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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: crholmstrom ()
Date: May 17, 2020 10:44

Washington state has now recorded 1000 deaths due to COVID-19.


Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: May 17, 2020 11:26

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MisterDDDD
Curious about the thoughts from the Londoners who post here on the current state of things there and on the protest in Hyde Park today.
Hard to keep up with what's going on in all the different countries, and UK's stats aren't generally broken down and analyzed by city, but it seems the city was hard hit and is now doing much better than the rest of the UK in terms of new cases.

In looking at the video footage of the protest and arrests it seems the police there are taking things more seriously than here and shutting the protests down.
Another thing that jumped out at me watching the footage was how few masks were being worn, not by the protesters which would be expected, but by onlookers and police etc.
Are they not widely used in London?

Coronavirus: Inside the UK’s biggest anti-lockdown protest
This is the largest anti-lockdown protest yet seen in the UK, seeing around 100 people gather in London’s Hyde Park.
[www.independent.co.uk]

LONDON has been the hardest coronavirus hit area in the UK, with the capital suffering 26,113 cases to date.
However new research is showing that the lockdown is working in the city and that R is down to as little as 0.4 with only 24 new cases being reported each day.
[www.thesun.co.uk]

One hundred assorted conspiracy theorists is not a big demonstration, and as this is London, there are no gun-enthusiasts involved. There are some legitimate human rights issues about the lockdown, especially the possibilities for tracking people's movements, but from the article it sounds as though a lot of different views were represented:

"The virus is linked to the rollout of 5G phone technology" - this idea has caused several attacks on 5G masts up and down the UK. The fact that the virus exists in countries with NO 5G technology at all is ignored.

"The so called virus does not exist - it's a fraud to allow the government to control us"

"The virus does exist, but is being used as an excuse to create a police state."

...and so on and so on.

The demo was reported, but I don't think most people take it very seriously.

More in another post.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-17 11:28 by Green Lady.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: May 17, 2020 12:15

The lockdown in the big cities, particularly in London, has been difficult for people in densely populated areas, and there has been some tension over people "abusing" the things they were allowed to do. With very little open space available, parks in some areas were closed because they were "overcrowded" with people who had no gardens or other outside space. The guidance to the police and the public has never been very clear, so some police forces were stricter than others, and (this being Britain) many people were eager to report their neighbours for things they thought they should not be doing. But on the whole the lockdown has held and seems to be working, though not as well as the stricter lockdowns elsewhere.

The police in theory have huge powers to fine people and to force them into quarantine, but policing has actually been pretty relaxed. They will break up parties and large groups, and people travelling unnecessarily, like the group of men heading for the Welsh coast with camping equipment for the weekend, but they are not dishing out lots of fines. In theory we can travel further now, but holiday areas do not want city dwellers descending on them in crowds while everything is still closed.

Masks: for quite a while we were told not to rush out and panic-buy medical-grade masks: partly because they were not (at that time) thought to help that much when people were social-distancing anyway, and mostly because there was a shortage and our health workers and carers needed them. Now the lockdown is easing and more people are about, and masks are a bit easier to get, more people are using them, particularly for things like shops and public transport. But it isn't really a political issue as it seems to be in the US, and out in the open air most people still don't bother.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: May 17, 2020 15:47

[www.msn.com]


just call the police....that's what I'd do.

let the "No-Maskers" get tazed if they don't want to comply.

I am fairly neutral about cops....they can be dicks, but they are also 100% necessary.

However, they are doing a total crap job w/ this mask-thing from what I can see.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 17, 2020 15:58

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Stoneage
The American discourse here is unintelligible to me. I guess it's esoteric. It's like trying to understand American politics. I guess you have to live there to understand it.

I'll give you my observation on it, living in Louisiana: a majority of the time a lot of things are done that simply make no sense, and sometimes things rile a lot of people up for a day or two and then it's all forgotten. If you want to consider that understanding it, ha ha, that's fine.

There's a saying, "Write you congressman". I have - there is, to my knowledge, ZERO information about that working.


