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Personally, I'm not able to tell if something has been copied just by listening.Quote
NICOS
Just listen to the song I'm not sure who is coping who
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MelBelli
A mildly successfully stunt to generate headlines and YouTube clicks.
Nothing more.
Pure garbage.
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GasLightStreet
The Rolling Stones sued by the Rolling Stones
Yeah: for copying themselves and recycling of riffs in several cases, e.g. 1972 'Soul Survivor' -> 1983 'It Must Be Hell' and some more - [iorr.org] .
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TestifyPersonally, I'm not able to tell if something has been copied just by listening.Quote
NICOS
Just listen to the song I'm not sure who is coping who
There's a lot of music out there that looks alike, but isn't copyright infringement.
It's just funny that in the lawsuit, it refers to the chord progression, which is just ridiculous, because if there was copyright on the chord progression, then 99% of the music was copyright infringed.
If they get to the trial we'll see how it will end... of course this group refers a lot to RS in the style of their music, but they are not the only ones.
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GasLightStreet
This is hilarious. Sure it sounds similar but I find it bizarre that Mick would hear something and make something sound like someone else's song practically exactly on purpose in the information age.
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Doxa
That's what I wrote a year ago:
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So, after one year (plus one day, okay), this is how "Living In A Ghost Town" has done on Spotify:
The normal version: 25,1 million streams (#24 in their all-time chart)
The Alok version: 9,7 million streams (#60)
That's together: 34,8 million streams.
That will make it #20 most streamed Stones song of all-time. The studio version of "Tumbling Dice" has 42,5m (#18) and "Street Fighting Man" 32,1m (#19) but if we count their many live versions too (we speak in millions in both of them), the last-mentioned 'beats' "Ghost Town" still.
How do we interpret this? One could go and compare that to the streams of any big name catalogue artist (The Who, Dylan, Macca, Bruce, etc.) to see that there is not even close any individual new song from them being that popular. Actually, not even the streams of their whole albums are beating it (of the mentioned, only Bruce's album barely does that). Like I've said earlier, it is is unique that such a classic act with a heavy cataloque full of masterpieces is able to produce new music that makes people actually listen it like their old classics. Spotify is good indicator for that, giving us factual evidence. "Living I A Ghost Town" still - after a year - gets almost two millions streams a month. That something close to what "Brown Sugar", "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and "Honky Tonk Women" get per month, songs hitting top ten or close. What is also noteworthy is that the streams for "Ghost Town" weren't that exceptional when it was relaesed. There weren't any huge peak in first weeks that would have disappeared when the curiosity was satisfied, as it almost everytime happens when the old legendaric heroes release new stuff (something, for example, Paul McCartney surely has just noticed, no matter how much his new album is advertised and hailed by whatever means). No, by contrast, "Living In A Ghost Town") became a steady streamer.
However, we need to still point out that the very top is not even close. I happened to write down the five most streamed songs when "Ghost Town" was released (I did it April 30th, precisely), so that is how they've done during the last year:
1. Paint It Black 136m
2. Satisfaction 91m
3. Start Me Up 78m
4. Gimme Shelter 72m
5. Sympathy For The Devil 70m
I guess I stop closer following of streaming success for "Ghost Town" now, but let's see - if fate allows - how the numbers look like this time next year.
- Doxa
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Okay, back to this moment. It's been two years from the release of "Living In A Ghost Town". Let's see what has happened on Spotify since my last update a year ago.
The normal version: 37,3 million streams (#20)
The Alok Version: 12,8 million streams (#56)
Together: 50,1 million streams
This is to say that the normal version had 12,2m streams, and Alok 3,1m streams last year. That's together 15,3m streams. A clear drop from its first year, but still clearly over one million streams a month, which is good. It is still more than the two songs in front of the normal version in the all-time list: "Tumbling Dice" 10,4m (52,9m, #18),"Street Fighting Man" 7,1m (39,2m, #19).
