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Well, this past Saturday afternoon, I visited the pub for the first time since November last year. Aside from table-service and having to wear a covering when visiting the gents, it felt normal enough. Actually, it felt identical to the first ‘unlocking’ last year. Here’s hoping Boris frees is entirely at the end of next month!
As a non-American it strikes me that those three states have a republican senator. Coincidence? Apart from (global) war situations and international politics the word "United" in United States of America appears to have no real meaning when dealing with important internal issues like Covid-19.
The EU isn't much different, but at least we don't pretend to be the US(C)E, or United States (Countries) of Europe.
I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town
We have 2 parties - both bad - all they do is fight w/ each other and try to block (or undo) what the other is doing.
it's the ultimate dysfunctional relationship and it doesn't even matter what the issue is....
....which is why our country is doomed to failure as a "united" states.
....so is the EU, but for different reasons.
IMO.
Not to simplify the United States government, but the original concept was the federal government and state governments have equal power, that is the federal government was more for protecting the border and infrastructure, most everything else was left to the states to decide how they wanted to handle.
And yes apart from slavery this was the other biggest reason for the civil war. The union wanted more federal power, the confederates wanted the equal sharing of power as our founding fathers intended.
Seems the CDC has become out of touch with the reality of it all
Have to agree with these two who speak common sense in the simplest terms....
"We are driving blind, and we will miss a lot of signals. The C.D.C. is a surveillance agency.
How can you do surveillance and pick one number and not look at the whole?”
-Dr. Ali Mokdad, epidemiologist at the University of Washington and a former senior scientist at the C.D.C.
“The virus is constantly changing, and we need to stay three steps ahead of it. What if a variant arises that is less responsive or, Lord forbid, unresponsive to the vaccines?
The way you stop it is good old-fashioned epidemiology, which the C.D.C. has historically done very well. But if you don’t see it coming, you can’t stop it.”
-Michael Kinch, immunologist/associate vice chancellor of the Centers for Research Innovation in Biotechnology at Washington University in St. Louis
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-05-25 23:42 by Hairball.
I posted the entire article verbatim without "Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences".
Seems the same site posted two different stories, and this is the one I posted - unedited. Mom of Conn. Teen Speaks After Son Suffers Heart Condition Days After COVID-19 Vaccine
This story was published May 25, 2021 • Updated on May 25, 2021 at 1:00 pm, while the story you posted was published May 24, 2021 • Updated on May 25, 2021 at 7:54 am.
I don't spend time editing stories - I simply post them when I think they are relevant to this thread.
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And here is another story from the New York Times on the same topic dated and posted here May 22 in it's entirety - unedited:
C.D.C. Is Investigating a Heart Problem in a Few Young Vaccine Recipients
"The agency is reviewing several dozen reports that teenagers and young adults may have developed myocarditis
after vaccination, officials said. But the agency has not determined whether the vaccine caused the condition".
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2021-05-26 19:53 by Hairball.
Maybe they're behind this move:
Pompeo-led effort to hunt down Covid lab theory shut down by Biden
This is the CDC site on reported adverse events including possible deaths. It is updated regularly. As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens.
[www.cdc.gov]
The vaccines are in full swing so he's outlived his usefulness. History will not be kind to Tony.
So is a shark attack, after getting chased out of the water by an 8 ft bull shark a couple years ago, and having covid last year, hoping I don't get strike 3 soon.
After a quick look, I don't see any info. on the new problem of pericarditis and myocarditis (i.e. heart problems) amongst young people who have taken the vaccine, but I could have missed it.
Maybe they need more time to research the problems, and hopefully will update the site asap as it seems people need to know these risks, however small they might be.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
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Date: May 24, 2021 06:30
I caught a cold last weekend it seems. Sore throat, runny nose, stuffy head, a cough.
I've been vaxxed for COVID-19.
It's just a cold. Whatever that means nowadays.
I've been vaxxed for COVID-19.
It's just a cold. Whatever that means nowadays.
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Date: May 24, 2021 08:45
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May 17 in England supposedly sees the reopening of public houses and eateries for inside dining and drinking. Boris is holding a press conference this evening amidst calls to push-back the date due to the spread of this Indian variant. I have a table booked for Saturday May 28. Fingers-crossed for me and my fellow England-based posters'!
Well, this past Saturday afternoon, I visited the pub for the first time since November last year. Aside from table-service and having to wear a covering when visiting the gents, it felt normal enough. Actually, it felt identical to the first ‘unlocking’ last year. Here’s hoping Boris frees is entirely at the end of next month!
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
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Date: May 25, 2021 00:29
More stories coming out since Rockman posted article yesterday...this from NBS News:
U.S. intel report identified 3 Wuhan lab researchers who fell ill in November 2019
Wuhan
The details add to circumstantial evidence supporting a theory Covid-19 spread to humans after escaping from a lab.
But the evidence is far from conclusive.
WASHINGTON — A U.S. intelligence report identified three researchers at a Wuhan lab who sought treatment at a hospital after falling ill in November 2019, a source familiar with the matter tells NBC News. The new details, first reported by The Wall Street Journal, add to the body of circumstantial evidence that supports a hypothesis that the Covid-19 virus may have spread to humans after it escaped from a Chinese research lab in Wuhan. But the evidence is far from conclusive. This reporting adds a new level of detail to the information put out in a Department of State fact sheet last year, which said the United States had confirmed that researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology had fallen ill. "The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both Covid-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli's public claim that there was 'zero infection' among the WIV's staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses,” the fact sheet said.
