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Hairball
That's an interesting/odd/unorthodox way of looking at it EasterMan - it's always cool to see someone make up their own rules and break from tradition.
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EasterMan
Mick was playing lead guitar this time, it would not make any sense for Keith just to double what Mick already was playing.
Keith added some nice colouring instead, which he often does on electric as well, the difference being on an acoustic that kind of playing doesn't cut through as clearly.
Nothing wrong with Keith's playing, the alternative would've been for him to play the usual electric lead he does on this song BUT it's hard to make an electric lead guitar sound good without proper recording equipment and if they only had a simple camera setup for this recording it would make much more sense for Keith to play acoustic.
This was a nice semi-unplugged version, don't know why people are complaining,
Mick played rhythm guitar
Depends on how you define rhythm guitar. If you think the sporadic licks Ronnie was playing is lead guitar then fine. For me the person who plays the lead chords on this song is playing lead, just like I think Keith is playing lead on Start Me Up etc.
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DandelionPowderman
Not only do I think that, it is that way.
Sums my thoughts up exactly. The important thing here is what the performance was for, not the performance itself. As it was for everyone involved.Quote
mickschix
Why can't EVERYONE just enjoy seeing our Boys play LIVE to benefit a wonderful cause and appreciate how great they looked and sounded? The need to dissect and criticize blows my mind! Mick & Company blew away the rest of these acts, including dismal performances by Paul McCartney & Elton John...not that I'm glad they bombed by really, look at how polished, professional and full of life ( and HUMOR) they were!! They ALL contributed to a well orchestrated 5 minutes, more than could be said for most of the other acts...although Lizzo, Eddie Vedder, and Keith Urban all did very well. Ending with " My Prayer" was brilliant and moving. Can we try to be positive, for once!
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Hairball
That's an interesting/odd/unorthodox way of looking at it EasterMan - it's always cool to see someone make up their own rules and break from tradition.
Of course lead guitar is more of solo guitar, so you could say Mick is playing rhythm here, but since I think Keith is playing lead on this song normally I would just say Mick's part was like a rhythm style replacement for the lead part Keith is playing in concert.
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powerage78
It pains me to see keith like that, I don't have to justify that feeling to anyone.
You are free to think what you want about this performance.
But it is unfortunate that your feeling is based on ignorance and an obvious lack of knowledge.
What did you want him to do? Couldn't you see their roles in this?
Clearly, Keith's role here was to play some acoustic licks before Ronnie and Charlie entered + doing the backing vocals (which he did with buckets of charm and feel).
Jeez.
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DandelionPowderman
Not only do I think that, it is that way.
That tends to be your reasoning most times lol. Of course Mick is not playing lead guitar here but I don't think Ronnie is playing 100% lead guitar either so with saying Mick was playing lead I mostly meant like in leading the song forward.
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DandelionPowderman
Not only do I think that, it is that way.
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Not only do I think that, it is that way.
Sheesh. So much time and energy spent 'correcting' people...
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powerage78
You are right.
Awesome version.
Keith is almost inaudible and underemployed, and what I regret exactly is that we grant him this minor role.
I'm not the one saying that on this board, this version is 90% Mick. How much for Keith ?
But if you are fine with that, and even love this performance, that's great.
I find it sad for Keith, but you are right, I am ignorant.
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powerage78
It pains me to see keith like that, I don't have to justify that feeling to anyone.
You are free to think what you want about this performance.
But it is unfortunate that your feeling is based on ignorance and an obvious lack of knowledge.
What did you want him to do? Couldn't you see their roles in this?
Clearly, Keith's role here was to play some acoustic licks before Ronnie and Charlie entered + doing the backing vocals (which he did with buckets of charm and feel).
Jeez.
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mickschix
Why can't EVERYONE just enjoy seeing our Boys play LIVE to benefit a wonderful cause and appreciate how great they looked and sounded? The need to dissect and criticize blows my mind! Mick & Company blew away the rest of these acts, including dismal performances by Paul McCartney & Elton John...not that I'm glad they bombed but really, look at how polished, professional and full of life ( and HUMOR) they were!! They ALL contributed to a well orchestrated 6 minutes, more than could be said for most of the other acts...although Lizzo, Eddie Vedder, and Keith Urban all did very well. Ending with " My Prayer" was brilliant and moving. Can we try to be positive, for once!
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DandelionPowderman
Not only do I think that, it is that way.
Sheesh. So much time and energy spent 'correcting' people...
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Not only do I think that, it is that way.
Sheesh. So much time and energy spent 'correcting' people...
Yeah, let's drench this board with fake news, shall we? FFS.
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mickschix
Why can't EVERYONE just enjoy seeing our Boys play LIVE to benefit a wonderful cause and appreciate how great they looked and sounded? The need to dissect and criticize blows my mind! Mick & Company blew away the rest of these acts, including dismal performances by Paul McCartney & Elton John...not that I'm glad they bombed but really, look at how polished, professional and full of life ( and HUMOR) they were!! They ALL contributed to a well orchestrated 6 minutes, more than could be said for most of the other acts...although Lizzo, Eddie Vedder, and Keith Urban all did very well. Ending with " My Prayer" was brilliant and moving. Can we try to be positive, for once!
I agree.
I thought McCartney was dreadfully bad....Elton John was OK once it got going.
Ed Vedder's voice was great, but he needed to turn down the organ...or find something to play w/ a guitar. Too much organ.
I thought the Stones were gonna do "Salt of the Earth" when I saw Mick w/ the acoustic....."bummed" they didn't do it, but YCAGWYW was great.
it's nice to be talking about the Stones again and not this f'n virus.
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Pie1
Can anyone make out what book that is on Keith's coffee-table (or is that a trunk ?) ?
The keyboard is the first instrument to come in, I think Mick is playing along to that +drums and bass, Ronnie and Keith are playing to the same with Mick's part added.
Yeah the book is - "The Brian Jones contributions to the Rolling Stones (Vol 1)".
Vol 2 and 3 will be out next year....
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Bungo
My thoughts on the Stones' performance :
I didn't "get" that particular song choice At all.
Mick carried the show with a good performance and great hair color.
Not sure that Keith was in to this at all. Reminded me of old lip-synch TV performances from the 60's.
Ronnie was better than I expected.
Charlie definitely air drummed it. For technical reason's I'm sure.
Now let's get that record out mates.
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mikehat
Charlie was not miming or air drumming.
The drumsticks had sensor/trigger technology.
You hit a surface and it triggers a drum sound.
These aren't the one's he used, but this video gives you an idea of the Technology involved...
[www.youtube.com]
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keithsman
It's a bit hard on Keith to bash him over his playing here, Keith has had no interest in playing this song live since 82'
With the half a second time delay between continents he couldn't have played it with gousto without ruining the whole thing anyway