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Stoneage
What would be interesting to discuss on a forum like this one would be how society will look post Corona. I mean the implications of this pandemic on the (Western) society.
From cultural as well as economical aspects. How travel will change and so on. And of course how the sports- and entertainment industry will adapt to it.
But I guess that is not doable?

Delta is going to be laying off a ton of pilots by fall, some large amount like 7500, and they're retiring their "fleet" (all 18 planes) of 777's because I guess they're anticipating much less international flights.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: shadooby ()
Date: May 17, 2020 15:59

For those of you in New York City...I purchased a record from an Ebay seller in Brooklyn almost a month ago. A day or so after, they notified me they cannot complete the order because they cannot access their warehouse. I noticed they still had many items for sale and none stated anything about not being available due to Covid. When I asked about this they said that one record I bought was in said "warehouse" and all currently listed were in their possession. After about two weeks I finally left negative feedback which triggered an immediate reaction and request from seller to remove due to pandemic, which I did. I feel like they might have either sold this out from under me or didn't have the item to begin with. I also think if they are giving me the run around they deserve the negative feedback. If they legitimately have an issue with travel restrictions I can be sympathetic to that. What do you think?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-17 16:09 by shadooby.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 17, 2020 16:10

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shadooby
For those of you in New York City...I purchased a record from an Ebay seller in Brooklyn almost a month ago. A day or so after, they notified me they cannot complete the order because they cannot access their warehouse. I noticed they still had many items for sale and none stated anything about not being available due to Covid. When I asked about this they said that one record I bought was in said "warehouse" and all currently listed were in their possession. After about two weeks I finally left negative feedback which triggered an immediate reaction and request from seller to remove due to pandemic, which I did. I feel like they might have either sold this out from under me or didn't have the item to begin with. I also think if they are giving me the run around they deserve the negative feedback. What do you think?

A bit low using COVID as a reason to rip someone off. It's one thing if something was planned to be released May 8th and due to issues of personnel etc having something made and having it pushed back to the end of the month - THAT makes sense.

But to just say Oh we have to wait and then, really, it's bullshit, because Amazon keeps delivering.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: shadooby ()
Date: May 17, 2020 16:19

So Gas are you from NYC? If so would you be able to access your "warehouse" in NYC if you had one? I guess this was my main question. I am looking for input from as many as possible from NYC before I leave the negative feedback for the seller.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-17 16:21 by shadooby.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: curt ()
Date: May 17, 2020 16:22

The ‘Swedish Model’ Is a Failure, Not a Panacea

When economies around the world started grinding to a halt in an effort to stop the carnage inflicted by the coronavirus, Sweden stood out with an approach that appeared to defy the prescription of most experts. Instead of shutting down, the Swedish government opted for much milder measures. The idea looked appealing. It suggested the possibility of containing the pandemic at a much lower economic cost.

The final judgment on Sweden’s unorthodox approach cannot be rendered until the crisis moves into the history books. So far, however, the statistics suggest that the Swedish model is more disaster than panacea. If the pandemic ended today, the actions of Swedish authorities, which have so far earned the support of the population, may ultimately be viewed by future generations of Swedes as a shameful chapter in the country’s history, one that resulted in large-scale suffering and thousands of unnecessary deaths. ...

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: May 17, 2020 16:29

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shadooby
For those of you in New York City...I purchased a record from an Ebay seller in Brooklyn almost a month ago. A day or so after, they notified me they cannot complete the order because they cannot access their warehouse. I noticed they still had many items for sale and none stated anything about not being available due to Covid. When I asked about this they said that one record I bought was in said "warehouse" and all currently listed were in their possession. After about two weeks I finally left negative feedback which triggered an immediate reaction and request from seller to remove due to pandemic, which I did. I feel like they might have either sold this out from under me or didn't have the item to begin with. I also think if they are giving me the run around they deserve the negative feedback. If they legitimately have an issue with travel restrictions I can be sympathetic to that. What do you think?


Ask them how long they expect to keep you waiting before delivery - Then, if you're not happy with having to wait XXXX, ask for your money back.
Also, when you paid for it you should have been automatically been given an 'expected date of delivery' by Ebay anyway..............