In February, NBC News reported that the U.S. intelligence agencies had not ruled out the possibility of a lab accident, noting that a growing number of scientists are urging an investigation into that possibility. The other theory is that the virus was transmitted to humans through an animal host. After a year and half of looking, no such host has been identified. U.S. officials say that unless China allows more access to records and people, they may never get to the bottom of it. In April 2020, NBC News reported that the U.S. had indications as far back as November of a possible health crisis in Wuhan. “The most important implications of this would be to show that Wuhan Insititute of Virology director Shi Zhengli was not being truthful when she said that no one in the institute had been ill in that time period,” said Jamie Metzl, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and a former national security official in the Clinton administration, who has been calling for an investigation into the lab theory. “Because so much of the argument against a possible lab incident origin of the pandemic depends on the word of Dr. Shi, proving her an unreliable source would essentially destroy the most significant argument that’s been used to counter the lab incident." Metzl noted that Shi’s claim that there were no Chinese military experiments in the lab has also been contradicted by the State Department, which said last year that the lab “has collaborated on publications and secret projects with China’s military.” Metzl is calling on the Biden administration to release the evidence used to make the assessments about the Chinese military and the three sick researchers.
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U.S. intel report identified 3 Wuhan lab researchers who fell ill in November 2019
Wuhan
The details add to circumstantial evidence supporting a theory Covid-19 spread to humans after escaping from a lab.
But the evidence is far from conclusive.
WASHINGTON — A U.S. intelligence report identified three researchers at a Wuhan lab who sought treatment at a hospital after falling ill in November 2019, a source familiar with the matter tells NBC News. The new details, first reported by The Wall Street Journal, add to the body of circumstantial evidence that supports a hypothesis that the Covid-19 virus may have spread to humans after it escaped from a Chinese research lab in Wuhan. But the evidence is far from conclusive. This reporting adds a new level of detail to the information put out in a Department of State fact sheet last year, which said the United States had confirmed that researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology had fallen ill. "The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both Covid-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli's public claim that there was 'zero infection' among the WIV's staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses,” the fact sheet said.
In February, NBC News reported that the U.S. intelligence agencies had not ruled out the possibility of a lab accident, noting that a growing number of scientists are urging an investigation into that possibility. The other theory is that the virus was transmitted to humans through an animal host. After a year and half of looking, no such host has been identified. U.S. officials say that unless China allows more access to records and people, they may never get to the bottom of it. In April 2020, NBC News reported that the U.S. had indications as far back as November of a possible health crisis in Wuhan. “The most important implications of this would be to show that Wuhan Insititute of Virology director Shi Zhengli was not being truthful when she said that no one in the institute had been ill in that time period,” said Jamie Metzl, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and a former national security official in the Clinton administration, who has been calling for an investigation into the lab theory. “Because so much of the argument against a possible lab incident origin of the pandemic depends on the word of Dr. Shi, proving her an unreliable source would essentially destroy the most significant argument that’s been used to counter the lab incident." Metzl noted that Shi’s claim that there were no Chinese military experiments in the lab has also been contradicted by the State Department, which said last year that the lab “has collaborated on publications and secret projects with China’s military.” Metzl is calling on the Biden administration to release the evidence used to make the assessments about the Chinese military and the three sick researchers.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
Hairball
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Date: May 25, 2021 05:04
From CNBC:
U.S. should dig deeper into theory that Covid originated in a Wuhan lab, ex-Clinton official says
Wuhan
- Atlantic Council senior fellow Jamie Metzl organized last year a group of scientists and academics to call for a deeper investigation into Covid’s origins.
- He told host Shepard Smith that it’s “critically important” to find answers about the pandemic’s origins because if we don’t, it puts everyone “unnecessarily at risk.”
The U.S. should be playing a larger role in getting to the bottom of the theory that Covid-19 first leaked from a virology lab in Wuhan, China, Atlantic Council senior fellow Jamie Metzl told CNBC on Monday. “Right now, the World Health Assembly is meeting, and the United States should be doing everything possible with our allies to demand a comprehensive investigation into Covid origins with full access to all the records, samples, and personnel in China and beyond,” Metzl, a former national security official in the Clinton administration, said on “The News with Shepard Smith.” “If China wants to thumb its nose at the rest of the world, in spite of more than 3 million people dead, let them make that statement,” he said. White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Monday that determining the origins of Covid-19 is up to an international investigation led by the World Health Organization, and that the U.S. cannot lead a probe on its own. Metzl organized last year a group of scientists and academics to call for a deeper investigation into Covid’s origins. He told host Shepard Smith that it’s “critically important” to find answers about the pandemic’s origins because if we don’t, it puts everyone “unnecessarily at risk.” The White House did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment.
A previously undisclosed U.S. intelligence report found that researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology sought hospital care after falling ill “with symptoms consistent with both Covid-19 and common seasonal illness,” The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday, quoting from the report. The World Health Organization has repeatedly said the virus most likely jumped from bats to humans through another animal. It has described the theory that the virus leaked from a lab as “extremely unlikely,” but has not ruled it out. Metzl said he thinks the theory is a “likely hypothesis.” “Why would you have a bat coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan and not in southern China, where the horseshoe bats are located? And what we know that they do have in Wuhan, is China’s only level 4 virology institute, with the world’s largest collection of bat coronaviruses, that was doing aggressive research designed to make those pathogens more dangerous,” Metzl said.
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U.S. should dig deeper into theory that Covid originated in a Wuhan lab, ex-Clinton official says
Wuhan
- Atlantic Council senior fellow Jamie Metzl organized last year a group of scientists and academics to call for a deeper investigation into Covid’s origins.
- He told host Shepard Smith that it’s “critically important” to find answers about the pandemic’s origins because if we don’t, it puts everyone “unnecessarily at risk.”
The U.S. should be playing a larger role in getting to the bottom of the theory that Covid-19 first leaked from a virology lab in Wuhan, China, Atlantic Council senior fellow Jamie Metzl told CNBC on Monday. “Right now, the World Health Assembly is meeting, and the United States should be doing everything possible with our allies to demand a comprehensive investigation into Covid origins with full access to all the records, samples, and personnel in China and beyond,” Metzl, a former national security official in the Clinton administration, said on “The News with Shepard Smith.” “If China wants to thumb its nose at the rest of the world, in spite of more than 3 million people dead, let them make that statement,” he said. White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Monday that determining the origins of Covid-19 is up to an international investigation led by the World Health Organization, and that the U.S. cannot lead a probe on its own. Metzl organized last year a group of scientists and academics to call for a deeper investigation into Covid’s origins. He told host Shepard Smith that it’s “critically important” to find answers about the pandemic’s origins because if we don’t, it puts everyone “unnecessarily at risk.” The White House did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment.
