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keefriff99We're doing no better in the USA. Zero leadership at the top, but a lot of governors and mayors are stepping up big-time.Quote
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Nate
Europe apparently about to close borders to all foreign travel.
Nate
Wise decision... coming a month too late. How many lives the EU spirit of indecision will have costed? 10000?
Actually it's because we have no federal public health system in the US -- the NY Times had an excellent article about how people have been predicting a crisis like this for decades for this reason -- all the power is at the local level, not even the State level. Governors and mayors, etc are acting because they are the ones who have the power to act. Our system sucks and has for, in the words of the NY Times (yesterday, look it up) for centuries.
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Nate
I live in the U.K. and honestly the policy here is disgusting and pathetic.
They have today announced no one should be socially interacting but they keep schools and social places such as bars,restaurants,cinemas etc open contradictory to say the least.It is really very simple they want schools to remain open so parents don’t have to take time out from work therefore keeping the economy going for another week or two until they are forced to close them.They now ask people to not visit bars,restaurants cinemas etc but they don’t ask these establishments to close reason being that if they did then the government would be on the hook for bailing them out financially.
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That's a total copout. Bureaucracies are unfortunately a fact of life in modern governments...the failure to wrangle those bureaucracies and provide effective leadership goes much higher.Quote
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keefriff99We're doing no better in the USA. Zero leadership at the top, but a lot of governors and mayors are stepping up big-time.Quote
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Nate
Europe apparently about to close borders to all foreign travel.
Nate
Wise decision... coming a month too late. How many lives the EU spirit of indecision will have costed? 10000?
Actually it's because we have no federal public health system in the US -- the NY Times had an excellent article about how people have been predicting a crisis like this for decades for this reason -- all the power is at the local level, not even the State level. Governors and mayors, etc are acting because they are the ones who have the power to act. Our system sucks and has for, in the words of the NY Times (yesterday, look it up) for centuries.
The CDC shoulders the most blame they have been around since 1946 it has turned into huge bureaucracy. Many companies all over the world dream of becoming a One Billion firm in assets through sales , innovation and just plain hard work. The US congress approves an average annual budget of 11 1/2 Billion dollars with 10,000 employees they also get millions in private donations through the CDC foundation a 501(c)(3)public charity. They get all this money for Research and Developement without any pressure to manufacture a product,bring to market,or show a profit,none. They have had 74 years to game plan for just this scenario.
They could have partnered with FEMA another huge bureaucracy with an annual budget of 28 Billion they have thousands of trailers they could have set up for testing. I have a friend who works at the CDC and she says the the turf wars and petty bullshit that goes inside and between the different other government agencies is absolutely sickening. The funding is top priority then the Mission statement.
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Nate
Unfortunately now the real cost of underfunding in the NHS is going to be exposed like never before.I guess they can open up military bases and take over hotels etc to create extra space and beds but the frightening issue is the lack of staff and equipment.There was a report Sunday evening on BBC news from Madrid showing an elderly woman sitting on a bench outside a hospital gasping for breath after being told to go home because there was not enough space to admit her into the hospital.Sadly her husband had passed away Saturday from the virus.
I expect we will be seeing similar situations here very soon.
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keefriff99That's a total copout. Bureaucracies are unfortunately a fact of life in modern governments...the failure to wrangle those bureaucracies and provide effective leadership goes much higher.Quote
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keefriff99We're doing no better in the USA. Zero leadership at the top, but a lot of governors and mayors are stepping up big-time.Quote
dcbaQuote
Nate
Europe apparently about to close borders to all foreign travel.
Nate
Wise decision... coming a month too late. How many lives the EU spirit of indecision will have costed? 10000?
Actually it's because we have no federal public health system in the US -- the NY Times had an excellent article about how people have been predicting a crisis like this for decades for this reason -- all the power is at the local level, not even the State level. Governors and mayors, etc are acting because they are the ones who have the power to act. Our system sucks and has for, in the words of the NY Times (yesterday, look it up) for centuries.
