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I posted the entire article verbatim without "Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences".

This is the CDC site on reported adverse events including possible deaths. It is updated regularly. As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens.

[www.cdc.gov]

After a quick look, I don't see any info. on the new problem of pericarditis and myocarditis (i.e. heart problems) amongst young people who have taken the vaccine, but I could have missed it.
Maybe they need more time to research the problems, and hopefully will update the site asap as it seems people need to know these risks, however small they might be.

Absolutely. I posted a link to an article a while back regarding the vaccine causing false positives in mammograms, due to the unusually swollen lymph nodes in some women following vaccination. In my opinion, that's a big deal but, as you say, crickets on that site. It stands to reason that they will pick and choose what they report but there's enough there to give me pause. My heart is already swollen due to a faulty aortic valve, similar to what Mick had surgery for. So I'm standing well back. Thanks for posting those links. Very helpful.

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As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens

So is a shark attack, after getting chased out of the water by an 8 ft bull shark a couple years ago, and having covid last year, hoping I don't get strike 3 soon.

Glad you survived both the shark and the covid!

No matter how "rare" shark attacks might be, when there's even a sighting of a shark, most beaches will have warning signs put up.
At some beaches here in California and in Hawaii (and probably Florida and elsewhere), the signs are permanent fixtures even though an actual attack may have never even happened.
Yet there will be many who live with their head in the sand completely ignoring the warnings, and chances are they'll be safe, but then there's that one attack that will justify all the warning signs.
The same should be done with all vaccines and medications that have caused problems - sure they're probably 99.9% safe, but there's that .1% who might not be so lucky.

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As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens

So is a shark attack, after getting chased out of the water by an 8 ft bull shark a couple years ago, and having covid last year, hoping I don't get strike 3 soon.

Glad you survived both the shark and the covid!

No matter how "rare" shark attacks might be, when there's even a sighting of a shark, most beaches will have warning signs put up.
At some beaches here in California and in Hawaii (and probably Florida and elsewhere), the signs are permanent fixtures even though an actual attack may have never even happened.
Yet there will be many who live with their head in the sand completely ignoring the warnings, and chances are they'll be safe, but then there's that one attack that will justify all the warning signs.
The same should be done with all vaccines and medications that have caused problems - sure they're probably 99.9% safe, but there's that .1% who might not be so lucky.

I've walked Central Park after dark and lived to tell the tale. People thought I was crazy.

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As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens

So is a shark attack, after getting chased out of the water by an 8 ft bull shark a couple years ago, and having covid last year, hoping I don't get strike 3 soon.

Glad you survived both the shark and the covid!

No matter how "rare" shark attacks might be, when there's even a sighting of a shark, most beaches will have warning signs put up.
At some beaches here in California and in Hawaii (and probably Florida and elsewhere), the signs are permanent fixtures even though an actual attack may have never even happened.
Yet there will be many who live with their head in the sand completely ignoring the warnings, and chances are they'll be safe, but then there's that one attack that will justify all the warning signs.
The same should be done with all vaccines and medications that have caused problems - sure they're probably 99.9% safe, but there's that .1% who might not be so lucky.

I've walked Central Park after dark and lived to tell the tale. People thought I was crazy.

Wazza matta wich you boy!

If there is anything more T****ian than T****, its China. Praise those who are on your side, demonize anyone who is not. Doesnt matter they were on your side last week, what have you done for me lately?

Funny how that guy resembles all those he puts down. That small room with bars and "security" right outside, soon come...not soon enuff.

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I think I’d prefer to be infected with CovID than hatred.

Who said anything about hatred?

Hate...that is a very strong word, don't think I have ever felt that emotion very sincerely.

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I recall someone posting a comment hoping that a bunch of people at some White House ceremony died of CovID. If that isn’t hate...

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I posted the entire article verbatim without "Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences".

This is the CDC site on reported adverse events including possible deaths. It is updated regularly. As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens.