A previously undisclosed U.S. intelligence report found that researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology sought hospital care after falling ill “with symptoms consistent with both Covid-19 and common seasonal illness,” The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday, quoting from the report. The World Health Organization has repeatedly said the virus most likely jumped from bats to humans through another animal. It has described the theory that the virus leaked from a lab as “extremely unlikely,” but has not ruled it out. Metzl said he thinks the theory is a “likely hypothesis.” “Why would you have a bat coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan and not in southern China, where the horseshoe bats are located? And what we know that they do have in Wuhan, is China’s only level 4 virology institute, with the world’s largest collection of bat coronaviruses, that was doing aggressive research designed to make those pathogens more dangerous,” Metzl said.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
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Date: May 25, 2021 05:12
Psaki: I think you’re misunderstanding how this process actually works
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
Hairball
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Date: May 25, 2021 06:11
From CNN:
Alabama governor signs bill banning Covid-19 vaccine passports
Alabama
(CNN)Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey on Monday signed a bill into law banning the use of so-called vaccine passports in the state.
The law, which went into effect immediately, prohibits any government entity from issuing vaccine passports while blocking businesses from requiring any such documentation.
"I am supportive of a voluntary vaccine and by signing this bill into law, I am only further solidifying that conviction," Ivey said in a statement after signing the legislation. "I made the choice to get the COVID-19 vaccine and glad for the peace of mind it brings. I encourage any Alabamian who has not gotten their shot to roll up their sleeves, and if you have questions, consult with your health care provider." The legislation, which cleared the state Legislature earlier this month, defines vaccine passports broadly as "documentation of an immunization." Schools in the state "may continue to require a student to prove vaccination status as a condition of attendance only for the specific vaccines that were already required by the institution as of January 1, 2021, provided that the institutions give an exemption for students with a medical condition or religious belief that is contrary to vaccination," according to the text of the law.
Alabama is just the latest state to put restrictions on requiring proof that a person has been immunized against Covid-19. Some health experts argue that such proof of vaccination can be the ticket back to normalcy, saying it could reward people for getting vaccinated by allowing them into a crowded concert or ballgame, as well as offer the vaccinated peace of mind that the person next to them has been immunized, too. But critics have stressed privacy concerns and characterized vaccine passports as an overreach by authorities. Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis cited freedom of choice as a reason for signing legislation banning vaccine passports earlier this month, saying, "In Florida, your personal choice regarding vaccinations will be protected and no business or government entity will be able to deny you services based on your decision." Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, in a video posted to Twitter, argued that "government should not require any Texan to show proof of vaccination and reveal private health information just to go about their daily lives." The Republican last month issued an executive order prohibiting government-mandated proof of inoculation in his state. On the national level, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in March there will be "no centralized universal federal vaccinations database, and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential. ... We want to encourage an open marketplace with a variety of private sector companies and nonprofit coalitions developing solutions."
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Alabama governor signs bill banning Covid-19 vaccine passports
Alabama
(CNN)Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey on Monday signed a bill into law banning the use of so-called vaccine passports in the state.
The law, which went into effect immediately, prohibits any government entity from issuing vaccine passports while blocking businesses from requiring any such documentation.
"I am supportive of a voluntary vaccine and by signing this bill into law, I am only further solidifying that conviction," Ivey said in a statement after signing the legislation. "I made the choice to get the COVID-19 vaccine and glad for the peace of mind it brings. I encourage any Alabamian who has not gotten their shot to roll up their sleeves, and if you have questions, consult with your health care provider." The legislation, which cleared the state Legislature earlier this month, defines vaccine passports broadly as "documentation of an immunization." Schools in the state "may continue to require a student to prove vaccination status as a condition of attendance only for the specific vaccines that were already required by the institution as of January 1, 2021, provided that the institutions give an exemption for students with a medical condition or religious belief that is contrary to vaccination," according to the text of the law.
Alabama is just the latest state to put restrictions on requiring proof that a person has been immunized against Covid-19. Some health experts argue that such proof of vaccination can be the ticket back to normalcy, saying it could reward people for getting vaccinated by allowing them into a crowded concert or ballgame, as well as offer the vaccinated peace of mind that the person next to them has been immunized, too. But critics have stressed privacy concerns and characterized vaccine passports as an overreach by authorities. Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis cited freedom of choice as a reason for signing legislation banning vaccine passports earlier this month, saying, "In Florida, your personal choice regarding vaccinations will be protected and no business or government entity will be able to deny you services based on your decision." Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, in a video posted to Twitter, argued that "government should not require any Texan to show proof of vaccination and reveal private health information just to go about their daily lives." The Republican last month issued an executive order prohibiting government-mandated proof of inoculation in his state. On the national level, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in March there will be "no centralized universal federal vaccinations database, and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential. ... We want to encourage an open marketplace with a variety of private sector companies and nonprofit coalitions developing solutions."
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
georgie48
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Date: May 25, 2021 09:20
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Hairball
From CNN:
Alabama governor signs bill banning Covid-19 vaccine passports
Alabama
(CNN)Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey on Monday signed a bill into law banning the use of so-called vaccine passports in the state.
The law, which went into effect immediately, prohibits any government entity from issuing vaccine passports while blocking businesses from requiring any such documentation.
"I am supportive of a voluntary vaccine and by signing this bill into law, I am only further solidifying that conviction," Ivey said in a statement after signing the legislation. "I made the choice to get the COVID-19 vaccine and glad for the peace of mind it brings. I encourage any Alabamian who has not gotten their shot to roll up their sleeves, and if you have questions, consult with your health care provider." The legislation, which cleared the state Legislature earlier this month, defines vaccine passports broadly as "documentation of an immunization." Schools in the state "may continue to require a student to prove vaccination status as a condition of attendance only for the specific vaccines that were already required by the institution as of January 1, 2021, provided that the institutions give an exemption for students with a medical condition or religious belief that is contrary to vaccination," according to the text of the law.