In my experience, if the item doesn't arrive by then you can use the Ebay refund option unless you consent to waiting longer....................but it's up to you.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Date: May 17, 2020 17:20

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curt
The ‘Swedish Model’ Is a Failure, Not a Panacea

When economies around the world started grinding to a halt in an effort to stop the carnage inflicted by the coronavirus, Sweden stood out with an approach that appeared to defy the prescription of most experts. Instead of shutting down, the Swedish government opted for much milder measures. The idea looked appealing. It suggested the possibility of containing the pandemic at a much lower economic cost.

The final judgment on Sweden’s unorthodox approach cannot be rendered until the crisis moves into the history books. So far, however, the statistics suggest that the Swedish model is more disaster than panacea. If the pandemic ended today, the actions of Swedish authorities, which have so far earned the support of the population, may ultimately be viewed by future generations of Swedes as a shameful chapter in the country’s history, one that resulted in large-scale suffering and thousands of unnecessary deaths. ...

I'm not sure if Sweden's strategy has really "earned the support of the population", though. I know that many are critical.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: May 17, 2020 18:42

Quote
shadooby
For those of you in New York City...I purchased a record from an Ebay seller in Brooklyn almost a month ago. A day or so after, they notified me they cannot complete the order because they cannot access their warehouse. I noticed they still had many items for sale and none stated anything about not being available due to Covid. When I asked about this they said that one record I bought was in said "warehouse" and all currently listed were in their possession. After about two weeks I finally left negative feedback which triggered an immediate reaction and request from seller to remove due to pandemic, which I did. I feel like they might have either sold this out from under me or didn't have the item to begin with. I also think if they are giving me the run around they deserve the negative feedback. If they legitimately have an issue with travel restrictions I can be sympathetic to that. What do you think?

Sounds like BS to me.

The only way it isn't is if they don't own the warehouse.....

I'm not NYC but my wife's family is. They have offices & businesses....they are 100% allowed to GO to them.....they do it all the time to gather what they need to work from home

they just can't OPEN them to the public.

There is no law or restrictions in place that can stop a person from entering their own building/warehouse/business to gather their own property for personal/private use and/or work from home.

If it is in a Storage Facility, those ARE open as "essential businesses" in NYC

I would ask for clarification about "warehouse" vs. "storage facility"....and if it is the former, find out if they own it....if not, find out who does and contact them...

depending on how motivated you are, of course.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-17 18:44 by stickyfingers101.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: May 17, 2020 18:49

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shadooby
So Gas are you from NYC? If so would you be able to access your "warehouse" in NYC if you had one? I guess this was my main question. I am looking for input from as many as possible from NYC before I leave the negative feedback for the seller.

see my post above....my wife's family is there...they have offices/businesses and are 100% allowed to go to them for personal use.

they can't OPEN them to the public and/or have employees working there

same goes for the warehouse IF they have been deemed "non-essential"....

however the owner certainly has every right to go to his/her own property whenever they want.

if they own the warehouse, they can get your stuff for you.

probably the warehouse is closed, which means they have no employees working there and they can't call/email/text somebody to pick it up and mail it for them.....and, given that, they simply don't want to go pick it up themselves.....

that's my take.

ps...if their warehouse is truly closed and they cannot access it, they should've posted that there would be delays (of an unforeseen time-length) due to COVID-closures....seems lame to take your money first w/o this disclaimer..



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-17 18:55 by stickyfingers101.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: May 17, 2020 18:56

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stickyfingers101
Quote
shadooby
So Gas are you from NYC? If so would you be able to access your "warehouse" in NYC if you had one? I guess this was my main question. I am looking for input from as many as possible from NYC before I leave the negative feedback for the seller.

see my post above....my wife's family is there...they have offices/businesses and are 100% allowed to go to them for personal use.

they can't OPEN them to the public and/or have employees working there

same goes for the warehouse IF they have been deemed "non-essential"....

however the owner certainly has every right to go to his/her own property whenever they want.

if they own the warehouse, they can get your stuff for you.

probably the warehouse is closed, which means they have no employees working there and they can't call/email/text somebody to pick it up and mail it for them.....and, given that, they simply don't want to go pick it up themselves.....

that's my take.

ps...if their warehouse is truly closed and they cannot access it, they should've posted that there would be delays (for an undetermined time-length) due to COVID-closures....seems lame to take your money first w/o this disclaimer..

