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daspyknows
For those not vaccinated this should motivate them. This does not just target old and fat people too.
From Business Insider
Oman reports new cases of black fungus in COVID-19 patients following 'epidemic' of the infection in India
Mucorymycosis has been seen in patients with particularly severe cases of COVID-19.
The fungal infection has a high mortality rate, requiring the removal of infected tissue.
Doctors in Oman have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the AP said.
Doctors in Oman, a small nation on the Arabian Peninsula, have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the Associated Press reported Tuesday.
The fungal infection, known as mucorymycosis, can be fatal. The news comes as Oman faces a surge in coronavirus cases brought about, in part, by the fact that more than 90% of its population has not yet been vaccinated, according to the AP report.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, people with severe cases of COVID-19 "are particularly vulnerable to bacterial and fungal infections." The use of "high-dose corticosteroids and tocilizumab," a monoclonal antibody, can also predispose patients to infection from fungal spores.
Signs of infection include black lesions on the nose or inside the mouth, according to the CDC.
The problem of black fungus has been particularly acute in India, where several states have declared it an epidemic amid the spread of a coronavirus variant officially known as B.1.617, but more recently renamed Delta, that appears to be more contagious than the original. As Insider has reported, black fungus has a 50% mortality rate "and requires all infected tissues to be removed for patients to have a fighting chance
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steffialicia
Hate to say it but I'm losing hope for a late summer/fall tour in the US. Too many not being vaccinated. Some states are doing very well. Others are not. I read the other day that Florida is only 42% fully vaccinated.
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steffialicia
Hate to say it but I'm losing hope for a late summer/fall tour in the US. Too many not being vaccinated. Some states are doing very well. Others are not. I read the other day that Florida is only 42% fully vaccinated.
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steffialicia
Hate to say it but I'm losing hope for a late summer/fall tour in the US. Too many not being vaccinated. Some states are doing very well. Others are not. I read the other day that Florida is only 42% fully vaccinated.
Tennessee is probably right there with Florida, too. However, the US is over 64%. Depends on where you draw the line. Most likely, the actual cities the venues are in, have higher vaccination rates than the states they’re in. And, people come from all over the country to see The Stones. A more accurate picture could be painted if we knew the percentage of vaccinated Stones fans.
Although I understand your alarm, I’m sure you can see my point.
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steffialicia
Hate to say it but I'm losing hope for a late summer/fall tour in the US. Too many not being vaccinated. Some states are doing very well. Others are not. I read the other day that Florida is only 42% fully vaccinated.
Perhaps the Stones will tailor their dates around those cities that have a higher vaccination-rate. That could be a way to ensure some performances. Proof of a negative test is something that could be considered, also.
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daspyknows
For those not vaccinated this should motivate them. This does not just target old and fat people too.
From Business Insider
Oman reports new cases of black fungus in COVID-19 patients following 'epidemic' of the infection in India
Mucorymycosis has been seen in patients with particularly severe cases of COVID-19.
The fungal infection has a high mortality rate, requiring the removal of infected tissue.
Doctors in Oman have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the AP said.
Doctors in Oman, a small nation on the Arabian Peninsula, have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the Associated Press reported Tuesday.
The fungal infection, known as mucorymycosis, can be fatal. The news comes as Oman faces a surge in coronavirus cases brought about, in part, by the fact that more than 90% of its population has not yet been vaccinated, according to the AP report.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, people with severe cases of COVID-19 "are particularly vulnerable to bacterial and fungal infections." The use of "high-dose corticosteroids and tocilizumab," a monoclonal antibody, can also predispose patients to infection from fungal spores.
Signs of infection include black lesions on the nose or inside the mouth, according to the CDC.
The problem of black fungus has been particularly acute in India, where several states have declared it an epidemic amid the spread of a coronavirus variant officially known as B.1.617, but more recently renamed Delta, that appears to be more contagious than the original. As Insider has reported, black fungus has a 50% mortality rate "and requires all infected tissues to be removed for patients to have a fighting chance
[www.msn.com]?
Good lord. I wonder if this is just peculiar to the delta variant? Seems like it otherwise you may have heard of this symptom before.
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steffialicia
Hate to say it but I'm losing hope for a late summer/fall tour in the US. Too many not being vaccinated. Some states are doing very well. Others are not. I read the other day that Florida is only 42% fully vaccinated.
Perhaps the Stones will tailor their dates around those cities that have a higher vaccination-rate. That could be a way to ensure some performances. Proof of a negative test is something that could be considered, also.