Alabama is just the latest state to put restrictions on requiring proof that a person has been immunized against Covid-19. Some health experts argue that such proof of vaccination can be the ticket back to normalcy, saying it could reward people for getting vaccinated by allowing them into a crowded concert or ballgame, as well as offer the vaccinated peace of mind that the person next to them has been immunized, too. But critics have stressed privacy concerns and characterized vaccine passports as an overreach by authorities. Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis cited freedom of choice as a reason for signing legislation banning vaccine passports earlier this month, saying, "In Florida, your personal choice regarding vaccinations will be protected and no business or government entity will be able to deny you services based on your decision." Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, in a video posted to Twitter, argued that "government should not require any Texan to show proof of vaccination and reveal private health information just to go about their daily lives." The Republican last month issued an executive order prohibiting government-mandated proof of inoculation in his state. On the national level, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in March there will be "no centralized universal federal vaccinations database, and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential. ... We want to encourage an open marketplace with a variety of private sector companies and nonprofit coalitions developing solutions."
As a non-American it strikes me that those three states have a republican senator. Coincidence? Apart from (global) war situations and international politics the word "United" in United States of America appears to have no real meaning when dealing with important internal issues like Covid-19.
The EU isn't much different, but at least we don't pretend to be the US(C)E, or United States (Countries) of Europe.
I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
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Date: May 25, 2021 09:44
Queensland scientists develop new drugs that could prevent COVID-19
Scientists in Queensland have developed two drugs that could not only prevent infection of coronavirus but also stop it spreading through people already positive.
Experts at the QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute have identified peptide-based drugs they believe could revolutionalise treatment of covid-19.
The drugs, which could be available within 18 months should trials be successful, move to target how human cells react to the virus, rather than developing antibodies against the virus through a vaccine.
The Nature Cell Discovery journal listed the findings on Monday night, noting a shift in planning for the next stage of coronavirus treatment.
Professor Sudha Rao, a Senior Researcher at QIMR Berghofer, told the ABC the peptides were an 'early prevention drug', working together in two important roles.
'The first treatment works by blocking the virus from entering as it effectively acts like a padlock on the human cells,' she said.
Researchers have discovered a new way the virus enters cells, through their AC2 receptors, which they believe will be critical to further development of drugs to preventing coronavirus.
'Once it enters it can use the cellular machinery in the human cells to replicate, and knowing that… one drug really acts like a cloak around the human cell and therefore prevents the virus from entering through the AC2 receptor.' Professor Rao said.
'Whereas the second drug… if the virus does enter, the drug is specifically there to prevent the virus from replicating.'
The peptides will be effective against all mutations of the virus because the cells work in the same manner, unlike the requirement for constant updates for vaccines.
They say early results are 'very promising' and hope to introduce clinical human trials within the coming months.
QIMR Berghofer are working with a consortium of European scientists as well, and believe a roll-out of the drugs would be rapid given the availability of peptides and their ability to be stored and transported at room temperature.
Scientists in Queensland have developed two drugs that could not only prevent infection of coronavirus but also stop it spreading through people already positive.
Experts at the QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute have identified peptide-based drugs they believe could revolutionalise treatment of covid-19.
The drugs, which could be available within 18 months should trials be successful, move to target how human cells react to the virus, rather than developing antibodies against the virus through a vaccine.
The Nature Cell Discovery journal listed the findings on Monday night, noting a shift in planning for the next stage of coronavirus treatment.
Professor Sudha Rao, a Senior Researcher at QIMR Berghofer, told the ABC the peptides were an 'early prevention drug', working together in two important roles.
'The first treatment works by blocking the virus from entering as it effectively acts like a padlock on the human cells,' she said.
Researchers have discovered a new way the virus enters cells, through their AC2 receptors, which they believe will be critical to further development of drugs to preventing coronavirus.
'Once it enters it can use the cellular machinery in the human cells to replicate, and knowing that… one drug really acts like a cloak around the human cell and therefore prevents the virus from entering through the AC2 receptor.' Professor Rao said.
'Whereas the second drug… if the virus does enter, the drug is specifically there to prevent the virus from replicating.'
The peptides will be effective against all mutations of the virus because the cells work in the same manner, unlike the requirement for constant updates for vaccines.
They say early results are 'very promising' and hope to introduce clinical human trials within the coming months.
QIMR Berghofer are working with a consortium of European scientists as well, and believe a roll-out of the drugs would be rapid given the availability of peptides and their ability to be stored and transported at room temperature.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
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Date: May 25, 2021 16:28
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georgie48Quote
Hairball
From CNN:
Alabama governor signs bill banning Covid-19 vaccine passports
Alabama
(CNN)Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey on Monday signed a bill into law banning the use of so-called vaccine passports in the state.
The law, which went into effect immediately, prohibits any government entity from issuing vaccine passports while blocking businesses from requiring any such documentation.
"I am supportive of a voluntary vaccine and by signing this bill into law, I am only further solidifying that conviction," Ivey said in a statement after signing the legislation. "I made the choice to get the COVID-19 vaccine and glad for the peace of mind it brings. I encourage any Alabamian who has not gotten their shot to roll up their sleeves, and if you have questions, consult with your health care provider." The legislation, which cleared the state Legislature earlier this month, defines vaccine passports broadly as "documentation of an immunization." Schools in the state "may continue to require a student to prove vaccination status as a condition of attendance only for the specific vaccines that were already required by the institution as of January 1, 2021, provided that the institutions give an exemption for students with a medical condition or religious belief that is contrary to vaccination," according to the text of the law.
