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Irix
Germany's top-virologist Christian Drosten said on 16-Jan-2022 to the Berlin newspaper [www.Tagesspiegel.de] : "All people would have to be infected with Sars-Cov-2 sooner or later. 'Yes, we have to get into this fairway, there is no alternative,' he said. 'We can't keep immunising the whole population every few months via booster vaccination in the long run.' That's what the virus has to do, he said. 'The virus has to spread, but it has to do so on the basis of a vaccination protection that is anchored in the broad population" - otherwise 'too many people would die'."
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Irix
Germany's top-virologist Christian Drosten said on 16-Jan-2022 to the Berlin newspaper [www.Tagesspiegel.de] : "All people would have to be infected with Sars-Cov-2 sooner or later. 'Yes, we have to get into this fairway, there is no alternative,' he said. 'We can't keep immunising the whole population every few months via booster vaccination in the long run.' That's what the virus has to do, he said. 'The virus has to spread, but it has to do so on the basis of a vaccination protection that is anchored in the broad population" - otherwise 'too many people would die'."
There I asked in an earlier post, more or less: E.g. I received the booster 1 1/2 month ago. Am I then advised to actively seek the virus now with some of the protection from the vaccine still working? At least, stop avoiding infection?
On the other hand, there have also been sayings at least on one occasion from one of the health authorities in Norway to the effect that some immunity obtained in addition from an omicron infection does not necessarily protect against a possible omicron infection a second time or from infection by new mutants that may arise.
What is one really to think?
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bv
You should NEVER seek the virus, in order to "get protection". Vaccine will always be the best and safest protection, unless you are a child under the age of 12.
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NashvilleBlues
The goal is always to avoid illness. That should be plain and simple.
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bv
You should NEVER seek the virus, in order to "get protection". Vaccine will always be the best and safest protection, unless you are a child under the age of 12.
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bv
You should NEVER seek the virus, in order to "get protection". Vaccine will always be the best and safest protection, unless you are a child under the age of 12.
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bv
You should NEVER seek the virus, in order to "get protection". Vaccine will always be the best and safest protection, unless you are a child under the age of 12.
Does Norway have plans to distribute to age 5 and over? They've done that in a few countries already.
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bv
You should NEVER seek the virus, in order to "get protection". Vaccine will always be the best and safest protection, unless you are a child under the age of 12.
If that is an answer to my post, I told, I have received three vaccines. You recently took a beer at some kind of pub or bar to signify that you personnally are finished with covid '19. That has been far from my attitude up to now. I, who in other winters have travelled to go cross country ski tours, still abstain from that to be certain to avoid crowded buses or trains.
But then I read in a Norwegian context that FHI, one of the health authorities in Norway, state that one cannot avoid omicron. In addition, that it afterwards would strengthen the protection from the vaccines. Confronted with that, I wonder if the outcome of an omicron infection will be less bad a comparatively short time after my booster vaccine (Dec. 8.) than later. Have my precautions become counter-produktive? (More internally for Norway, also referring to some details of differing views between Nakstad and Stoltenberg).
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I did not say main points, bv, but details. Maybe it was in an article that I can no longer find back to, but which I have mailed about. In case, on vg.no "Ingenting kan stoppe vinterbølgen." (that is, Nothing can stop the winter wave) Nakstad objected to the presented view from FHI that the combined immunity from the three vaccines, plus from having gone though an omicron infection would not necessarily protect against a reinfection from omicron. Or an infection from a later possible mutant. It was admitted from the leading director from FHI to be correct. But in my reading of it, that was held forth as some objection.
Latest edit: The important addition of "necessarily".
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I did not say main points, bv, but details. Maybe it was in an article that I can no longer find back to, but which I have mailed about. In case, on vg.no "Ingenting kan stoppe vinterbølgen." (that is, Nothing can stop the winter wave) Nakstad objected to the presented view from FHI that the combined immunity from the three vaccines, plus from having gone though an omicron infection would not necessarily protect against a reinfection from omicron. Or an infection from a later possible mutant. It was admitted from the leading director from FHI to be correct. But in my reading of it, that was held forth as some objection.
Latest edit: The important addition of "necessarily".
Unless you come up with a proper link, I will assume you have misunderstood what somebody have said. I follow all major covid-19 press in Norway, there have been no such seriously conflicting views.
Most health experts would agree on the fact that if you get a virus like omicron today, and get immune, you may still get the virus one more time next year. This is due to the fact that the virus change at all times, alpha, delta, omicron, and so on.
On the other hand, there will be fewer and fewer places for the virus to go, and people will be less sick. In fact now, right now in Norway, ICU patients are Delta, not Omicron. And delta will be gone soon, they say. Now we have 98% omicron. Also, ICU numbers are down by 42% last week in Norway, even if the virus is up by 60%.
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Covid pandemic 'nowhere near over,' WHO says
How will the pandemic end? Nearly two years since it was officially declared by the World Health Organization (WHO), we're still no closer to knowing the answer. The highly transmissible Omicron variant has swept the globe since it was first detected in South Africa in November. But the fact that it is less likely to cause severe disease than previous coronavirus variants has led to heavy speculation over whether it might mark a turning point, or a conclusion, to the pandemic. WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus poured cold water on that theory on Tuesday, saying: "This pandemic is nowhere near over."
Omicron is continuing to infect the world at a startling speed, with more than 18 million cases reported last week alone, according to WHO. The number of Covid patients in the United States is at a record high and continues to climb, overwhelming hospitals. From Australia to Germany, infections are leaping to never-before-seen levels, putting a significant strain on health care systems. "Omicron may be less severe -- on average, of course -- but the narrative that it is mild disease is misleading, hurts the overall response, and costs more lives," Tedros said. "Make no mistake, Omicron is causing hospitalizations and deaths and even the less severe cases are inundating health facilities. The virus is circulating far too intensely with many still vulnerable."
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Rocknroll1969
I have been vaccinated 3 times. The current vaccines will not end the pandemic. They provide protection for a few months and then the protection fades. This might be the vaccine that ends the pandemic. [www.cnet.com]
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NICOS
For those who constantly are discussing this COVID issue .......are you happy people or just afraid ......since last summer I'm not worried about it about anymore............
I really hope one day that BV will ad a option on IORR ............ remove this thread from my the list "Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world" will be the first to remove for me