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JN99
Here in WA where we have pretty decent vaccination rates Aug was the worst month for cases ever. Hospitalizations also at an all time high. That's true in many places yet more people are out and about, more people are going unmasked, more events are being held, etc. It's hard to understand the laissez faire attitude given current data points.
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JN99
Here in WA where we have pretty decent vaccination rates Aug was the worst month for cases ever. Hospitalizations also at an all time high. That's true in many places yet more people are out and about, more people are going unmasked, more events are being held, etc. It's hard to understand the laissez faire attitude given current data points.
Did you watch Seahawks game? I bet 20% max were masked in crowd. Lots had masks around their neck, probably only wore to get in. Impossible to enforce mandate in that situation. I'll watch on TV.
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MisterDDDD
COVID Deaths Drop to New Lows in U.S., While Vaccination Rates Climb
TUESDAY, June 22, 2021 (HealthDay News) --
The United States reached two promising pandemic milestones on Monday: COVID-19 deaths dropped below 300 a day and 150 million Americans are now fully vaccinated.
COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in America in 2020, behind only heart disease and cancer, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But as the pandemic loosens its grip on this country, it has fallen down the list of the biggest killers, the Associated Press reported.
CDC data suggests that more Americans are now dying every day from accidents, chronic lower respiratory diseases, strokes or Alzheimer's disease than from COVID-19, the wire service said.
[www.usnews.com]
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MisterDDDD
COVID Deaths Drop to New Lows in U.S., While Vaccination Rates Climb
TUESDAY, June 22, 2021 (HealthDay News) --
The United States reached two promising pandemic milestones on Monday: COVID-19 deaths dropped below 300 a day and 150 million Americans are now fully vaccinated.
COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in America in 2020, behind only heart disease and cancer, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But as the pandemic loosens its grip on this country, it has fallen down the list of the biggest killers, the Associated Press reported.
CDC data suggests that more Americans are now dying every day from accidents, chronic lower respiratory diseases, strokes or Alzheimer's disease than from COVID-19, the wire service said.
[www.usnews.com]
That was over 2 months ago.Since.then daily deaths in the US are back up again. Approx 1500 yesterday and the day before.
[www.worldometers.info]
Cases and deaths climbing here in the UK too, though not to the same level as the US yet, accounting for population sizes. We have a higher vaccination rate here.
I expect our figures to worsen significantly when the English schools return next week. In Scotland, they returned 2 weeks ago and their figures shot right up.
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MisterDDDD
COVID Deaths Drop to New Lows in U.S., While Vaccination Rates Climb
TUESDAY, June 22, 2021 (HealthDay News) --
The United States reached two promising pandemic milestones on Monday: COVID-19 deaths dropped below 300 a day and 150 million Americans are now fully vaccinated.
COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in America in 2020, behind only heart disease and cancer, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But as the pandemic loosens its grip on this country, it has fallen down the list of the biggest killers, the Associated Press reported.
CDC data suggests that more Americans are now dying every day from accidents, chronic lower respiratory diseases, strokes or Alzheimer's disease than from COVID-19, the wire service said.
[www.usnews.com]
That was over 2 months ago.Since.then daily deaths in the US are back up again. Approx 1500 yesterday and the day before.
[www.worldometers.info]
Cases and deaths climbing here in the UK too, though not to the same level as the US yet, accounting for population sizes. We have a higher vaccination rate here.
I expect our figures to worsen significantly when the English schools return next week. In Scotland, they returned 2 weeks ago and their figures shot right up.
Spot on, grzegorz67! Long live Freedom Day
My daughter and her husband live in London. They escaped to a reasonably safe place in Portugal a month ago and work from there. Death rates in the UK have been well over 100 daily and the other day they "scored" over 200 and 170 in one day! Positive test numbers have been well over 20000 a day with often over 35000 a day! Both figures since about two months! Shocking. Long live Freedom Day, the memorable day for covidiots ...
By the way, our government is just as stupid as that of the UK
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MisterDDDD
COVID Deaths Drop to New Lows in U.S., While Vaccination Rates Climb
TUESDAY, June 22, 2021 (HealthDay News) --
The United States reached two promising pandemic milestones on Monday: COVID-19 deaths dropped below 300 a day and 150 million Americans are now fully vaccinated.
COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in America in 2020, behind only heart disease and cancer, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But as the pandemic loosens its grip on this country, it has fallen down the list of the biggest killers, the Associated Press reported.
