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Re: Question on Living in a Ghost Town
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 5, 2025 19:45

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monkeymantoo

Has anyone encountered the same issue?

Those who have the physical CD of 'Ghost Town' could check if there's CD-Text:

Windows 7/8/10/11 Media Player with the plug-in 'WMPCDText' - [BMproductions.Fixnum.org]

Apple Mac via the Terminal command: drutil cdtext

Debian Linux: install the icedax package - [Packages.Debian.org] - and then run the command: cdda2wav -J -v titles -D /dev/sr0

CD-Text displays the artist, the album name as well as the track names.

Re: Question on Living in a Ghost Town
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: May 5, 2025 20:25

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Big Al
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daniel t
Can't believe someone still listening to Ghost Town...


Other than at Hyde Park in 2022, I don’t think I’ve listened to the single since 2020, after downloading it. I didn’t particularly like the song then, and I certainly wouldn’t purposely listen to it, today.

i listen to it a couple times a month at the end of hackney diamonds

and i like it okay and all but couldn't see myself pulling out the vinyl single of it and playing it as often it's just because it's at the end of hackney diamonds

personally prefer the live version of it myself

Re: Question on Living in a Ghost Town
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: May 6, 2025 16:02

monkeymantoo: Here the same




Re: Question on Living in a Ghost Town
Posted by: monkeymantoo ()
Date: May 6, 2025 17:20

There must be others but I have not seen this mix up before!

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Posted by: Valeswood ()
Date: May 7, 2025 19:08

I have the same message on my windows media player.

Re: Question on Living in a Ghost Town
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 7, 2025 22:36

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monkeymantoo
When I play my CD single, it plays "Living in a Ghost Town" but displays the title as "Jar of Hearts" and the artist as "Christina Perri". Has anyone encountered the same issue? Any explanations welcome

In the past there have been quite a few CDs that had erroneous information auto added. It's easy to fix, though. I haven't used wifi with my PC since 2021 so when I got the LIAGT CD single I entered the info manually.

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: May 7, 2025 22:43

Covid was a tough cookie - especially with kids around and the lock downs. So for me personally Ghost Town was a relief. I was really excited and listened to it many times. The song is ok but it means a lot - at least to me.

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 8, 2025 01:51

I have LIAGT in regular rotation. It's a great song. It certainly fits HACKNEY DIAMONDS as a bonus track since it's from the same sessions as the two Charlie songs.

What, do people that live in NYC not listen to Hot Stuff because of the city deficit in 1975 or When The Whip Comes Down because what it's about (it doesn't mention the blackout)? Should they not like Midnight Rambler because it reminds them of how Mick did not write about Son Of Sam?

Why is something being dated just because of "something" other than keyboards - a good song is a good song.

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Date: May 8, 2025 10:44

A very good song that worked even better in concert, imo. It has that «stealthy» groove that Out Of Control has.

On the 2022 Euro-tour in Stockholm they played both thumbs up

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Posted by: angee ()
Date: May 8, 2025 20:36

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DandelionPowderman
A very good song that worked even better in concert, imo. It has that «stealthy» groove that Out Of Control has.

On the 2022 Euro-tour in Stockholm they played both thumbs up

I really like the song and the videos that go with it, along with OOC. I enjoy the groove, the historical resonance, and the lyrics
are better than those in much of their recent work, imo. cool smiley

~"Love is Strong"~

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Posted by: tomcat2006 ()
Date: May 14, 2025 17:55

That song was a winner

Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Date: September 26, 2025 11:19

Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic

The lawsuit, filed in the Commercial Court No. 19 of Madrid, claims that Mick Jagger and Keith Richards copied elements from two songs by Angelslang.


26/09/2025
Updated at 06:51h

The leader of the Spanish band Angelslang, Sergio García Fernández, has filed a lawsuit against the Rolling Stones for the alleged unauthorized use of two of his songs to create Living in a Ghost Town, the track that the British band released in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic in April 2020. It was presented as a song “composed by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, created and recorded in Los Angeles and London during lockdown.” The track, a blues-rock number with reggae influences accompanied by a COVID-themed video, reached number 3 on the Hot Rock & Alternative Songs chart in May of that year.