Now, as I had the biggest streamers listed a year ago, now the top five has managed within a year:
1.Paint It Black 150m (136m a year before, a total: 708m, #1)
2.Satisfaction 100m (91m, 490m, #2))
3.Start Me Up 83m (78m, 407m, #5)
4.Sympathy For The Devil 77m (70m, 408m, #3)
5.Gimme Shelter 71m (72m, 408m, #4)
- Doxa
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I think those are still some pretty strong numbers for Ghost!!
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Doxa
That's what I wrote a year ago:
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So, after one year (plus one day, okay), this is how "Living In A Ghost Town" has done on Spotify:
The normal version: 25,1 million streams (#24 in their all-time chart)
The Alok version: 9,7 million streams (#60)
That's together: 34,8 million streams.
That will make it #20 most streamed Stones song of all-time. The studio version of "Tumbling Dice" has 42,5m (#18) and "Street Fighting Man" 32,1m (#19) but if we count their many live versions too (we speak in millions in both of them), the last-mentioned 'beats' "Ghost Town" still.
How do we interpret this? One could go and compare that to the streams of any big name catalogue artist (The Who, Dylan, Macca, Bruce, etc.) to see that there is not even close any individual new song from them being that popular. Actually, not even the streams of their whole albums are beating it (of the mentioned, only Bruce's album barely does that). Like I've said earlier, it is is unique that such a classic act with a heavy cataloque full of masterpieces is able to produce new music that makes people actually listen it like their old classics. Spotify is good indicator for that, giving us factual evidence. "Living I A Ghost Town" still - after a year - gets almost two millions streams a month. That something close to what "Brown Sugar", "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and "Honky Tonk Women" get per month, songs hitting top ten or close. What is also noteworthy is that the streams for "Ghost Town" weren't that exceptional when it was relaesed. There weren't any huge peak in first weeks that would have disappeared when the curiosity was satisfied, as it almost everytime happens when the old legendaric heroes release new stuff (something, for example, Paul McCartney surely has just noticed, no matter how much his new album is advertised and hailed by whatever means). No, by contrast, "Living In A Ghost Town") became a steady streamer.
However, we need to still point out that the very top is not even close. I happened to write down the five most streamed songs when "Ghost Town" was released (I did it April 30th, precisely), so that is how they've done during the last year:
1. Paint It Black 136m
2. Satisfaction 91m
3. Start Me Up 78m
4. Gimme Shelter 72m
5. Sympathy For The Devil 70m
I guess I stop closer following of streaming success for "Ghost Town" now, but let's see - if fate allows - how the numbers look like this time next year.
- Doxa
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Okay, back to this moment. It's been two years from the release of "Living In A Ghost Town". Let's see what has happened on Spotify since my last update a year ago.
The normal version: 37,3 million streams (#20)
The Alok Version: 12,8 million streams (#56)
Together: 50,1 million streams
This is to say that the normal version had 12,2m streams, and Alok 3,1m streams last year. That's together 15,3m streams. A clear drop from its first year, but still clearly over one million streams a month, which is good. It is still more than the two songs in front of the normal version in the all-time list: "Tumbling Dice" 10,4m (52,9m, #18),"Street Fighting Man" 7,1m (39,2m, #19).
Now, as I had the biggest streamers listed a year ago, now the top five has managed within a year:
1.Paint It Black 150m (136m a year before, a total: 708m, #1)
2.Satisfaction 100m (91m, 490m, #2))
3.Start Me Up 83m (78m, 407m, #5)
4.Sympathy For The Devil 77m (70m, 408m, #3)
5.Gimme Shelter 71m (72m, 408m, #4)
- Doxa
Okay, since now is three years when this song was released, just out of curiosity, let's see how it has managed on Spotify.
The normal version has now 44,0 million streams and is dropped to #21, as passed by "Anybody Seen My Baby?" (and soon by "Waiting On A Friend"). The Alok version has 14,4 million streams with the same chart position #56. So that's 58,4 million streams combined.