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georgie48
The USA are pretty unique when it comes to legal issues. For the Stones I could be equally annoying ... fans who already have tickets, but not allowed to get in without vaccination proof ... or vaccinated fans going to court when they find out they are infected with Covid-any Greek character during a Stones concert ... (and as such putting others in danger).
It may be better to wait until the Covid-alpha, beta, gamma, delta, (ipsylon?) storm is really over. Okay, a small breeze should be okay, I'd say.
But ... if the Stones decide to go ahead, well, what choice do I have? Just get me an available concert ticket to any place in the USA (but preferably the West )
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georgie48
The USA are pretty unique when it comes to legal issues. For the Stones I could be equally annoying ... fans who already have tickets, but not allowed to get in without vaccination proof ... or vaccinated fans going to court when they find out they are infected with Covid-any Greek character during a Stones concert ... (and as such putting others in danger).
It may be better to wait until the Covid-alpha, beta, gamma, delta, (ipsylon?) storm is really over. Okay, a small breeze should be okay, I'd say.
But ... if the Stones decide to go ahead, well, what choice do I have? Just get me an available concert ticket to any place in the USA (but preferably the West )
If you're vaccinated who cares? Low chance of catching, and lower chance of hospitalization and even lower chance of death.
How much stuff have you avoided after you got the flu shot?
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daspyknows
For those not vaccinated this should motivate them. This does not just target old and fat people too.
From Business Insider
Oman reports new cases of black fungus in COVID-19 patients following 'epidemic' of the infection in India
Mucorymycosis has been seen in patients with particularly severe cases of COVID-19.
The fungal infection has a high mortality rate, requiring the removal of infected tissue.
Doctors in Oman have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the AP said.
Doctors in Oman, a small nation on the Arabian Peninsula, have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the Associated Press reported Tuesday.
The fungal infection, known as mucorymycosis, can be fatal. The news comes as Oman faces a surge in coronavirus cases brought about, in part, by the fact that more than 90% of its population has not yet been vaccinated, according to the AP report.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, people with severe cases of COVID-19 "are particularly vulnerable to bacterial and fungal infections." The use of "high-dose corticosteroids and tocilizumab," a monoclonal antibody, can also predispose patients to infection from fungal spores.
Signs of infection include black lesions on the nose or inside the mouth, according to the CDC.
The problem of black fungus has been particularly acute in India, where several states have declared it an epidemic amid the spread of a coronavirus variant officially known as B.1.617, but more recently renamed Delta, that appears to be more contagious than the original. As Insider has reported, black fungus has a 50% mortality rate "and requires all infected tissues to be removed for patients to have a fighting chance
[www.msn.com]?
Good lord. I wonder if this is just peculiar to the delta variant? Seems like it otherwise you may have heard of this symptom before.
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georgie48
The USA are pretty unique when it comes to legal issues. For the Stones I could be equally annoying ... fans who already have tickets, but not allowed to get in without vaccination proof ... or vaccinated fans going to court when they find out they are infected with Covid-any Greek character during a Stones concert ... (and as such putting others in danger).
It may be better to wait until the Covid-alpha, beta, gamma, delta, (ipsylon?) storm is really over. Okay, a small breeze should be okay, I'd say.
But ... if the Stones decide to go ahead, well, what choice do I have? Just get me an available concert ticket to any place in the USA (but preferably the West )
If you're vaccinated who cares? Low chance of catching, and lower chance of hospitalization and even lower chance of death.
How much stuff have you avoided after you got the flu shot?
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daspyknows
For those not vaccinated this should motivate them. This does not just target old and fat people too.
From Business Insider
Oman reports new cases of black fungus in COVID-19 patients following 'epidemic' of the infection in India
Mucorymycosis has been seen in patients with particularly severe cases of COVID-19.
The fungal infection has a high mortality rate, requiring the removal of infected tissue.
Doctors in Oman have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the AP said.
Doctors in Oman, a small nation on the Arabian Peninsula, have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the Associated Press reported Tuesday.
The fungal infection, known as mucorymycosis, can be fatal. The news comes as Oman faces a surge in coronavirus cases brought about, in part, by the fact that more than 90% of its population has not yet been vaccinated, according to the AP report.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, people with severe cases of COVID-19 "are particularly vulnerable to bacterial and fungal infections." The use of "high-dose corticosteroids and tocilizumab," a monoclonal antibody, can also predispose patients to infection from fungal spores.
Signs of infection include black lesions on the nose or inside the mouth, according to the CDC.