Fernández, an Argentine musician based in Madrid, filed the copyright infringement lawsuit at Commercial Court No. 19 of the capital (Ordinary Procedure 489/2025), specifically against Michael Phillip Jagger (whose copyrights are managed by Universal Music Group, Inc, LLC) and Keith Richards (by BMG Rights Management), “following the express wish of Their Satanic Majesties that the case be tried in Spain, as they argued in their appeals filed before the New Orleans court, while at the same time admitting the existence of similarities between the songs in question,” as the composer explained to this newspaper.

Indeed, in March 2023 composer García Fernández claimed in a lawsuit filed before the federal court in New Orleans that Jagger and Richards “unlawfully appropriated many of the recognizable, key protected elements” of his 2006 song So Sorry, as well as his 2007 track Seed of God.

Fernández recounts that he sent a CD with demo versions of the tracks to Chris Jagger, Mick’s brother, whom he met in Madrid in 2013 during a performance at Café Berlín. Later, Chris wrote to him by email saying that “my songs and my style were a sound the Rolling Stones would be interested in using,” says the plaintiff, who also has other emails in which Jagger and Angelslang’s lyricist exchanged impressions about the lyrics of the songs.

But seven years later, Fernández discovered that the Stones’ Living in a Ghost Town seemed to be borrowing key features of his songs, including “the vocal melodies, chord progressions, percussion patterns, harmonica parts, electric bass lines, tempos and other musical elements” of So Sorry, and “the harmonic and chord progression and the melody” of Seed of God.

In fact, So Sorry in particular sounds quite similar to Living in a Ghost Town, but “the defendants never paid the plaintiff nor obtained authorization to use them,” his lawyers argued in New Orleans. However, Judge Eldon E. Fallon ruled that his Louisiana federal court lacked jurisdiction over Fernández’s case. In doing so, he noted that Jagger and Richards are British, Fernández lives in Spain, and the Rolling Stones “have only performed in New Orleans four times.”

“The mere fact that people in this district listen to the Rolling Stones or the alleged work does not allow this court to exercise specific jurisdiction over the defendants,” Judge Fallon wrote when dismissing the case. The judge dismissed the case “without prejudice,” which meant Fernández was free to refile “in a more appropriate venue.” The Rolling Stones’ own lawyers argued that the case should have been filed somewhere in Europe, and that is precisely what Fernández has now done with his lawsuit in Madrid courts.

The leader of Angelslang, Sergio García
Photo: Tania Sieira

“The Rolling Stones’ team argues that the similarity lies in the style, but I have an expert report prepared by a musicologist which states that fragmented plagiarism has occurred, consisting of copying several separate parts of the composition, which is covered by the Intellectual Property Law,” Fernández explains. He has even speculated that “perhaps the Stones merged the two songs using AI, created a hybrid, and then played over it.”

Fernández adds that, besides that first meeting with Chris Jagger, he was about to take part in a tribute event to a visual artist alongside the Rolling Stones in 2014. The event was canceled due to the sudden suicide of Mick’s girlfriend, fashion designer L’Wren Scott, but both bands’ teams had already exchanged information and material about their work and songs, meaning there would have been not one but two contacts with the immediate circle of the famous British group.

Since Fernández took this matter to court, he claims to have “suffered digital harassment and hacking of several devices,” which he does not yet want to discuss in detail “so as not to interfere with case management.” But he says they have caused him physical and mental strain corroborated by medical reports, and he has even written a will stating that if something happens to him, his relatives and his lawyers will have the power to continue with the lawsuit.

ABC has contacted both Universal Music Group, Inc, LLC and BMG Rights Management, but they declined to comment on this information.