[www.cdc.gov]

Is catching Covid rare? Dying from it rare?

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As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens

So is a shark attack, after getting chased out of the water by an 8 ft bull shark a couple years ago, and having covid last year, hoping I don't get strike 3 soon.

Glad you survived both the shark and the covid!

No matter how "rare" shark attacks might be, when there's even a sighting of a shark, most beaches will have warning signs put up.
At some beaches here in California and in Hawaii (and probably Florida and elsewhere), the signs are permanent fixtures even though an actual attack may have never even happened.
Yet there will be many who live with their head in the sand completely ignoring the warnings, and chances are they'll be safe, but then there's that one attack that will justify all the warning signs.
The same should be done with all vaccines and medications that have caused problems - sure they're probably 99.9% safe, but there's that .1% who might not be so lucky.

Man I was in the water maybe shoulder deep with my kid and 2 of his friends on floaters, I saw everyone on the beach jump up and stsrt pointing our way, I turned around and seen the fin heading our way, I said "shark, head to the beach" (which is probably the last thing you should do!), and we all ran out and turned around, the thing was in about 2 feet of water thrashing around. Closest I ever want to see one again. In all reality it was chasing a fish, we were no match for its speed, but still...scary to see that fin coming at you!

Mask confusion continues.............

From NPR:

Mask Or No Mask? Confusion Persists As Businesses Decide On Policies
May 25, 2021

The Mask

Since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic, Michigan has been at the center of the mask-wearing debate, and it intensified after hundreds of residents flooded the Michigan State Capitol to protest the governor's stay-at-home orders and mask mandates. Today the decision to wear or not wear a mask is seen in Michigan by many as a political statement. But it's one that Michigan restaurant owner Travis Stoliker is not interested in making. "Even today, we had individuals walking in without masks, saying that the [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] said I didn't need to wear a mask. And that puts us in the unfortunate position of being the mask police," he said. Tim Westlund, owner of Westlund's Apple Market, a neighborhood grocery store in Lansing, said the state's decision to lift the mask mandate puts him in a difficult position. "The last thing I want to do is refuse people and to refuse a sale. We need to sell product because that's what we're in the business of doing," he added.

While state regulators are planning to update COVID-19 workplace regulations to be consistent with guidance from the CDC, Michigan businesses are still required to have employees wear masks regardless of their vaccination status. According to Michigan Chamber of Commerce CEO Rich Studley, the state needs to allow businesses to decide what kind of regulations they want to implement. "There are a lot of business owners, especially small-business owners, who are now, as a result of the miscommunication and confusion, completely confused," he said. "Are they supposed to be the mask police or the vaccine police or both? It's almost a paralyzing situation now."

Drew Petrowski, a Lansing resident, is fully vaccinated, and while he welcomes the change in Michigan's mask mandate, he said it hasn't yet meant that he can take off his mask as freely as he would like. "I just hate the idea that the decision that I make regarding my mask would let people think that they understand my political leanings," he said. Petrowski is not planning to wear a mask unless a business he frequents requires it. But west Michigan resident Alli Roman doesn't feel comfortable going into a business where she may encounter unmasked individuals. "Even though I am fully vaccinated, I might do curbside or pickup or delivery a little bit more often, just so that I can avoid others who may or may not be vaccinated and without masks," she explained.

Daniel Kinderman, a business professor at the University of Delaware, whose research focuses on the impact that businesses have on society and the environment, said the guidelines used in Michigan don't set up businesses for success. "There are many unknowns. And we are sailing in uncharted waters. So I think in general, it's good to have freedom to choose," he said. "But I'm not sure that the freedom that many business owners have right now is ... a blessing." Stoliker and Westlund are among those who want more guidance on how to navigate those waters. For now they will be forced to wait until July 1, when COVID-19 mandates in the state are expected to be lifted for all Michiganders regardless of vaccination status.