Alabama is just the latest state to put restrictions on requiring proof that a person has been immunized against Covid-19. Some health experts argue that such proof of vaccination can be the ticket back to normalcy, saying it could reward people for getting vaccinated by allowing them into a crowded concert or ballgame, as well as offer the vaccinated peace of mind that the person next to them has been immunized, too. But critics have stressed privacy concerns and characterized vaccine passports as an overreach by authorities. Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis cited freedom of choice as a reason for signing legislation banning vaccine passports earlier this month, saying, "In Florida, your personal choice regarding vaccinations will be protected and no business or government entity will be able to deny you services based on your decision." Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, in a video posted to Twitter, argued that "government should not require any Texan to show proof of vaccination and reveal private health information just to go about their daily lives." The Republican last month issued an executive order prohibiting government-mandated proof of inoculation in his state. On the national level, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in March there will be "no centralized universal federal vaccinations database, and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential. ... We want to encourage an open marketplace with a variety of private sector companies and nonprofit coalitions developing solutions."
As a non-American it strikes me that those three states have a republican senator. Coincidence? Apart from (global) war situations and international politics the word "United" in United States of America appears to have no real meaning when dealing with important internal issues like Covid-19.
The EU isn't much different, but at least we don't pretend to be the US(C)E, or United States (Countries) of Europe.
We have 2 parties - both bad - all they do is fight w/ each other and try to block (or undo) what the other is doing.
it's the ultimate dysfunctional relationship and it doesn't even matter what the issue is....
....which is why our country is doomed to failure as a "united" states.
....so is the EU, but for different reasons.
IMO.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
kovach
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Date: May 25, 2021 16:33
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georgie48
As a non-American it strikes me that those three states have a republican senator. Coincidence? Apart from (global) war situations and international politics the word "United" in United States of America appears to have no real meaning when dealing with important internal issues like Covid-19.
The EU isn't much different, but at least we don't pretend to be the US(C)E, or United States (Countries) of Europe.
Not to simplify the United States government, but the original concept was the federal government and state governments have equal power, that is the federal government was more for protecting the border and infrastructure, most everything else was left to the states to decide how they wanted to handle.
And yes apart from slavery this was the other biggest reason for the civil war. The union wanted more federal power, the confederates wanted the equal sharing of power as our founding fathers intended.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
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Hairball
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Date: May 25, 2021 20:15
Mom of Connecticut Teen Speaks After Son Suffers Heart Condition Days After COVID-19 Vaccine
"I wouldn’t want any other parent to go through what we’ve been through,” said Rachel Hatton,
after her 17-year-old son was diagnosed with a heart condition days after receiving the COVID vaccine.
Vaccination
At least 18 teens and young adults in Connecticut have shown symptoms of heart problems after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine, acting health commissioner Dr. Deirdre Gifford said Monday. Gifford said all but one of the young adults hospitalized for signs of heart problems have been released. Four of those young residents were hospitalized at Yale New Haven Health and three at Connecticut Children's. Health officials say the reported cases appear to be mild and typically begin within four days after the second dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it is investigating if there is a link between the vaccine and a heart condition known as myocarditis.
The first case at Connecticut Children’s was Rachel Hatton’s 17-year-old son Gregory. “It’s terrifying,” said Hatton, who lives with her son in Naugatuck. Hatton said her son started complaining of severe chest pain three days after his second dose. It worsened on the fourth day and led to back pain. So, Gregory went to a walk-in clinic where they ran blood work and did an X-ray and discovered he had pericarditis, an inflammation of the lining outside the heart. A spokesperson from Connecticut Children’s said patients have presented with both pericarditis and myocarditis, which is the inflammation of the heart muscle. He was transferred to Saint Mary’s Hospital in Waterbury and then to Connecticut Children’s in Hartford. “They hooked him up to a heart monitor, did more EKGs, echocardiograms. Infectious disease actually came and ran their own set of blood work to try to figure out if it could have been caused by something else, some sort of infection, something else, like Lyme disease. They tested him for all sorts of things and one by one those tests came back negative,” said Hatton. Doctors still couldn’t say if his condition was related to the COVID vaccine, but they called him back in for an MRI after two more patients presented with similar symptoms. Hatton said Gregory is now out of work, on medication and hooked up to a heart monitor. Doctors plan to do another MRI in June to see if his condition improves. “I don’t sleep because I’m constantly, if I hear my son sneeze or if he sounds like he’s out of breath when I call him on my break at work, I get nervous because I just don’t know what else could happen. He basically has a heart condition now and it’s terrifying,” said Hatton.
NBC Connecticut spoke with other parents of teens who received their first dose of the vaccine and are schedule to get their second. “I can’t believe that the government would really put out a shot that would really negatively impact the health of my child so I’m behind the vaccine 100%,” said Heather Salgado, of Wethersfield. “I’m just trusting the science and the recommendation is to get the vaccine,” said Theresa Galizia, also of Wethersfield. But others are still holding off. “With that age group, we did have a little bit of concern because they are still growing,” said Karn Collard, of West Hartford. “It’s one thing for me to get the vaccine, but for my child to get the vaccine, it’s kind of scary not knowing what’s going to happen and not having a lot of research having been done on it,” said Siobhan Cefarelli, of West Hartford.
Hatton said she is sharing her son’s story because she wants parents to be aware. Despite doctors saying the condition is rare, Hatton said it doesn’t feel rare when it’s affecting your own child. “I’m not trying to deter people from getting the vaccine, because my son, if you spoke with him, he would tell you to still get it,” Hatton said. “Me, being his mom, I’m definitely torn. So, I just want people to be aware and be more informed because now they want to give this vaccine to younger and younger children and it’s terrifying. I wouldn’t want any other parent to go through what we’ve been through.” In mild cases of myocarditis, common symptoms include chest pain and shortness of breath. In more serious cases, symptoms can include rapid or abnormal heart rhythms, shortness of breath during rest or physical activity, fatigue, and fluid retention with the swelling of limbs. Medical experts at Mayo Clinic say myocarditis can be fatal if not treated immediately. Heart failure, heart attack, stroke, and sudden cardiac death can occur in severe cases.
