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donvis
He certainly ruined IORR at the Aragon Ballroom Chicago 2002!!!!! Ever since then, I refuse to listen to U2. And I’m sure most people who were there will agree with me !!!!
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donvis
He certainly ruined IORR at the Aragon Ballroom Chicago 2002!!!!! Ever since then, I refuse to listen to U2. And I’m sure most people who were there will agree with me !!!!
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stickyfingers101
U2 - Some songs good, many not good....most in the last 25+ years fall in the latter, IMO
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Hairball
Their first few albums were good, saw them at US 83 Festival and they were fantastic, their last good song was In Gods Country in '87 (still have 12" single).
Not long after that they began to suck, then they eventually turned into complete crap, can't listen to them anymore, end of story.
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Hairball
Their first few albums were good, saw them at US 83 Festival and they were fantastic, their last good song was In Gods Country in '87 (still have 12" single).
Not long after that they began to suck, then they eventually turned into complete crap, can't listen to them anymore, end of story.
why don't you tell us how you really feel, haha.
the stones may have invented the stadium rock thing but u2 certainly refined it. where do you think the stones got the idea for the b stage? u2 did that around 1990, the zoo tv tour. cut me a little slack on the exact date but it was before voodoo lounge.
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GasLightStreet
Whoever doesn't like U2 and Bono etc, fine - but at least accept and acknowledge the fact that U2've had a HUGE influence on stadium and arena touring (staging and sound) and it's partly due to the Stones and who they both have used for staging and technology. Which U2 gratefully has acknowledged over the years.
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MadMax
MSG in the early 80's??
What? 69, 72, 75 and then 97-98, 02-03, 05-06 right? Did he mean Meadowlands?
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bitusa2012
Do I recall reading once upon a time that The Stones were “responsible” for “teaching” U2 about blues and the roots of rock, so to speak, and that this teaching was why/how U2 recorded Rattle and Hum?
Rod
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Hairball
Their first few albums were good, saw them at US 83 Festival and they were fantastic, their last good song was In Gods Country in '87 (still have 12" single).
Not long after that they began to suck, then they eventually turned into complete crap, can't listen to them anymore, end of story.
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GasLightStreet
Whoever doesn't like U2 and Bono etc, fine - but at least accept and acknowledge the fact that U2've had a HUGE influence on stadium and arena touring (staging and sound) and it's partly due to the Stones and who they both have used for staging and technology. Which U2 gratefully has acknowledged over the years.
No one here denies that, I don't think. But this is all about the packaging, not the music. Also, modern stage presentation and all is due a lot to acts like Alice Cooper for instance, who did use visual trickery, screens and such, in the 70s.
The other thing is, a lot of people don't realize that U2 is, essentially, a gospel group. Everyone is free to enjoy what they want, but for me, no thanks.
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GasLightStreet
Whoever doesn't like U2 and Bono etc, fine - but at least accept and acknowledge the fact that U2've had a HUGE influence on stadium and arena touring (staging and sound) and it's partly due to the Stones and who they both have used for staging and technology. Which U2 gratefully has acknowledged over the years.
No one here denies that, I don't think. But this is all about the packaging, not the music. Also, modern stage presentation and all is due a lot to acts like Alice Cooper for instance, who did use visual trickery, screens and such, in the 70s.
The other thing is, a lot of people don't realize that U2 is, essentially, a gospel group. Everyone is free to enjoy what they want, but for me, no thanks.
I would say Pink Floyd have always been the ultimate pioneers in regards to how we experience concerts (especially arenas) - including staging, sound, etc.
From the beginnings in the '60's with their projected psychedelic imagery, to large floating puppets, props, and quadrophonic sound in the '70's, and probably the first MASSIVE screen to project imagery with The Wall tour in '80/81 - the wall itself being screen where state of the art visuals and animation were projected throughout the show. Without Pink Floyd, I seriously doubt U2, the Stones, or any band would have been doing what they've done throughout the years - maybe some of it, but to a much lesser degree.
"The Wall show remains a milestone in rock history though and there's no point in denying it. Never again will one be able
to accept the technical clumsiness, distorted sound and meagre visuals of most arena rock concerts as inevitable.
The Wall show will be the touchstone against which all future rock spectacles must be measured." - New York Times, 1980
Having attended two of those show in L.A., 1980, I can confirm that Roger Waters' concepts both visually and musically raised the bar and set the standard with that tour,
and it should be of no surprise that Mark Fisher (previously mentioned) was the collaborator/set designer of the entire production.