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The funniest part is that substory about Boris J****** wanting to get injected with corona virus live on tv. That would be fun. Oh what fun. Reminds me of the time Jerry Brown's aide de camp while he was governor, BT Collins, drank Malathion at a press conference, said "see it can't hurt you" and then immediately left the stage and blew his guts out into the nearest trash can. And was then deathly ill for days afterward. Researchers later discovered the chemical was particularly hard on house siding paint. They never did research the effects on the human digestive system.

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I have read though that CovID was found in blood samples taken in Italy (for purposes of studies on cancer?) much earlier than the known outbreak in China. I can’t recall the source though.

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Some idiots view masks as some kind of totalitarian jackboot on their civil rights. Please. It's a friggin' thin paper mask that might (or might not) prevent you from getting Covid. I think it's effect on the flu is evidence enough. In the U.S. we went from thousands of cases in 2019, to hundreds in 2020. And the common cold is way down.

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I have read though that CovID was found in blood samples taken in Italy (for purposes of studies on cancer?) much earlier than the known outbreak in China. I can’t recall the source though.

"The known outbreak in China" ... Covid-19 was very likely already around in China well before "it became known". Chinese whistleblowers were already "disappearing". Having found it in blood samples in Italy should not be a surprise, because there was a very extensive exchange for quite some time between China and Italy in connection with fashion retail. Many Chinese were active there in Northern Italy.
Whether it came from a lab or from animals, well the human race received a clear message: don't mess around with health endangering "creatures". But having said that, we (those who are really interested) know what f.i. Germans an Japanese did to humans via all kinds of terrible medical experiments during WW2, and for sure those kind of experiments are still ongoing in "shady countries".

"Let's drink to the two thousand million who need leading but get gamblers instead" (J/R 1969).

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Quite possibly. In fact, if I remember correctly the blood was sampled from various areas in Italy. And, those areas with a greater connection to China (number of Chinese residents?) had more instances of infected blood.

From CNN:

The Covid-19 origin story has massive political consequences

A growing storm over the origins in China of Covid-19 has explosive political implications for the United States at home and abroad, as well as the dueling legacies of two presidents that will be defined by the pandemic.
President Joe Biden on Wednesday told Americans he had ordered US intelligence agencies to report in 90 days on whether the virus originated not in animals and spread to humans but might have escaped from a Chinese laboratory. The move deepened a mystery encompassing the pernicious spread of a deadly pathogen, an intricate epidemiological puzzle, the opacity of a totalitarian system and the bitter overtones of a superpower rivalry. It will fan doubts about the World Health Organization's capacity to tease out lessons from the current crisis in order to prevent future pandemics. In the US, it leaves both the former Trump administration and the Biden White House facing calls for transparency about their efforts to establish how the virus started and whether politics tainted their investigative efforts. If it turns out the virus did escape from a laboratory, former President Donald Trump may be able to claim some vindication. But it would also highlight how his repeated habit of trashing the truth and bending intelligence to suit his own political ends shattered his credibility on this and other issues.

The focus on the laboratory theory in recent days multiplied calls in Washington for the US to make China pay a price for the pandemic, even before the full extent of its origins are known, adding more toxicity to a geopolitical joust that may spark a new Cold War. But finding answers will be hard. China has every reason to cover up a virus that stained its prestige as a rising and sophisticated power with nearly 3.5 million people dead worldwide. Its nationalist leader Xi Jinping and the Communist Party have no time for shame of culpability that would mar their core case to the world -- that their one party rule is a better fit for the 21st century than democracy -- a narrative Biden has publicly vowed to combat. Facing his own political pressure, Biden laid out two theories seen as "likely" by US intelligence on the origin of the virus in a statement on Wednesday. The first has long been regarded as the most credible possibility by public health experts -- that there was zoonotic spread, possibly from live animals in a "wet" market in the Chinese city of Wuhan, to humans. But while cautioning there was no definitive conclusion yet, the President said that "one element" of the US intelligence community "leans" toward the possibility that the virus escaped from a laboratory in Wuhan.