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 17, 2020 19:26

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shadooby
So Gas are you from NYC? If so would you be able to access your "warehouse" in NYC if you had one? I guess this was my main question. I am looking for input from as many as possible from NYC before I leave the negative feedback for the seller.

When dealing with Ebay, if they don't delivered they get bad feedback from me. In the event there is an issue it is on the seller to alert you to the issue. It is no different from any other online business that doesn't deliver. As posted, if it is a manufacturing issue there is a bit more leeway but it is on the seller to alert you.

I had an issue with an overseas shipper who was making Desert Trip knockoff shirts last year. Someone else I knew had ordered and there were spelling errors Rolling Stomes for example. I asked for money back he said he would fix, found another error on the picture, he said he would fix then sent another picture that was blurry, so I said I wanted a refund. Crickets so I initiated a refund and gave bad feedback. He complained I should have known better. Ebay refunded. Get them involved.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-17 19:31 by daspyknows.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: artedm ()
Date: May 18, 2020 00:42

video
Why Stadiums Are Incubators for Coronavirus Spread
Sports fans are longing to return to the stands, but health experts say stadiums are one of the highest-risk areas for coronavirus transmission. Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease specialist, walks us through how easily the virus could spread among the crowd

[www.wsj.com]

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: May 18, 2020 01:18

Quote
artedm
video
Why Stadiums Are Incubators for Coronavirus Spread
Sports fans are longing to return to the stands, but health experts say stadiums are one of the highest-risk areas for coronavirus transmission. Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease specialist, walks us through how easily the virus could spread among the crowd

[www.wsj.com]

whoa.

Thanks for posting.

I won't be going to a stadium anytime soon.

Go Browns!

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 18, 2020 01:44

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shadooby
So Gas are you from NYC? If so would you be able to access your "warehouse" in NYC if you had one? I guess this was my main question. I am looking for input from as many as possible from NYC before I leave the negative feedback for the seller.

No. I live across the lake from New Orleans.

Why couldn't someone access their warehouse? If you can go to a grocery store...

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 18, 2020 01:50

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daspyknows
Quote
shadooby
So Gas are you from NYC? If so would you be able to access your "warehouse" in NYC if you had one? I guess this was my main question. I am looking for input from as many as possible from NYC before I leave the negative feedback for the seller.

When dealing with Ebay, if they don't delivered they get bad feedback from me. In the event there is an issue it is on the seller to alert you to the issue. It is no different from any other online business that doesn't deliver. As posted, if it is a manufacturing issue there is a bit more leeway but it is on the seller to alert you.

I had an issue with an overseas shipper who was making Desert Trip knockoff shirts last year. Someone else I knew had ordered and there were spelling errors Rolling Stomes for example. I asked for money back he said he would fix, found another error on the picture, he said he would fix then sent another picture that was blurry, so I said I wanted a refund. Crickets so I initiated a refund and gave bad feedback. He complained I should have known better. Ebay refunded. Get them involved.

Uh - it sounds like you did know better, especially since I'm not sure how asking for your money back is you not knowing better... then the moron "fixing" it twice and then giving you a shit picture. YOU should know better!!?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Is there some unwritten amount of times to ask for your money back? What a load!

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: May 18, 2020 02:15



THE AGE ---- 18 May 2020



ROCKMAN

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 18, 2020 03:02

A few weeks ago I predicted the top 3 would be U.S., Russia and Brazil.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: May 18, 2020 03:07

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daspyknows
A few weeks ago I predicted the top 3 would be U.S., Russia and Brazil.

And UK is fourth.

