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OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: dmay ()
Date: March 4, 2020 19:07

Interesting read on updating/selling Elvis Presley as a brand/product. Makes me wonder if this is the future of the Stones and other icons of the rock era as age and health take a toll on their performing abilities.

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Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: March 4, 2020 21:40

I don't really think so. For younger kids, teens, it's more the singer than the song they like. Generally they don't really care about artists aged 40+ and they don't care about singers who died about 50 years ago. They might like a remix like Junkie XL's A Little Less Conversation though but I don't think it's going to make them massive Elvis fans.

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 4, 2020 21:49

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Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: TornAndFried ()
Date: March 4, 2020 22:58

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Rockman
..well Dirty Dave the bikie tells me
that got some pretty good Viagra now days …

What does this nonsense mean? Is English not your first language?



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Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 5, 2020 02:03

…. awwww yeah I spelt biker & they incorrectly ….



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: SKILLS ()
Date: March 5, 2020 05:39

I found the article very interesting, breaking down the revenue sources and opportunities for the future.

Seeing that Graceland is the bedrock of his legacy (I see the tweets from Priscilla advertising the Southern Experience, based around the Guesthouse Accommodation they've constructed), the future looks solid.

The recorded work has not been marketed at youngsters since long before his passing, to get Gen-Z interested would be difficult, it's fragmented and tribal out there these days, almost like the late 70's with so many different forms of music emerging

Sinatra is all but unknown to anyone under 30, Bing Crosby... who? a kid would say. 2 of the biggest recording stars ever.

I think animating Elvis is interesting, I myself would explore an Elvis App, perhaps a facsimile of his voice, giving you clothing advice - Elvis knows if it's cool, sort of experience, Elvis as an advisor

Lots of room in the digital space.

But i would center the focus on young Elvis 1954 - 1958, after that it's just soundtracks...

You could then introduce Elvis at 1968 til 1973



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Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: March 5, 2020 06:48

wat dont rise must be dug up

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: StonedAsiaExile ()
Date: March 5, 2020 09:37

Anyone here ever see Elvis live?

I saw him twice, both in Greensboro, NC. in 1976 and 1977. I had tix for his upcoming tour but he went on to RnR Heaven.

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: Meise ()
Date: March 5, 2020 15:30

Whenever he'll return from his home planet ... he will, definitely :-)

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: dmay ()
Date: March 5, 2020 18:25

Saw him twice back in the 70s at the (then) Baltimore Civic Center and the Cap Center in Largo, Md. The shows were billed as one hour with Elvis. That's exactly what we got. He was on stage for 60 minutes, give or take a minute or two, then gone with the famous line, "Elvis has left the building" being beamed into the auditorium. The concert/show was not anything you'd remember. The point, as I would take it as from his people/management, was you attended an Elvis concert. The evening at both shows opened with a lame standup comedian, followed by some instrumental stuff from the TCB band and the backup singers coming in to sing a few numbers. Then, the lights dimmed and Presley appeared. They didn't have him on the overhead monitors so all you saw was whatever you could see of him depending on where you were seated in the venues.

I also saw him in 1969 in Oklahoma while stationed there in the service. This was his comeback tour when he was still lean and mean. I had persuaded some friends to go to the show with me. They weren't big on Elvis, but thought it would be fun and interesting. We didn't hear much of the show as the audience was comprised mostly of women who screamed and hollered throughout the show just like the young girls did when the Beatles were fab. The vibe given off by this audience I summed up to my friends as "Man, it was like being in the world's biggest multiple orgasm", such was the energy being given off by the women there. They were rockin' and rollin' in their seats. I can say I've never attended a concert like this since where the audience became one gigantic orgasmic thing filling the air with, as best as I can phrase it, heat, lust and desire. Such was the power of Elvis' return to the concert stage at that time. Alas, five years later, it had become Vegas like for his tours.

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: Javadave ()
Date: March 5, 2020 18:46

Sinatra is all but unknown to anyone under 30, Bing Crosby... who? a kid would say. 2 of the biggest recording stars ever.<<<<<

This is false. Sinatra's records have been selling very strongly to the 20-25 year old crowd. Bing's records are selling too. As a record dealer, I've had to rethink my parameters for buying and selling these and other Jazz & Pop vocalists whose sales had languished for years. The Baby Boomers and Gen-Xers largely rejected these artists as the too square music of the Greatest Generation. For years, there was a glut of those titles and they didn't sell much. Those times have changed. Perhaps it has something to do with all the American Idol-type shows, but the crooners are definitely a thing with young hipsters.

As for Elvis, he is too iconic to be forgotten. He's internationally branded, like Bob Marley, the Stones, Hendrix, James Brown. Kids will still be hearing these artists and looking at their imagery long after we're all gone.

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: TornAndFried ()
Date: March 5, 2020 19:18

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Javadave

As for Elvis, he is too iconic to be forgotten. He's internationally branded, like Bob Marley, the Stones, Hendrix, James Brown. Kids will still be hearing these artists and looking at their imagery long after we're all gone.

I think differently. I can't imagine more than just a few musicians interested in any of these artists in the future. We are still connected to them because they were part of our contemporary culture. By 2050 nearly every fan and musician from the rock era will be dead and there will be new forms of music and entertainment coming up to engage young people. Elvis Presley will be forgotten. The Stones, Dylan, Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Bob Marley, Michael Jackson, Madonna will all be forgotten. Only The Beatles will be mentioned and even that will be minimal. Soon it will be history.



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Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: Javadave ()
Date: March 5, 2020 19:34

If the songs are still being performed, the interest will still be there. Musicians and fans will still dig out influential music. For instance, if you become interested in Delta Blues, you're going to seek out Charlie Patton, Son House, Robert Johnson, Mississippi Fred McDowell, etc. The same in all other genres, including Pop and it's sub-genres like Rock. Music has a way of perpetuating itself. A good riff, a catchy lyric, a hook. 20th Century music will not be forgotten that quickly.

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: buttons67 ()
Date: March 6, 2020 03:41

everything fades with time, maybe the youtube technology and modern inventions and some good branding will keep these legends in the limelight longer than previous generations would, but eventually, and as time passes few will even know who elvis, the stones, beatles and hendrix even were.

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: March 6, 2020 04:02

Everything old becomes new again, its just a matter of time and marketing

jb

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 6, 2020 04:25

It's like asking if Frank Sinatra can rise again. No.

Always be an interesting curiosity I'm sure in the future, but no way. Even the Beatles will ultimately fade away.

Re: OT: Can Elvis rise again?
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: March 6, 2020 13:00

I do think the Stones tongue logo will be eternally cool for kids to wear.



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