From Roger Waters in an Ultimate Classic Rock article titled "How Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’ Tour Reinvented the Rock Concert"
Roger Waters: “I always knew it would be a multi-faceted project — a record, followed by shows in just a few cities and then a movie. It couldn’t possibly travel because of the sheer expense of getting this thing to move. It was miles ahead of anything that had been done in rock ’n ’roll and the amount of effort that went into every single detail was unheard of. It was very f—ing difficult to do but we had some very good people on board who made it happen.”
One of those “very good people” was set designer Mark Fisher, who began working with Waters on the concept for the stage show during the recording of The Wall. His production involved 420 cardboard bricks that, over the course of the first half of the show, would create a wall measuring 31-feet high and 160-feet wide in front of the band.
More > How Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' Tour Reinvented the Rock Concert
Ultimately, Pink Floyd set the standard, while the Stones, U2, and all other bands carried the torch - gotta give credit where credit is due.
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bitusa2012
Do I recall reading once upon a time that The Stones were “responsible” for “teaching” U2 about blues and the roots of rock, so to speak, and that this teaching was why/how U2 recorded Rattle and Hum?
Rod
Yes, I remember reading something like that, U2 wanted to do their own tribute to Exile by making a double LP mixing american styles: gospel, country, blues ... which was quite well done do my taste.
In fact, one of my first introduction to the Stones was through Rattle and Hum when U2 sang bit of Ruby Tuesday and Sympathy in a middle of one one their own song. I do not know which one ...
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GasLightStreet
Whoever doesn't like U2 and Bono etc, fine - but at least accept and acknowledge the fact that U2've had a HUGE influence on stadium and arena touring (staging and sound) and it's partly due to the Stones and who they both have used for staging and technology. Which U2 gratefully has acknowledged over the years.
No one here denies that, I don't think. But this is all about the packaging, not the music. Also, modern stage presentation and all is due a lot to acts like Alice Cooper for instance, who did use visual trickery, screens and such, in the 70s.
The other thing is, a lot of people don't realize that U2 is, essentially, a gospel group. Everyone is free to enjoy what they want, but for me, no thanks.
I would say Pink Floyd have always been the ultimate pioneers in regards to how we experience concerts (especially arenas) - including staging, sound, etc.
From the beginnings in the '60's with their projected psychedelic imagery, to large floating puppets, props, and quadrophonic sound in the '70's, and probably the first MASSIVE screen to project imagery with The Wall tour in '80/81 - the wall itself being screen where state of the art visuals and animation were projected throughout the show. Without Pink Floyd, I seriously doubt U2, the Stones, or any band would have been doing what they've done throughout the years - maybe some of it, but to a much lesser degree.
"The Wall show remains a milestone in rock history though and there's no point in denying it. Never again will one be able
to accept the technical clumsiness, distorted sound and meagre visuals of most arena rock concerts as inevitable.
The Wall show will be the touchstone against which all future rock spectacles must be measured." - New York Times, 1980
Having attended two of those show in L.A., 1980, I can confirm that Roger Waters' concepts both visually and musically raised the bar and set the standard with that tour,
and it should be of no surprise that Mark Fisher (previously mentioned) was the collaborator/set designer of the entire production.
From Roger Waters in an Ultimate Classic Rock article titled "How Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’ Tour Reinvented the Rock Concert"
Roger Waters: “I always knew it would be a multi-faceted project — a record, followed by shows in just a few cities and then a movie. It couldn’t possibly travel because of the sheer expense of getting this thing to move. It was miles ahead of anything that had been done in rock ’n ’roll and the amount of effort that went into every single detail was unheard of. It was very f—ing difficult to do but we had some very good people on board who made it happen.”
One of those “very good people” was set designer Mark Fisher, who began working with Waters on the concept for the stage show during the recording of The Wall. His production involved 420 cardboard bricks that, over the course of the first half of the show, would create a wall measuring 31-feet high and 160-feet wide in front of the band.
More > How Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' Tour Reinvented the Rock Concert
Ultimately, Pink Floyd set the standard, while the Stones, U2, and all other bands carried the torch - gotta give credit where credit is due.
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jbwelda
That guy really thinks a lot of himself, that's for sure.
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crholmstrom
I don't know why the hate. Bono said nice things about the Stones in the article & the letter was written as a fan. I prefer him when he doesn't talk but he is a great singer. The recent Joshua Tree tour was absolutely stunning & the 360 tour was just as good.
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Hairball
Yeah that's been around forever - see Nick Mason's reaction:
"You could probably try it with other records and other films...maybe Ben Hur and The Wall would work"....> Wizard