Biden's notable public statement came as he felt rising political heat after the Wall Street Journal revealed that several Chinese virologists sought hospital treatment late last year for an unidentified ailment. CNN then reported that the Biden administration had shut down a probe launched in the waning days of the Trump State Department to prove Covid-19 came from a Chinese lab. While the State Department later said the inquiry had simply been completed, several sources involved who spoke to CNN said it was their impression there was more work to be done. The Biden administration is now facing calls to show it took the possibility of Chinese culpability sufficiently seriously especially since prominent Trump team officials and Republicans are launching a victory lap after last year promoting claims about the Wuhan lab -- mostly without any clear evidence. But Trump supporters also appear to be making another attempt to whitewash history of his disastrous handling of a pandemic that killed hundreds of thousands on his watch.

'No cherry picking'

The medical and political priority now is a credible, in-depth, investigation. Dr. Leana Wen, a CNN medical analyst and former Baltimore Health Commissioner, said on CNN "Newsroom" that such a probe needed to be based on a scientific method, "which means you don't go into this with a preferred conclusion and then cherry pick your data to fit that conclusion." Such concerns are why the Biden administration closed down the probe opened by ex-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, two sources told CNN's Kylie Atwood. The Trump administration, facing election-year blame for its botched handling of a pandemic the ex-President long downplayed, had a strong incentive to find Chinese negligence, whatever the real story was. It also had a record of shaping science and intelligence for political ends and rejecting inconvenient expertise. It now falls to the Biden administration to prove that it has the clout and willingness to track down the origin of the virus. There will be questions whether intelligence agencies, given the notorious difficulty of penetrating the Chinese security state, represent the best way of finding the truth. It is not yet clear whether China fully understands the origin of the virus. And the starting points of pandemics can be difficult to pinpoint. "Many of us feel that it is more likely that this is a natural occurrence ... where it goes from an animal reservoir to a human. But we don't know 100% the answer to that," Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government's top infectious diseases expert, said at a White House Covid-19 briefing Tuesday. But the Biden White House does have some political exposure on the issue. Last year, Democrats rebuked Trump for pulling out of the WHO on the grounds that it was dominated by China. The US rejoined the global body soon after the new President took office. If it turns out Beijing hoodwinked the WHO, which downplayed the laboratory theory, senior Trump officials can claim some vindication.

White House hardens line

In recent days, there has been a noticeable hardening of the US line toward the WHO and Beijing, and the White House has been covering its tracks.
"We have been saying that for a very long time that China needed to provide more access to the lab, cooperate more fully with the scientific investigators, and we don't think that they have met that standard," White House principal deputy press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said on Wednesday. Andy Slavitt, the White House's Covid-19 coordinator, said on Tuesday that the US needed a "completely transparent process from China. We need the WHO to assist in that matter. We don't feel like we have that now." His comments raised the question of whether the WHO, in its current configuration, has the diplomatic weight and capacity to conduct an investigation that China is likely to obstruct. "The World Health Organization is not capable of undertaking this investigation because, frankly, the Chinese won't allow it," Republican Sen. Marco Rubio argued on Fox News on Wednesday. The Florida senator is one of a number of Republicans who may run for President in 2024, and taking a hard line on China will be part of the price for entry into the primary race.