During the last year the normal version has had 7.1m streams, while the Alok one 1.6m. So the the song was streamed 8.7 million times during the year.
Here are the streams per yer:
1.Year: 34.8m
2.Year: 15.3m
3.Year: 8.7m
Since "Ghost Town" is a pure streaming era song, it gained a lot from its novel factor, but probably now its popularity starts to sound like it actually is compared to their pre-streaming era songs. It starts to be hard for it making Top 30.
Okay, just for fun, let'see how the big tunes have done last year:
1. Paint It Black 177m (+27m compared to a year before, a total: 885m, #1)
2. Satisfaction 95m (-5m, 585m, #2)
3. Start Me Up 90m (+7m, 497m, #3)
4. Gimme Shelter 84m (+13m, 492m, #4)
5. Sympathy For The Devil 75m (-2m, 483m, #5)
The status of "Paint It Black" as the clearly most listened/popular Stones song is just getting stronger. It might reach 1 billion streams still during this calendar year. Interesting is also that "Start Me Up" is pretty close now to "Satisfaction" as a number two.
- Doxa
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Big Al
Living in a Ghost Town is the Stones’ first contemporary release in the streaming-era. Perhaps that has something to do with its comparative success to some of their older, more classic recordings. I think the track is merely ‘OK’ in my opinion, Doom and Gloom is a lot better.
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Big Al
Living in a Ghost Town is the Stones’ first contemporary release in the streaming-era. Perhaps that has something to do with its comparative success to some of their older, more classic recordings. I think the track is merely ‘OK’ in my opinion, Doom and Gloom is a lot better.
Doom And Gloom and One More Shot were also released in the streaming era, but that's knitpicking, really
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Big Al
Living in a Ghost Town is the Stones’ first contemporary release in the streaming-era. Perhaps that has something to do with its comparative success to some of their older, more classic recordings. I think the track is merely ‘OK’ in my opinion, Doom and Gloom is a lot better.
Doom And Gloom and One More Shot were also released in the streaming era, but that's knitpicking, really
Yeah, and BLUE&LONESOME with its leading singles as well (a sign of that is that all its tracks are now going down in all-time charts since the heavy peak once caused by being a brandnew release having vanished).
But I think "Ghost Town" could be a pure streaming-era release in that sense that as a stand alone release people are used to listen to it from online services, and do not own a physical or digital copy at all (people like me). So if they want to hear it, they need to stream. This is not the case with the stuff people have on records. That could probably affect on its streaming popularity compared to other tracks.
- Doxa
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Doxa
So if they want to hear it, they need to stream.
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Doxa
So if they want to hear it, they need to stream.
'Ghost Town' was no streaming-only release - it was also available physically on CD and orange & purple Vinyl as well as digital download - [www.Discogs.com] .
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Doxa
Especially if I recall right they somehow screwed it up that the physical item was released ages late or something (and thereby destroying its chances to make a better chart appearance in its first week.
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Doxa
in Germany where they only count sold copies
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Doxa
Especially if I recall right they somehow screwed it up that the physical item was released ages late or something (and thereby destroying its chances to make a better chart appearance in its first week.
When 'Ghost Town' was released in 2020, there was a pandemic with lockdowns ongoing, plus the 'Vinyl delay' and it generally takes longer to manufacture physical media than simply copying it to a server. Separate releases of the digital & physical versions can get the music faster to listeners, otherwise listeners have to wait for the release until all physical media are manufactured.Quote
Doxa
in Germany where they only count sold copies
That's not true. GfK Entertainment - [www.OffizielleCharts.de] : "Large electronics chains are taken into account as well as online shops or the small record shop around the corner. Music streams and downloads are also integrated." Competitor [www.Media-Control.de] : "The measurement is based on physical and digital sales, audio and video streams as well as radio airplay".