Interesting collection of Heads of Government - President Trump, President Putin, President Bolsonaro and Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

--
Captain Corella
50+ Years a Fan



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-18 05:18 by CaptainCorella.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: mrjones ()
Date: May 18, 2020 03:24

Well here New Jersey the beaches are open soon!!? As of this a.m. 146,334 cases. 10,365 dead & 1272 new cases overnite. ain't going to NYC anytime soon either. Walked by train station this a.m. not 1 person waiting for NY train-nothing new. 15,000 cases in my county. Think i'm still going to keep laying low. sucks.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: May 18, 2020 04:25

Quote
Green Lady
The lockdown in the big cities, particularly in London, has been difficult for people in densely populated areas, and there has been some tension over people "abusing" the things they were allowed to do. With very little open space available, parks in some areas were closed because they were "overcrowded" with people who had no gardens or other outside space. The guidance to the police and the public has never been very clear, so some police forces were stricter than others, and (this being Britain) many people were eager to report their neighbours for things they thought they should not be doing. But on the whole the lockdown has held and seems to be working, though not as well as the stricter lockdowns elsewhere.

The police in theory have huge powers to fine people and to force them into quarantine, but policing has actually been pretty relaxed. They will break up parties and large groups, and people travelling unnecessarily, like the group of men heading for the Welsh coast with camping equipment for the weekend, but they are not dishing out lots of fines. In theory we can travel further now, but holiday areas do not want city dwellers descending on them in crowds while everything is still closed.

Masks: for quite a while we were told not to rush out and panic-buy medical-grade masks: partly because they were not (at that time) thought to help that much when people were social-distancing anyway, and mostly because there was a shortage and our health workers and carers needed them. Now the lockdown is easing and more people are about, and masks are a bit easier to get, more people are using them, particularly for things like shops and public transport. But it isn't really a political issue as it seems to be in the US, and out in the open air most people still don't bother.

Glad to hear things are doing better in the area.

I guess it was the police without masks that grabbed my attention.
Things sound pretty similar to the greater Seattle area.
Thanks for the insights...

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: May 18, 2020 05:19

Sad news out of Kamloops, BC today when a Snowbird crashed into a house.
Not a huge fan of these flyover salutes to healthcare workers/first responders.
Seems money spent on them could be better used, they tend to draw large crowds, and in places like NYC flying planes around the city still frighten many,
along with the noise which freaks animals and some humans out alike.
_________________________________________________________________________________

With video: Snowbird jet crashes into Kamloops house

A Canadian Forces Snowbird jet has crashed into a house in Kamloops.
Two jets took off from Kamloops Airport at about 11:30 a.m., bound for Comox, when one rose, then veered to the left and barrel rolled toward the ground, crashing into a house on Glenview Drive, setting the residence on fire.
The two residents of the home escaped without injury.
Witnesses saw at least one pilot eject before the plane crashed. He landed on the roof of a house on nearby Schreiner Street and was rescued by Kamloops Fire Rescue.
A witness told KTW a second person, a female, appeared to have succumbed to her injuries.
[www.kamloopsthisweek.com]


Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: crholmstrom ()
Date: May 18, 2020 05:24

Quote
MisterDDDD
Sad news out of Kamloops, BC today when a Snowbird crashed into a house.
Not a huge fan of these flyover salutes to healthcare workers/first responders.
Seems money spent on them could be better used, they tend to draw large crowds, and in places like NYC flying planes around the city still frighten many,
along with the noise which freaks animals and some humans out alike.
_________________________________________________________________________________

With video: Snowbird jet crashes into Kamloops house

A Canadian Forces Snowbird jet has crashed into a house in Kamloops.
Two jets took off from Kamloops Airport at about 11:30 a.m., bound for Comox, when one rose, then veered to the left and barrel rolled toward the ground, crashing into a house on Glenview Drive, setting the residence on fire.
The two residents of the home escaped without injury.
Witnesses saw at least one pilot eject before the plane crashed. He landed on the roof of a house on nearby Schreiner Street and was rescued by Kamloops Fire Rescue.
A witness told KTW a second person, a female, appeared to have succumbed to her injuries.
[www.kamloopsthisweek.com]


I'm no fan either. Literally hundreds of millions are spent with the objective of glorifying the military & getting new recruits. We get the Blue Angels every summer in Seattle. Always the same show & they mess up an already beyond ugly traffic situation by closing key bridges so that they can practice before the shows. The money would be better spent beefing up the dismal testing situation and/or feeding the hungry. BTW, there are a lot more of them around these days & increasing daily. I'm not speaking for Canada but for the US.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: curt ()
Date: May 18, 2020 05:46