A victory lap

Trump administration veterans and supporters responded to the latest events by claiming they were right to fling accusations at China despite not yet having offered public evidence. "We need to know what happened here. The Chinese Communist Party knows what happened here. They know who patient zero was. They know precisely where this began," Pompeo said on Fox News on Monday. Pompeo is asking reasonable questions, even if he has political motives. The Chinese government was tardy in warning the rest of the world of the tragedy that was unfolding in Wuhan.| And the WHO appears to have struggled to secure timely and detailed answers about what was going on in late 2019 and early 2020 as the virus erupted. Indiana Republican Sen. Todd Young told CNN's Jake Tapper on Wednesday that the global health body needed to act fast to reestablish its reputation by persuading China to come up with more data about the origins of the virus. "I don't see any other way for the World Health Organization to restore its credibility in the eyes of Americans and many across the world, who have seen them, frankly, place more trust in the Chinese Communist Party leadership and more deference to them than they have to the Western world," Young said. The former head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Dr. Robert Redfield told CNN's Sanjay Gupta in documentary released in March that the most likely "aetiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory." Like other Trump officials, he could not prove it. Trump himself gave the impression back in May 2020 that he had some information about the origin of the virus, saying, "Something happened." "It came came from China. It should have been stopped. It could have been stopped on the spot," Trump said. The ex-President, however, frequently touted conspiracy theories, hunches and manipulated intelligence and facts to serve his own political argument. He also politicized the virus for his own ends. So, he was not seen as a particularly credible source. And the question remains -- if the Trump team had evidence of the lab theory, why did they not tell the world when they had every incentive to do so? Claims that Trump was "right" about Covid-19 also distract from his own culpability in mismanaging a virus that he repeatedly said was not a problem.

Whatever Covid-19's origin, history will condemn Trump for his neglect and denial once it reached US soil. He actually hampered US preparedness early in the crisis because he failed to pressure Beijing for answers. As he sought a China trade deal to burnish his reelection campaign, he fawned over China's President. Trump said in early 2020 that the Chinese were "working very hard" and doing "very well." Of Xi, Trump tweeted, "He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus." It was only when the impact of the virus became clear on his own election prospects that he changed his tune, bolstering the idea he has a political motivation in blaming China for pandemic.

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I posted the entire article verbatim without "Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences".

This is the CDC site on reported adverse events including possible deaths. It is updated regularly. As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens.

[www.cdc.gov]

Is catching Covid rare? Dying from it rare?

To answer your question, I was referring to adverse events after being vaccinated.
Edit to add: Off topic, you mentioned you were at this show (and possibly caught Covid that night) but, in case you weren't aware, there's a forthcoming release: [www.merchmountain.com]



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Hard not to get political, especially considering the above articles and the mention of Trump "praising" Xi. That's what politics are about and that was also in the early days. Now Trump is being blamed for anti-Asian hate crime because he emphasized that it came from China and in his typical bloviating fashion called it the "China virus". So which is it? And, again, I feel most of our so called leaders failed us big time.

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I recall someone posting a comment hoping that a bunch of people at some White House ceremony died of CovID. If that isn’t hate...

Ah. That might have even been me and the event might have even been that bit where the guy cleared the garden of peaceful assembly by using stormtroopers to do so, so his supporters could gather without masks and listen to him literally thump the Bible, a volume he does not seem particularly familiar with.

Oh, that. Yeah well lets just say I was being metaphorical. Or if it wasn't me said it, I certainly agree with the sentiment in a metaphorical sense. But I am sure all those folks are just fine, being as it was all a big hoax anyways.

Have a nice unhateful day now.

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California now jumping on the incentives bandwagon...

(CNN) California will unveil $116.5 million in vaccine incentives

Vaccine$$$

In an effort to get more people vaccinated, California is enticing residents with a whopping $116.5 million in incentives, offering gift cards and cash prizes, including a $15 million grand prize to be split among 10 Californians who have been vaccinated against Covid-19. The $116.5 million program, touted as "the biggest in the entire country," will include every resident who has already been vaccinated, and those who receive a shot before the state fully reopens on June 15, according to a release from Gov. Gavin Newsom's office.

Starting today, the next two million residents vaccinated will be eligible for $100 million in gift cards, doled out in $50 increments as a prepaid Visa or grocery store gift card. The incentive festivities will include "$50,000 Fridays." There will be $50,000 up for grabs in the form of 30 cash prizes for those getting a Covid-19 shot on June 4 and June 11, with 15 winners selected on each date.

