And the fact that Memo is on it doesn't necessarily make it a Rolling Stones song, in my opinion. Apparently a lot of the songs don't feature the band, even.

It's the Stones, only with Al Kooper instead of Mick Taylor. And it's on a released album, as "officially released" as Hot Rocks is.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: SomeGuy ()
Date: May 23, 2020 23:05

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DandelionPowderman
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SomeGuy
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DandelionPowderman
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georgie48
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laertisflash
I think "Memo From Turner" is their most "rapy" tune.

I can't disagree with you, but ... officially it's not a Rolling Stones song, at least the official version (I know the blootleg version, though) cool smiley

There is definitely some "talk-singing" on the Stones's officially released version, too smiling smiley

[youtu.be]

One could argue how 'officially released' the Metamorphosis album is. And the fact that Memo is on it doesn't necessarily make it a Rolling Stones song, in my opinion. Apparently a lot of the songs don't feature the band, even.

It's the Stones, only with Al Kooper instead of Mick Taylor. And it's on a released album, as "officially released" as Hot Rocks is.

It also lacks Keith and perhaps Charlie. To me the term 'officially released Stones version' doesn't quite convey the fact that Metamorphosis was not sanctioned by the band and was simply a cashgrab by the then-already ousted Allen Klein, of whom we all know the history of. I'm pretty sure if you'd confront Mick or Keith with a term like 'the version that you officially released in '75' would most certainly raise their eyebrows smiling smiley

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 23, 2020 23:13

:30 in to this version of Biz Markie's One Two is the sample in Anybody Seen My Baby.




Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: May 23, 2020 23:24

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DandelionPowderman
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JordyLicks96
These are the Stones tunes I could think of at the top of my head where Mick has dabbled in a hip-hop/rap vocal style:

Cops and Robbers
Memo From Turner (Solo)
Miss You
Shattered
Too Much Blood
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Gunface

Dance pt 1 also deserves a mention?

Slave

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: May 23, 2020 23:53

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SomeGuy
Not every spoken word thingy is rap, or else Patti Smith and Jim Morrison would have been rappers also smiling smiley
Just saying.

Lou Reed was the Original Wrapper!

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: May 24, 2020 00:03

Please, don't give them any ideas.

thanks
jb

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 24, 2020 00:20

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GasLightStreet

Biz Markie's One Two is the sample in Anybody Seen My Baby.

You're right: [Music.Apple.com] - and it's from his EP in 1986 - [www.Discogs.com] . Strange that he's (Marcel Hall) not mentioned in the B2B-Credits ....


(Btw: ABBA is clearly mentioned in the Credits of Madonna's 'Hung up' and Kraftwerk is clearly mentioned in the Credits of Coldplay's 'Talk', although they're just Samples.)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-24 01:05 by Irix.

Re: Rap and the Stones
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: May 24, 2020 00:36

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jbwelda
Please, don't give them any ideas.

thanks
jb

+1 thumbs up

HMN
StonesCave

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