The Stones’ version (no pun intended)

At the time, the four Rolling Stones members gave their account of how Living in a Ghost Town came about.
“The Stones were recording new material in the studio before quarantine, and there was a song that we thought had a special resonance given the circumstances we were all living through. We worked on it in isolation. And here it is, it’s called Living in a Ghost Town, I hope you like it,” said Mick Jagger.

“To sum up,” added Keith Richards, “we recorded the song a year ago in Los Angeles for our new album, a project we’re still working on. Then the shit hit the fan for all of us, and Mick and I decided the song should come out right away, and here it is: Living in a Ghost Town.”

The late Charlie Watts said about the track: “I enjoyed working on this song. I think it captures the general mood and I trust that people who hear it will agree,” while Ronnie Wood described it as “a captivating tune.”


The leader of the band Angelslang



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Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Date: September 26, 2025 11:23

Again?

Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: September 26, 2025 12:15









i hear similarity between these two

time for the stones to file a lawsuit of there ownwinking smiley

(also this band released a very clear rip off of htw without crediting mick or keith)

Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: September 26, 2025 12:40

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DandelionPowderman

Again?

It started already in March 2023 - [iorr.org] , [Billboard.com] - [Archive.ph] .

Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: September 26, 2025 12:43

Well, So Sorry indeed sounds awfully close to Ghost Town....Could be they have a case.

Mathijs

Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Date: September 26, 2025 14:29

I think it depends on which band people are fan of.

Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: September 27, 2025 00:59

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Mathijs
Well, So Sorry indeed sounds awfully close to Ghost Town....Could be they have a case.

Mathijs

They should be sued for sounding horrible and doing horrific Keith impersonations with a guitar.

Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: September 27, 2025 09:25

"Later, Chris wrote to him by email saying that “my songs and my style were a sound the Rolling Stones would be interested in using"

Why would Chris Jagger write stuff like that?! Also ot makes it sound like it's something the Stones do regularly...well of course they admitted being inspired on a couple of songs on Black & Blue ;-)

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Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: September 27, 2025 11:06

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GasLightStreet
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Mathijs
Well, So Sorry indeed sounds awfully close to Ghost Town....Could be they have a case.

Mathijs

They should be sued for sounding horrible and doing horrific Keith impersonations with a guitar.

Well I liked the song. They sounded fresh, like they did with Anybody Seen My Baby.

It's a hundred times better than this sonic assault Shame Shame Shame.

Mathijs

Re: Spanish group sues the Rolling Stones for plagiarizing a song released during the pandemic
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: September 27, 2025 22:18

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Mathijs
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GasLightStreet
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Mathijs
Well, So Sorry indeed sounds awfully close to Ghost Town....Could be they have a case.

Mathijs

They should be sued for sounding horrible and doing horrific Keith impersonations with a guitar.

Well I liked the song. They sounded fresh, like they did with Anybody Seen My Baby.

It's a hundred times better than this sonic assault Shame Shame Shame.

Mathijs

Angelslang should be sued!!!

Anybody Seen My Baby was (still is) excellent, the video is fantastic, however live it's a nightmare. LIAGT is much better though. It has elements to it (in it) of Feel On Baby, which is fantastic.

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: September 27, 2025 22:26

Anybody Seen My Baby is, for me, a far better song than Living In A Ghost Town. Not only is the latter an average recording, it is a horrible reminder of those pointless lockdowns. It is, quite simply, a period I wish to forget.

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Date: September 27, 2025 22:33

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Big Al
..... it is a horrible reminder of those pointless lockdowns. It is, quite simply, a period I wish to forget....

I cannot even remember it. I hope that helps.

Re: Track Talk: Living In A Ghost Town
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: September 28, 2025 02:57

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Big Al
Anybody Seen My Baby is, for me, a far better song than Living In A Ghost Town. Not only is the latter an average recording, it is a horrible reminder of those pointless lockdowns. It is, quite simply, a period I wish to forget.

Well, ok, but the lockdowns were nothing like WW2.

LIAGT was poignant. It's a small blip in history.

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