About 50% of eligible Californians are already fully vaccinated and another 12% have received one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine, but another 12 million residents are eligible but have not yet been inoculated. More than 37 million doses total have been administered in California — more than all but five nations in the world, according to Newsom. Should a winner under the age of 18 be chosen, the cash will be placed into a savings account for them until they turn 18. Inmates, those who work for the state's health department or for the lottery will not be eligible to win any of the prizes.

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I posted the entire article verbatim without "Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences".

This is the CDC site on reported adverse events including possible deaths. It is updated regularly. As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens.

[www.cdc.gov]

Is catching Covid rare? Dying from it rare?

To answer your question, I was referring to adverse events after being vaccinated.
Edit to add: Off topic, you mentioned you were at this show (and possibly caught Covid that night) but, in case you weren't aware, there's a forthcoming release: [www.merchmountain.com]

I have the livestream capture and my audience recording. Was a fun show. I generally pass on the physical media at this point.

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California now jumping on the incentives bandwagon...

(CNN) California will unveil $116.5 million in vaccine incentives

Vaccine$$$

In an effort to get more people vaccinated, California is enticing residents with a whopping $116.5 million in incentives, offering gift cards and cash prizes, including a $15 million grand prize to be split among 10 Californians who have been vaccinated against Covid-19. The $116.5 million program, touted as "the biggest in the entire country," will include every resident who has already been vaccinated, and those who receive a shot before the state fully reopens on June 15, according to a release from Gov. Gavin Newsom's office.

Starting today, the next two million residents vaccinated will be eligible for $100 million in gift cards, doled out in $50 increments as a prepaid Visa or grocery store gift card. The incentive festivities will include "$50,000 Fridays." There will be $50,000 up for grabs in the form of 30 cash prizes for those getting a Covid-19 shot on June 4 and June 11, with 15 winners selected on each date.

About 50% of eligible Californians are already fully vaccinated and another 12% have received one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine, but another 12 million residents are eligible but have not yet been inoculated. More than 37 million doses total have been administered in California — more than all but five nations in the world, according to Newsom. Should a winner under the age of 18 be chosen, the cash will be placed into a savings account for them until they turn 18. Inmates, those who work for the state's health department or for the lottery will not be eligible to win any of the prizes.

I wish this was not necessary but if it puts shots in arms I am all for it. I will have to use this on the cute bank teller at my bank who is hesitant. She is the target market.

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California now jumping on the incentives bandwagon...

(CNN) California will unveil $116.5 million in vaccine incentives

Vaccine$$$

In an effort to get more people vaccinated, California is enticing residents with a whopping $116.5 million in incentives, offering gift cards and cash prizes, including a $15 million grand prize to be split among 10 Californians who have been vaccinated against Covid-19. The $116.5 million program, touted as "the biggest in the entire country," will include every resident who has already been vaccinated, and those who receive a shot before the state fully reopens on June 15, according to a release from Gov. Gavin Newsom's office.

Starting today, the next two million residents vaccinated will be eligible for $100 million in gift cards, doled out in $50 increments as a prepaid Visa or grocery store gift card. The incentive festivities will include "$50,000 Fridays." There will be $50,000 up for grabs in the form of 30 cash prizes for those getting a Covid-19 shot on June 4 and June 11, with 15 winners selected on each date.

About 50% of eligible Californians are already fully vaccinated and another 12% have received one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine, but another 12 million residents are eligible but have not yet been inoculated. More than 37 million doses total have been administered in California — more than all but five nations in the world, according to Newsom. Should a winner under the age of 18 be chosen, the cash will be placed into a savings account for them until they turn 18. Inmates, those who work for the state's health department or for the lottery will not be eligible to win any of the prizes.

I wish this was not necessary but if it puts shots in arms I am all for it. I will have to use this on the cute bank teller at my bank who is hesitant. She is the target market.

And if it's necessary here in California, imagine other states where the hesitancy/antivaxx percentages are much larger.
Money, donuts, and beer can only get you so far...it's gonna take a miracle...

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Money, donuts and beer???

Shit, sign me up!

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