CDC data suggests that more Americans are now dying every day from accidents, chronic lower respiratory diseases, strokes or Alzheimer's disease than from COVID-19, the wire service said.
[www.usnews.com]
That was over 2 months ago.Since.then daily deaths in the US are back up again. Approx 1500 yesterday and the day before.
[www.worldometers.info]
Cases and deaths climbing here in the UK too, though not to the same level as the US yet, accounting for population sizes. We have a higher vaccination rate here.
I expect our figures to worsen significantly when the English schools return next week. In Scotland, they returned 2 weeks ago and their figures shot right up.
Spot on, grzegorz67! Long live Freedom Day
My daughter and her husband live in London. They escaped to a reasonably safe place in Portugal a month ago and work from there. Death rates in the UK have been well over 100 daily and the other day they "scored" over 200 and 170 in one day! Positive test numbers have been well over 20000 a day with often over 35000 a day! Both figures since about two months! Shocking. Long live Freedom Day, the memorable day for covidiots ...
By the way, our government is just as stupid as that of the UK
You’re Dutch IIRC Georgie? I know a while ago they had a freedom day of their own then had to close everything down again a few weeks later because the figures shot up! My own government have done well with the vaccination programme but little else. Last weekend was the August public holiday in all of U.K. apart from Scotland. Traditionally there are lots of music festivals attended by youngsters and they all went ahead as normal. Who knows what the effect of that will be.
In Scotland the schools return 2 weeks earlier than the rest of U.K. and their figures surged. The same will happen here when the schools go back next week.
I agree with the cautious approach but it’s getting very trying now. I’m going mad. I haven’t spent a single overnight away from home since this all started. This week I was supposed to be on a tour of Northern Ireland and my homeland of Scotland but I had to cancel it all because of issues at the other end so I’m stuck at home still. I have to be especially cautious because my mum and dad live close by and Both are 79. My dad’s 80 next week.
Things are looking bad again and I’m totally pissed off with all of this. I still mask up and sanitise for going into shops and on the rare occasions I use public transport.
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bv
I just do not understand the official numbers of Florida state of USA.
Today the main news agency in Norway NTB is reporting the following, through our largest news channel VG.no:
Ny rekord i coronadødsfall i Florida
(English: New record in corona deaths in Florida)
Through google translate it looks like this:
Florida is currently recording the highest death toll from the coronavirus so far since the pandemic began last year.
Data from the US infection control agency CDC shows that there were more deaths in at least eight days in August than during the previous major outbreak in August last year in the state, which is the epicenter of the pandemic in the US.
The average number of daily deaths per week was 244 in August, compared with 227 in the same month last year, and the number may continue to rise when new reports come in.
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Then I take a look at the US numbers on worldometers, which have been an important source of data since the very beginning of this pandemic.
Yesterday numbers:
California : New cases 11,000 - New deaths 144 => fatality rate 1.3%
Florida : New cases 21,000 - New deaths 11 => fatality rate 0.05%
I.e. 26 times more deaths per infected people in CA vs FL.
As a person working with numbers and analytics all my life, this does not add up to me.
Am I 26 times more safe at the Stones show in Tampa as compared to the show in LA?
Or does CDC have other numbers as compared to worldometers?
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triceratops
BV-- Go ahead and rag on Ivermectin. What I posted was that it is on the way to getting approved in Japan. By the Japanese health authorities. It is in the news. In my book, the Japanese are going to come out smarter than us in the Western nations. Let's see how the big bad I shakes out in Japan. btw This is my last post on the forbidden I --- Carry on!
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triceratops
BV-- Go ahead and rag on Ivermectin. What I posted was that it is on the way to getting approved in Japan. By the Japanese health authorities. It is in the news. In my book, the Japanese are going to come out smarter than us in the Western nations. Let's see how the big bad I shakes out in Japan. btw This is my last post on the forbidden I --- Carry on!
Have you tried Alpo? It's the latest thing....
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triceratops
BV-- Go ahead and rag on Ivermectin. What I posted was that it is on the way to getting approved in Japan. By the Japanese health authorities. It is in the news. In my book, the Japanese are going to come out smarter than us in the Western nations. Let's see how the big bad I shakes out in Japan. btw This is my last post on the forbidden I --- Carry on!
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bleedingman
This is a very interesting article on the effects of making children wear masks. (The Atlantic is NOT a right wing news outlet.) We are still in a learning curve:
The Downsides of Masking Young Students Are Real
The educational cost of face coverings is far better established than the benefits of mandates.
[www.theatlantic.com]