The CDC shoulders the most blame they have been around since 1946 it has turned into huge bureaucracy. Many companies all over the world dream of becoming a One Billion firm in assets through sales , innovation and just plain hard work. The US congress approves an average annual budget of 11 1/2 Billion dollars with 10,000 employees they also get millions in private donations through the CDC foundation a 501(c)(3)public charity. They get all this money for Research and Developement without any pressure to manufacture a product,bring to market,or show a profit,none. They have had 74 years to game plan for just this scenario.
They could have partnered with FEMA another huge bureaucracy with an annual budget of 28 Billion they have thousands of trailers they could have set up for testing. I have a friend who works at the CDC and she says the the turf wars and petty bullshit that goes inside and between the different other government agencies is absolutely sickening. The funding is top priority then the Mission statement.
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JadedFaded
TO THE PROMOTERS OF THE 2020 ROLLING STONES NO FILTER TOUR: Do the right thing and cancel or postpone this tour. Money be damned! If all the major college and professional sports leagues are willing to lose tens of millions of dollars to protect the health and lives of their players and fans, so too should you protect the health and lives of the Band and the fans. Cancel or postpone this tour now![/qu
They have to postpone or cancel. It’s just a matter of time. Might be good news that they are holding off as long as they can. Tells me that maybe
they are trying to figure out if or when they can reschedule.
How ever if they do reschedule instead of postpone there will be no refunds. At least not for awhile
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The fact that the Rolling Stones have chosen to stay silent about the tour and have not made any kind of announcement yet shows how little they actually care about their fans. Even if they are unsure about what they are going to do at this point just say something FFS! They are the trendiest and most UN fan-friendly band on the planet.
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The fact that the Rolling Stones have chosen to stay silent about the tour and have not made any kind of announcement yet shows how little they actually care about their fans. Even if they are unsure about what they are going to do at this point just say something FFS! They are the trendiest and most UN fan-friendly band on the planet.
Come on man. Don't you have anything else to worry about now. They will cancel it, we all know they will cancel it, they just haven't cancelled it yet. Other artists with tours starting in May haven't cancelled, same with festivals.
The JazzFest to start in first of May is the most glaring yet to cancel/postpone. Though it is a given that they do and move it to October.Quote
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The fact that the Rolling Stones have chosen to stay silent about the tour and have not made any kind of announcement yet shows how little they actually care about their fans. Even if they are unsure about what they are going to do at this point just say something FFS! They are the trendiest and most UN fan-friendly band on the planet.
Come on man. Don't you have anything else to worry about now. They will cancel it, we all know they will cancel it, they just haven't cancelled it yet. Other artists with tours starting in May haven't cancelled, same with festivals.
I don’t have time to look as you already know so can you name those artists and festivals.
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OneHourPhotoThe JazzFest to start in first of May is the most glaring yet to cancel/postpone. Though it is a given that they do and move it to October.Quote
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TornAndFried
The fact that the Rolling Stones have chosen to stay silent about the tour and have not made any kind of announcement yet shows how little they actually care about their fans. Even if they are unsure about what they are going to do at this point just say something FFS! They are the trendiest and most UN fan-friendly band on the planet.
Come on man. Don't you have anything else to worry about now. They will cancel it, we all know they will cancel it, they just haven't cancelled it yet. Other artists with tours starting in May haven't cancelled, same with festivals.
I don’t have time to look as you already know so can you name those artists and festivals.
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OneHourPhotoThe JazzFest to start in first of May is the most glaring yet to cancel/postpone. Though it is a given that they do and move it to October.Quote
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TornAndFried
The fact that the Rolling Stones have chosen to stay silent about the tour and have not made any kind of announcement yet shows how little they actually care about their fans. Even if they are unsure about what they are going to do at this point just say something FFS! They are the trendiest and most UN fan-friendly band on the planet.
Come on man. Don't you have anything else to worry about now. They will cancel it, we all know they will cancel it, they just haven't cancelled it yet. Other artists with tours starting in May haven't cancelled, same with festivals.
I don’t have time to look as you already know so can you name those artists and festivals.
Jazz Fest is such a huge undertaking they need to take a lot of factors into consideration such as availability of hotel rooms, weather, artists schedules, etc. before they can announce a new date. But it's inevitable it will be postponed.