The problem of black fungus has been particularly acute in India, where several states have declared it an epidemic amid the spread of a coronavirus variant officially known as B.1.617, but more recently renamed Delta, that appears to be more contagious than the original. As Insider has reported, black fungus has a 50% mortality rate "and requires all infected tissues to be removed for patients to have a fighting chance
[www.msn.com]?
Good lord. I wonder if this is just peculiar to the delta variant? Seems like it otherwise you may have heard of this symptom before.
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georgie48
The USA are pretty unique when it comes to legal issues. For the Stones I could be equally annoying ... fans who already have tickets, but not allowed to get in without vaccination proof ... or vaccinated fans going to court when they find out they are infected with Covid-any Greek character during a Stones concert ... (and as such putting others in danger).
It may be better to wait until the Covid-alpha, beta, gamma, delta, (ipsylon?) storm is really over. Okay, a small breeze should be okay, I'd say.
But ... if the Stones decide to go ahead, well, what choice do I have? Just get me an available concert ticket to any place in the USA (but preferably the West )
If you're vaccinated who cares? Low chance of catching, and lower chance of hospitalization and even lower chance of death.
How much stuff have you avoided after you got the flu shot?
You're right. After the flu shot (once a year) I, like many I guess, go on with daily life as usual. Last year November I also had a flu shot, but was already in Covid protection mode. The only thing I thought was that by having the flu shot, my body was already "forced" to make antibodies. Not antibodies for Covid, but still, the "machine" was being "oiled", in other words, not sleeping. As of May 12 I'm fully Phizered.
But I also want to say, that the worst post WW2 flu was 10 times less deadly than Covid, which make quite a difference in my mindsetting. I would not enter a space filled with a deadly gas, even when having the best high quality gas mask available. I also would not eat Japanese Blowfish, even if it's prepared by the best Japanese masterchef Knowing about the depth of IT security (you don't really want to know ...) makes you think twice in what way you (want to) use Internet, mobile phone IT communication, etc. Nothing is perfect, but fooling yourself while fed with pre-knowledge, would really make a fool of your(read: my)self.
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daspyknows
For those not vaccinated this should motivate them. This does not just target old and fat people too.
From Business Insider
Oman reports new cases of black fungus in COVID-19 patients following 'epidemic' of the infection in India
Mucorymycosis has been seen in patients with particularly severe cases of COVID-19.
The fungal infection has a high mortality rate, requiring the removal of infected tissue.
Doctors in Oman have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the AP said.
Doctors in Oman, a small nation on the Arabian Peninsula, have encountered at least three COVID-19 patients with "black fungus," the Associated Press reported Tuesday.
The fungal infection, known as mucorymycosis, can be fatal. The news comes as Oman faces a surge in coronavirus cases brought about, in part, by the fact that more than 90% of its population has not yet been vaccinated, according to the AP report.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, people with severe cases of COVID-19 "are particularly vulnerable to bacterial and fungal infections." The use of "high-dose corticosteroids and tocilizumab," a monoclonal antibody, can also predispose patients to infection from fungal spores.
Signs of infection include black lesions on the nose or inside the mouth, according to the CDC.
The problem of black fungus has been particularly acute in India, where several states have declared it an epidemic amid the spread of a coronavirus variant officially known as B.1.617, but more recently renamed Delta, that appears to be more contagious than the original. As Insider has reported, black fungus has a 50% mortality rate "and requires all infected tissues to be removed for patients to have a fighting chance
[www.msn.com]?
Good lord. I wonder if this is just peculiar to the delta variant? Seems like it otherwise you may have heard of this symptom before.
The account for this that I have seen in the Australian media is....
When the Pandemic was at a recent high in India there was a catastrophic shortage of Oxygen to use with patients who were short of breath and/or were on ventilators.
So rightly concerned family members went out and procured cylinders of Oxygen and started to use those - manytime getting the cylinders for the hospitals because they were overwhelmed.
Unfortunately there's Oxygen and there's Oxygen. :-)
Hospitals use 'medical grade' Oxygen that I assume has been extra sterilised (good, given that it's being pumped direct into lungs). Other sources - eg industry for Oxy-Acetylene - simply use oxygen simply extracted from the air and bottled along with everything else grabbed at the same time. ie Not clean.
So the story is that the Fungus is a result of using crap Oxygen.
It's associated with the Delta variant because that's the variant that exploded in India and caused the recent carnage.
It is associated with it, but is not caused by it (I am led to believe).