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"I wouldn’t want any other parent to go through what we’ve been through,” said Rachel Hatton,
after her 17-year-old son was diagnosed with a heart condition days after receiving the COVID vaccine.
Vaccination
At least 18 teens and young adults in Connecticut have shown symptoms of heart problems after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine, acting health commissioner Dr. Deirdre Gifford said Monday. Gifford said all but one of the young adults hospitalized for signs of heart problems have been released. Four of those young residents were hospitalized at Yale New Haven Health and three at Connecticut Children's. Health officials say the reported cases appear to be mild and typically begin within four days after the second dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it is investigating if there is a link between the vaccine and a heart condition known as myocarditis.
The first case at Connecticut Children’s was Rachel Hatton’s 17-year-old son Gregory. “It’s terrifying,” said Hatton, who lives with her son in Naugatuck. Hatton said her son started complaining of severe chest pain three days after his second dose. It worsened on the fourth day and led to back pain. So, Gregory went to a walk-in clinic where they ran blood work and did an X-ray and discovered he had pericarditis, an inflammation of the lining outside the heart. A spokesperson from Connecticut Children’s said patients have presented with both pericarditis and myocarditis, which is the inflammation of the heart muscle. He was transferred to Saint Mary’s Hospital in Waterbury and then to Connecticut Children’s in Hartford. “They hooked him up to a heart monitor, did more EKGs, echocardiograms. Infectious disease actually came and ran their own set of blood work to try to figure out if it could have been caused by something else, some sort of infection, something else, like Lyme disease. They tested him for all sorts of things and one by one those tests came back negative,” said Hatton. Doctors still couldn’t say if his condition was related to the COVID vaccine, but they called him back in for an MRI after two more patients presented with similar symptoms. Hatton said Gregory is now out of work, on medication and hooked up to a heart monitor. Doctors plan to do another MRI in June to see if his condition improves. “I don’t sleep because I’m constantly, if I hear my son sneeze or if he sounds like he’s out of breath when I call him on my break at work, I get nervous because I just don’t know what else could happen. He basically has a heart condition now and it’s terrifying,” said Hatton.
NBC Connecticut spoke with other parents of teens who received their first dose of the vaccine and are schedule to get their second. “I can’t believe that the government would really put out a shot that would really negatively impact the health of my child so I’m behind the vaccine 100%,” said Heather Salgado, of Wethersfield. “I’m just trusting the science and the recommendation is to get the vaccine,” said Theresa Galizia, also of Wethersfield. But others are still holding off. “With that age group, we did have a little bit of concern because they are still growing,” said Karn Collard, of West Hartford. “It’s one thing for me to get the vaccine, but for my child to get the vaccine, it’s kind of scary not knowing what’s going to happen and not having a lot of research having been done on it,” said Siobhan Cefarelli, of West Hartford.
Hatton said she is sharing her son’s story because she wants parents to be aware. Despite doctors saying the condition is rare, Hatton said it doesn’t feel rare when it’s affecting your own child. “I’m not trying to deter people from getting the vaccine, because my son, if you spoke with him, he would tell you to still get it,” Hatton said. “Me, being his mom, I’m definitely torn. So, I just want people to be aware and be more informed because now they want to give this vaccine to younger and younger children and it’s terrifying. I wouldn’t want any other parent to go through what we’ve been through.” In mild cases of myocarditis, common symptoms include chest pain and shortness of breath. In more serious cases, symptoms can include rapid or abnormal heart rhythms, shortness of breath during rest or physical activity, fatigue, and fluid retention with the swelling of limbs. Medical experts at Mayo Clinic say myocarditis can be fatal if not treated immediately. Heart failure, heart attack, stroke, and sudden cardiac death can occur in severe cases.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
stickyfingers101
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Date: May 25, 2021 20:44
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So, in the handful of months since vaccinations started, I guess they know everything there is to know about "mild" COVID cases emerging among the vaccinated????
nothing more to learn....moving on.
I'm no doctor and I got a D in biology....but, sorry....that's ridiculous.
IMO.
So, in the handful of months since vaccinations started, I guess they know everything there is to know about "mild" COVID cases emerging among the vaccinated????
nothing more to learn....moving on.
I'm no doctor and I got a D in biology....but, sorry....that's ridiculous.
IMO.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: May 25, 2021 23:39
Quote
stickyfingers101
[www.msn.com]
So, in the handful of months since vaccinations started, I guess they know everything there is to know about "mild" COVID cases emerging among the vaccinated????
nothing more to learn....moving on.
I'm no doctor and I got a D in biology....but, sorry....that's ridiculous.
IMO.
Seems the CDC has become out of touch with the reality of it all
Have to agree with these two who speak common sense in the simplest terms....
"We are driving blind, and we will miss a lot of signals. The C.D.C. is a surveillance agency.
How can you do surveillance and pick one number and not look at the whole?”
-Dr. Ali Mokdad, epidemiologist at the University of Washington and a former senior scientist at the C.D.C.
“The virus is constantly changing, and we need to stay three steps ahead of it. What if a variant arises that is less responsive or, Lord forbid, unresponsive to the vaccines?
The way you stop it is good old-fashioned epidemiology, which the C.D.C. has historically done very well. But if you don’t see it coming, you can’t stop it.”
-Michael Kinch, immunologist/associate vice chancellor of the Centers for Research Innovation in Biotechnology at Washington University in St. Louis
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: May 26, 2021 06:40
From CNN:
Why scientists are suddenly more interested in the lab-leak theory of Covid's origin
Wuhan
The United States is closer than ever to beating Covid-19, with half the country vaccinated and more restrictions lifting. But we're as far as ever from knowing how this virus, which shut down the world, came to be -- which is as frightening as anything, since there's growing suggestions that it didn't just occur naturally, as many experts have long argued. The US, with increasing urgency, is calling for more study, warning about the stakes for future pandemics, and more openly considering the idea that mistakes or an accident in a Chinese lab caused the Covid-19 pandemic. The Chinese government says case closed.
