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Wow this place really seems to be waking up other than the usual fanatics, reading some of these common sence posts is heart warming, there is hope.
Here's to all of you that see through the media, big pharma, wikkie, fact checkers etc
Did you take the vaccine?
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Wow this place really seems to be waking up other than the usual fanatics, reading some of these common sence posts is heart warming, there is hope.
Here's to all of you that see through the media, big pharma, wikkie, fact checkers etc
Did you take the vaccine?
Nate
As i said in previous posts, no i haven't yet because ive been sitting on the fence seeing how it goes and the results of the experimental jab is a big fail as far as im concerned, plus i know many people who have died or become very sick after the so called vaccine.
Im 56 and very healthy, I'll hold out a bit longer, obviously when I need to travel i will be forced to have the jabs, thst seems unfair to me.
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georgie48
I'm 56 and very healthy ... I heard that kind of talk before ...
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Yes georgie48, thats right. And thanks daspyknows for that lengthy article that actually only breeds fear, due to the many unknowns presented. Similar dispositions could be written about most sicknesses. But it was a fun read anyway.
Responding to treaclefingers, after bringing McD and cars into the picture, you show your lack of understanding and should know how a global pandemic usually develops with regards to immunity and infection, so your misplaced serves are out of bounds.
Your only real response to my post is "Here's why I don't think you're understanding. You say that if the virus spread is 'slow'...that means more variants could arise, when in actuality it is in the sheer number of hosts that it's allowed to gobble up. Simple math, the more victims, the more opportunities for the virus to mutate."
Again, 'slow' results in waning immunity, more chance of infection and mutation. Do you have any reliable data to backup that less people will have carried the virus, reducing mutation chances, because they were vaccinated? We might even be seeing more asymptomatic superspreaders among the vaccinated, since they feel well and don't stay home!
Responding to daspy, there is really nothing to more say, not enough substance in your arguments, they don't merit answers. Maybe my assumption that you are among the elderly is wrong, considering the way you and treaclefingers express yourselves. Are you in fact the same person? Calling others weak, afraid, selfish, stupid, hilarious and so on. This is just a discussion, but name calling gives you low marks on persuasion. I would hate to be your kid or spouse and face that kind of response if I disagreed with you. It could turn violent.
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Wow this place really seems to be waking up other than the usual fanatics, reading some of these common sence posts is heart warming, there is hope.
Here's to all of you that see through the media, big pharma, wikkie, fact checkers etc
Did you take the vaccine?
Nate
As i said in previous posts, no i haven't yet because ive been sitting on the fence seeing how it goes and the results of the experimental jab is a big fail as far as im concerned, plus i know many people who have died or become very sick after the so called vaccine.
Im 56 and very healthy, I'll hold out a bit longer, obviously when I need to travel i will be forced to have the jabs, thst seems unfair to me.
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bitusa2012
I truly think anti vaxxers are just scared. They read the stats. And the anti vaccine crap and believe they’re somehow immune. Yet I believe many (most) are perfectly happy for their wife/girlfriend/sister to take birth control pills. Which have far worse statistical (and REAL) affects on health than the Covid shots.
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I truly think anti vaxxers are just scared. They read the stats. And the anti vaccine crap and believe they’re somehow immune. Yet I believe many (most) are perfectly happy for their wife/girlfriend/sister to take birth control pills. Which have far worse statistical (and REAL) affects on health than the Covid shots.
Who around here is recommending not to take a vaccine? I have my doubts about the benefits of vaccinating young people, but as long as you are not a minor you can do as you feel is best for yourself.
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I truly think anti vaxxers are just scared. They read the stats. And the anti vaccine crap and believe they’re somehow immune. Yet I believe many (most) are perfectly happy for their wife/girlfriend/sister to take birth control pills. Which have far worse statistical (and REAL) affects on health than the Covid shots.
Who around here is recommending not to take a vaccine? I have my doubts about the benefits of vaccinating young people, but as long as you are not a minor you can do as you feel is best for yourself.
I know people that have died shortly after taking their second jab. My neighbour, a healthy 63 year old, also my bothers 42 year old friend, both involved blood clots, both not acknowledged as anything to do with the vaccine.
Also i know a few people who have been in some difficulty health wise and mild dementia who have gone rapidly down hill since the vaccines.
My daughter in law is a care worker and has also seen a rapid decline in the health of some of her patients since the vaccine.
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I truly think anti vaxxers are just scared. They read the stats. And the anti vaccine crap and believe they’re somehow immune. Yet I believe many (most) are perfectly happy for their wife/girlfriend/sister to take birth control pills. Which have far worse statistical (and REAL) affects on health than the Covid shots.