There's an outbreak in Australia of Delta and no (public) reports of this fungus. Equally there are 9,000 cases per day in the UK, mainly Delta, and I've not seen any reports of it from there.
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shadooby
Herd immunity is simply not possible if ALL are vaccinated...FACT. Never had to show proof of Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox, Polio, etc. etc. vaccines to get in anywhere before all this and I know a lot of people who NEVER received some of those. Grohl is a "has been" who would be nothing without Cobain...his music SUCKS to those of us not desperately trying to relive the grunge days. And don't even think about throwing award accolades about Grohl at us all...Milli Vanilli won grammys too. So what.
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bleedingman
Way to win friends and influence people, Ricky. what an idiot. Venues and bands have the right to set the goalposts in any way they wish, barring racial discrimination, etc. Either get vaccinated or shut the hell up.
Ricky Schroder protests Foo Fighters show over vaccine mandate
"Dave Grohl is an ignorant punk who needs slapped for supporting Discrimination. Ignorance comes in all shapes & sizes," The Champ star wrote.
Speak for yourself, you has been.
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bleedingman
Way to win friends and influence people, Ricky. what an idiot. Venues and bands have the right to set the goalposts in any way they wish, barring racial discrimination, etc. Either get vaccinated or shut the hell up.
Ricky Schroder protests Foo Fighters show over vaccine mandate
"Dave Grohl is an ignorant punk who needs slapped for supporting Discrimination. Ignorance comes in all shapes & sizes," The Champ star wrote.
Speak for yourself, you has been.
[www.yahoo.com]
what's a Ricky Schroeder? Just read that post on the Delta variant. Leaves you with a bit of an uncomfortable feeling knowing the efficiency of this variant and left unabated will no doubt lead to the Elipson variant and wait 'til we get to Omega.
The thing that concerns me is that it seems as though you're always going to have this core of people that doubles down on their theory this is just 'Co-Flu' and they keep the mutations coming. Will Pfizer figure out the vaccine for the Omega variant? Stay tuned and find out!
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shadooby
Herd immunity is simply not possible if ALL are vaccinated...FACT. Never had to show proof of Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox, Polio, etc. etc. vaccines to get in anywhere before all this and I know a lot of people who NEVER received some of those. Grohl is a "has been" who would be nothing without Cobain...his music SUCKS to those of us not desperately trying to relive the grunge days. And don't even think about throwing award accolades about Grohl at us all...Milli Vanilli won grammys too. So what.
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bleedingman
Way to win friends and influence people, Ricky. what an idiot. Venues and bands have the right to set the goalposts in any way they wish, barring racial discrimination, etc. Either get vaccinated or shut the hell up.
Ricky Schroder protests Foo Fighters show over vaccine mandate
"Dave Grohl is an ignorant punk who needs slapped for supporting Discrimination. Ignorance comes in all shapes & sizes," The Champ star wrote.
Speak for yourself, you has been.
[www.yahoo.com]
what's a Ricky Schroeder? Just read that post on the Delta variant. Leaves you with a bit of an uncomfortable feeling knowing the efficiency of this variant and left unabated will no doubt lead to the Elipson variant and wait 'til we get to Omega.
The thing that concerns me is that it seems as though you're always going to have this core of people that doubles down on their theory this is just 'Co-Flu' and they keep the mutations coming. Will Pfizer figure out the vaccine for the Omega variant? Stay tuned and find out!
I trust Pfizer and Moderna on that. I will take the first booster, second booster and third booster. Eventually enough anti-vaxxers will get sick enough that people will change or die. This is called evolution.
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shadooby
Herd immunity is simply not possible if ALL are vaccinated...FACT. Never had to show proof of Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox, Polio, etc. etc. vaccines to get in anywhere before all this and I know a lot of people who NEVER received some of those. Grohl is a "has been" who would be nothing without Cobain...his music SUCKS to those of us not desperately trying to relive the grunge days. And don't even think about throwing award accolades about Grohl at us all...Milli Vanilli won grammys too. So what.
You're stuck in the past with your regards to previous issues. It's 2021.
And your gripe about Dave Grohl?
No one is "tying to relive the grunge days." You sound like one of those people, I dunno, a boomer, that is stuck in the past. Dave Grohl is not a "has been".
Do you write for Fox News? Looks like it.
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shadooby
Herd immunity is simply not possible if ALL are vaccinated...FACT.
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Herd immunity is simply not possible if ALL are vaccinated...FACT.
Please don't get me wrong, but I simply do not understand that sentence.
Is there a word missing? What am I not getting about the meaning??