Whats new?
A US intelligence report found that several researchers at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology fell ill in November 2019 and had to be hospitalized, a new detail about the severity of their symptoms. It's not clear the researchers contracted Covid-19 and the lab strongly denied the report, calling it a lie to push the so-called lab-leak theory for the disease origin. Scientists affiliated with the institute have previously said the institute did not come into contact with Covid-19 until December 30. The US had actually provided some funding for the study of coronaviruses and their transmission through bats, which had made it to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. On Capitol Hill Tuesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said it would have been a "dereliction of duty" not to fund earlier coronavirus research in bats in China. "You don't want to study bats in Fairfax County, Virginia, to find out what the animal-human interface is that might lead to a jumping of species," Fauci said, adding the US had to go "where the action is." Separately, at the White House, Fauci said many scientists still believe the disease occurred naturally, but it's also imperative to get to the bottom of it with more investigation. An adviser for the World Health Organization, Jamie Metzl, said the lab-leak theory is possible while scientists were "poking and prodding and studying" viruses with the good intention of developing vaccines. "Then I believe what possibly happened was there was an accidental leak followed by a criminal cover-up," said Metzl, who served in the Clinton administration in the US Department of State and is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. Fauci, the top infectious disease expert in the US, also said this week he is not convinced the disease occurred naturally and pushed for more investigation. That is the takeaway here: There needs to be more investigation.
The official word on the origin of Covid-19 is not good enough.
An in-depth study conducted by the WHO with the Chinese government, published in March, explored different possible origins of the disease and concluded that while it was not yet provable how the disease evolved, it was likely it was transferred to humans either directly from bats, or more likely from an intermediate species that got it from bats and then passed it along to humans. The WHO report argued the lab-leak theory was "extremely unlikely," although it cited the lack of infected lab workers before December as an argument against the theory. The US intelligence report now suggests lab workers were sick earlier than December. Further, even when it was published, WHO officials called for additional investigation and openness from the Chinese.
Coverups early on
Early in the outbreak, which China did not appropriately warn the world about, Chinese officials blamed transmission on an early hotspot, a seafood market in Wuhan, although that seems now to be essentially a lie, according to Metzl. In fact, there's ample evidence the Chinese government tried to cover the existence of the virus up. In February, CNN published a look at whistleblowers and truthtellers who warned of the virus as it was taking hold, and who paid the price. Some have gone missing, others have been detained by Chinese authorities, while others contracted and died from Covid. That report includes a timeline of warnings from doctors in China compared to inaction by the government. "Whatever the origin of the pandemic, that first month when China was spending all of its energy trying to cover things up rather than fix the problem, that was what allowed the stove fire to become a kitchen fire to become a house fire to become a world fire," Metzl said. China has been unwilling to submit to an open investigation; it insisted on strict parameters for the earlier WHO study. The US government and others have criticized that lack of transparency and the WHO has also called for further study. The Biden administration has re-joined the WHO after the Trump administration pulled the US from the global health organization.
Need for more study
A group of prominent scientists with relevant experience criticized the WHO report for not taking the lab-leak theory seriously enough -- it was dismissed in a few pages of a several hundred page report. "We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data," the scientists wrote in Science Magazine. Closed doors have also helped conspiracy theories grow. The more evidence there is for the lab leak theory, the more it validates people like Arkansas Republican Sen. Tom Cotton, who has pushed the idea that the virus was created intentionally as a bioweapon. There's no evidence specifically supporting that claim and experts still say it is unlikely. The Washington Post published a look at how questions -- raised by Republicans like Cotton as well as members of the Trump administration, and now of the Biden administration -- have led to a reassessment of the origins of the disease, which have not definitively been traced. Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious disease expert at the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine told CNN's Wolf Blitzer it was unlikely the Wuhan lab had manipulated the virus to make it more contagious using controversial gain of function research, but we've got to find out.
This will happen again
While Chinese authorities have stayed unwilling to allow such an open investigation, Offit said the world needs it in order to guard against another pandemic. "What I do know is they have to allow this," Offit said. "This is now the third pandemic strain that has raised its head in the last 20 years. The first was SARS 1, the second was MERS. I think that we can assume that we're not done with this." And, he went on: "I think that we need to be able to know this the minute it happens. I mean it is unfair that we had to rely on a whistleblower in China to tell us that there was a virus that was circulating in Wuhan that was killing people. That delayed things. It didn't give us the chance to act as quickly as we needed to act and I think they are culpable on that one."
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Why scientists are suddenly more interested in the lab-leak theory of Covid's origin
Wuhan
The United States is closer than ever to beating Covid-19, with half the country vaccinated and more restrictions lifting. But we're as far as ever from knowing how this virus, which shut down the world, came to be -- which is as frightening as anything, since there's growing suggestions that it didn't just occur naturally, as many experts have long argued. The US, with increasing urgency, is calling for more study, warning about the stakes for future pandemics, and more openly considering the idea that mistakes or an accident in a Chinese lab caused the Covid-19 pandemic. The Chinese government says case closed.
Whats new?
A US intelligence report found that several researchers at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology fell ill in November 2019 and had to be hospitalized, a new detail about the severity of their symptoms. It's not clear the researchers contracted Covid-19 and the lab strongly denied the report, calling it a lie to push the so-called lab-leak theory for the disease origin. Scientists affiliated with the institute have previously said the institute did not come into contact with Covid-19 until December 30. The US had actually provided some funding for the study of coronaviruses and their transmission through bats, which had made it to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. On Capitol Hill Tuesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said it would have been a "dereliction of duty" not to fund earlier coronavirus research in bats in China. "You don't want to study bats in Fairfax County, Virginia, to find out what the animal-human interface is that might lead to a jumping of species," Fauci said, adding the US had to go "where the action is." Separately, at the White House, Fauci said many scientists still believe the disease occurred naturally, but it's also imperative to get to the bottom of it with more investigation. An adviser for the World Health Organization, Jamie Metzl, said the lab-leak theory is possible while scientists were "poking and prodding and studying" viruses with the good intention of developing vaccines. "Then I believe what possibly happened was there was an accidental leak followed by a criminal cover-up," said Metzl, who served in the Clinton administration in the US Department of State and is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. Fauci, the top infectious disease expert in the US, also said this week he is not convinced the disease occurred naturally and pushed for more investigation. That is the takeaway here: There needs to be more investigation.