Who around here is recommending not to take a vaccine? I have my doubts about the benefits of vaccinating young people, but as long as you are not a minor you can do as you feel is best for yourself.
I know people that have died shortly after taking their second jab. My neighbour, a healthy 63 year old, also my bothers 42 year old friend, both involved blood clots, both not acknowledged as anything to do with the vaccine.
Also i know a few people who have been in some difficulty health wise and mild dementia who have gone rapidly down hill since the vaccines.
My daughter in law is a care worker and has also seen a rapid decline in the health of some of her patients since the vaccine.
Sad stories but all anecdotal. While there have been occasional issues with reactions to vaccines, the overwhelming scientific evidence is that they save far, far more lives than they take. UK Infectious Diseases expert Professor Jonathan Van Tam estimates that 60,000 lives have been saved by vaccines so far in a coguntry of 68 million people.
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I truly think anti vaxxers are just scared. They read the stats. And the anti vaccine crap and believe they’re somehow immune. Yet I believe many (most) are perfectly happy for their wife/girlfriend/sister to take birth control pills. Which have far worse statistical (and REAL) affects on health than the Covid shots.
Who around here is recommending not to take a vaccine? I have my doubts about the benefits of vaccinating young people, but as long as you are not a minor you can do as you feel is best for yourself.
I know people that have died shortly after taking their second jab. My neighbour, a healthy 63 year old, also my bothers 42 year old friend, both involved blood clots, both not acknowledged as anything to do with the vaccine.
Also i know a few people who have been in some difficulty health wise and mild dementia who have gone rapidly down hill since the vaccines.
My daughter in law is a care worker and has also seen a rapid decline in the health of some of her patients since the vaccine.
Sad stories but all anecdotal. While there have been occasional issues with reactions to vaccines, the overwhelming scientific evidence is that they save far, far more lives than they take. UK Infectious Diseases expert Professor Jonathan Van Tam estimates that 60,000 lives have been saved by vaccines so far in a coguntry of 68 million people.
In that case you could say covid deaths are anecdotal, actually it just means these people died of various illnesses and just happened to test positive for coronavirus in the past 28 days from a questionable hyperactive inconclusive pcr test that was said to be useless from the man who invented it.
It's just that deaths by vaccine are not the agenda thats being fed to us from big pharma via the currupted media.
I mean it's all anecdotal isn't it, where do facts come from, (CDC. WHO. are they above question ? ) look at the curruption from the big companies sponsoring these vaccines, it really needs to be looked into before you stick their experimental toxins into your body. Especially when it comes to your children.
Did you know there was 30,000 extra suicides in the UK last year alone, that halves the so called increased deaths from last year due to covid, add to that deaths because people couldn't receive important heart and cancer treatments due to the backlog brought on by covid and that possibly makes increased deaths from covid questionable, almost anecdotal.
It's possible to suggest the way the government chose to deal with covid caused more harm than good.
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Did you know there was 30,000 extra suicides in the UK last year alone,
30,000 extra deaths due to suicide in the UK is absurd fabricated nonsense. Where on Earth are you getting that from?
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Did you know there was 30,000 extra suicides in the UK last year alone,
30,000 extra deaths due to suicide in the UK is absurd fabricated nonsense. Where on Earth are you getting that from?
I have exactly the same doubt. Totally unbelievable.
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Did you know there was 30,000 extra suicides in the UK last year alone,
30,000 extra deaths due to suicide in the UK is absurd fabricated nonsense. Where on Earth are you getting that from?
I have exactly the same doubt. Totally unbelievable.
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Did you know there was 30,000 extra suicides in the UK last year alone,
30,000 extra deaths due to suicide in the UK is absurd fabricated nonsense. Where on Earth are you getting that from?
I have exactly the same doubt. Totally unbelievable.
Yes sorry about that , my apologies for my mistake, it was 3000
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Did you know there was 30,000 extra suicides in the UK last year alone,
30,000 extra deaths due to suicide in the UK is absurd fabricated nonsense. Where on Earth are you getting that from?
I have exactly the same doubt. Totally unbelievable.
Yes sorry about that , my apologies for my mistake, it was 3000
What’s your Source? Even an extra 3,000 would be ridiculous. I use the U.K. Office for National Statistics.
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I think he’s using the rocktiludrop office for statistics
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I think he’s using the rocktiludrop office for statistics
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Well yeah jump all over it, because obviously if I make one mistake everything i say is incorrect, stick to your fact checkers mate, they wouldn't misslead you would they.