This young fellow had no underlying conditions, virus led to heart failure.
‘Straight-Up Fire’ in His Veins: Teen Battles New Covid Syndrome

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: May 18, 2020 06:15

Quote
MisterDDDD
Sad news out of Kamloops, BC today when a Snowbird crashed into a house.
Not a huge fan of these flyover salutes to healthcare workers/first responders.
Seems money spent on them could be better used, they tend to draw large crowds, and in places like NYC flying planes around the city still frighten many,
along with the noise which freaks animals and some humans out alike.
_________________________________________________________________________________

With video: Snowbird jet crashes into Kamloops house

A Canadian Forces Snowbird jet has crashed into a house in Kamloops.
Two jets took off from Kamloops Airport at about 11:30 a.m., bound for Comox, when one rose, then veered to the left and barrel rolled toward the ground, crashing into a house on Glenview Drive, setting the residence on fire.
The two residents of the home escaped without injury.
Witnesses saw at least one pilot eject before the plane crashed. He landed on the roof of a house on nearby Schreiner Street and was rescued by Kamloops Fire Rescue.
A witness told KTW a second person, a female, appeared to have succumbed to her injuries.
[www.kamloopsthisweek.com]


Yes, a very sad day here! Saw online video and the crash happened just after take off. 2 Snowbirds were taking off, headed for nearby Kelowna when suddenly one of the jets just started flying vertically, then looped around and crashed. One of the rumoured reasons for the crash is that a bird got sucked into the engine. One problem is these Tudor trainer jets are very old, Snowbirds started flying them in 71. Even though they get constant mechanical upgrades, you're still flying 50 year old jets. Kind of like when the Blue Angels flew Skyhawks and the Thunderbirds flew F5's.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: May 18, 2020 07:02

Article mentions the cause may be faulty testing.
Hope so. Most medical experts opinion that once you get it you are immune is one I'd like to think is true.

_________________________________________________________________________________

8 more sailors aboard US ship test positive a 2nd time
Eight more sailors aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt have tested positive again for the coronavirus

WASHINGTON -- Eight more sailors aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt have tested positive again for the coronavirus, raising to 13 the number who appear to have become infected a second time while serving aboard the sidelined aircraft carrier.

All the sailors had previously tested positive for the virus and had gone through at least two weeks of isolation. Before they were allowed to go back to the ship, all had to test negative twice in a row, with the tests separated by at least a day or two.

On Saturday, a Navy official confirmed eight additional sailors had tested positive again. A day earlier the Navy had said in a statement that five had tested positive a second time. The Navy official was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.
[abcnews.go.com]

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: May 18, 2020 07:12

Quote
artedm
video
Why Stadiums Are Incubators for Coronavirus Spread
Sports fans are longing to return to the stands, but health experts say stadiums are one of the highest-risk areas for coronavirus transmission. Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease specialist, walks us through how easily the virus could spread among the crowd

[www.wsj.com]

Wow.

I guess it would be possible to have games and concerts in stadiums if there were several new rules in place.

Everyone must be six feet apart, and no social contact whatsoever - that includes no high fives or other general camaraderie.
Nobody could yell or scream their approval - even clapping might be harmful as it can stir up and spread the virus filled air.
Do not touch any handrails to and from the food and merch stands, and especially don't touch anything near the bathrooms.
Be sure to wash hands as often as possible, but do not touch anything in between hand washings especially your own face.
Everyone MUST wear a mask, and cover their mouth when coughing - the latter being common sense and courtesy with or without fear of spreading the disease.
Maybe supply everyone with a hazmat suit for extra precautions, and in extreme cases maybe gas masks in cities that are experiencing spikes in the infections.

Coincidental that the latter part of that story has an interview with Texas A&M University athletic director Ross Bjork and what it's going to take to make it happen,
and then I just saw on the news that Texas has experienced it's highest death rate today and it continues to escalate - looks like it's going to be an uphill battle for quite some time before any stadium events take place.

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