The official word on the origin of Covid-19 is not good enough.
An in-depth study conducted by the WHO with the Chinese government, published in March, explored different possible origins of the disease and concluded that while it was not yet provable how the disease evolved, it was likely it was transferred to humans either directly from bats, or more likely from an intermediate species that got it from bats and then passed it along to humans. The WHO report argued the lab-leak theory was "extremely unlikely," although it cited the lack of infected lab workers before December as an argument against the theory. The US intelligence report now suggests lab workers were sick earlier than December. Further, even when it was published, WHO officials called for additional investigation and openness from the Chinese.
Coverups early on
Early in the outbreak, which China did not appropriately warn the world about, Chinese officials blamed transmission on an early hotspot, a seafood market in Wuhan, although that seems now to be essentially a lie, according to Metzl. In fact, there's ample evidence the Chinese government tried to cover the existence of the virus up. In February, CNN published a look at whistleblowers and truthtellers who warned of the virus as it was taking hold, and who paid the price. Some have gone missing, others have been detained by Chinese authorities, while others contracted and died from Covid. That report includes a timeline of warnings from doctors in China compared to inaction by the government. "Whatever the origin of the pandemic, that first month when China was spending all of its energy trying to cover things up rather than fix the problem, that was what allowed the stove fire to become a kitchen fire to become a house fire to become a world fire," Metzl said. China has been unwilling to submit to an open investigation; it insisted on strict parameters for the earlier WHO study. The US government and others have criticized that lack of transparency and the WHO has also called for further study. The Biden administration has re-joined the WHO after the Trump administration pulled the US from the global health organization.
Need for more study
A group of prominent scientists with relevant experience criticized the WHO report for not taking the lab-leak theory seriously enough -- it was dismissed in a few pages of a several hundred page report. "We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data," the scientists wrote in Science Magazine. Closed doors have also helped conspiracy theories grow. The more evidence there is for the lab leak theory, the more it validates people like Arkansas Republican Sen. Tom Cotton, who has pushed the idea that the virus was created intentionally as a bioweapon. There's no evidence specifically supporting that claim and experts still say it is unlikely. The Washington Post published a look at how questions -- raised by Republicans like Cotton as well as members of the Trump administration, and now of the Biden administration -- have led to a reassessment of the origins of the disease, which have not definitively been traced. Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious disease expert at the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine told CNN's Wolf Blitzer it was unlikely the Wuhan lab had manipulated the virus to make it more contagious using controversial gain of function research, but we've got to find out.
This will happen again
While Chinese authorities have stayed unwilling to allow such an open investigation, Offit said the world needs it in order to guard against another pandemic. "What I do know is they have to allow this," Offit said. "This is now the third pandemic strain that has raised its head in the last 20 years. The first was SARS 1, the second was MERS. I think that we can assume that we're not done with this." And, he went on: "I think that we need to be able to know this the minute it happens. I mean it is unfair that we had to rely on a whistleblower in China to tell us that there was a virus that was circulating in Wuhan that was killing people. That delayed things. It didn't give us the chance to act as quickly as we needed to act and I think they are culpable on that one."
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
bv
()
Date: May 26, 2021 12:49
Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences seems to be the standard to some. I would advice people to read the whole story, not just some parts picked up and posted out of context.
At Least 18 Cases of Apparent Heart Problems in Young People in CT After COVID-19 Vaccine (NBC Connecticut May 24, 2021)
“Our health and medical experts still continue to convey that it is the right step for 12- to 15-year-olds to get vaccinated, that these are limited cases, and that, obviously, the risks of contracting COVID are certainly significant even for people of that age,” Psaki said.
Health officials say the reported cases appear to be mild and typically begin within four days after the second dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
The CDC has yet to determine if the vaccines were the cause of the reported heart condition.
“What’s important to know and to recognize is that the rates that we’re seeing of myocarditis are no higher than what we would experience normally,” Dr. Ted O’Connell told NBC San Diego. “So, we don’t know if it’s associated with the vaccine or not.”
Bjornulf
At Least 18 Cases of Apparent Heart Problems in Young People in CT After COVID-19 Vaccine (NBC Connecticut May 24, 2021)
“Our health and medical experts still continue to convey that it is the right step for 12- to 15-year-olds to get vaccinated, that these are limited cases, and that, obviously, the risks of contracting COVID are certainly significant even for people of that age,” Psaki said.
Health officials say the reported cases appear to be mild and typically begin within four days after the second dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
The CDC has yet to determine if the vaccines were the cause of the reported heart condition.
“What’s important to know and to recognize is that the rates that we’re seeing of myocarditis are no higher than what we would experience normally,” Dr. Ted O’Connell told NBC San Diego. “So, we don’t know if it’s associated with the vaccine or not.”
Bjornulf
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: May 26, 2021 15:01
Thanks bv, editing and pasting articles to bolster the "sky is falling" narrative is misleading and tiresome.
Meanwhile..
COVID milestone: 50% of US adults now fully vaccinated
SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) — The United States hit a major vaccination milestone Tuesday: Half of all adults are now fully vaccinated against COVID-19.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s latest data, that’s 50% of the U.S. population 18 years and older — nearly 130 million adults.
Fully vaccinated means that a person has received both doses of either the Pfizer or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine or the single dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. A person doesn’t have full protection until it’s been two weeks since the final dose, according to the CDC.
Moderna says its COVID-19 shot works in kids as young as 12
Even younger teens are getting there: The CDC reports that 46.8% of people in the U.S. who are at least 12 years and older have been fully vaccinated within a month of Pfizer receiving FDA authorization to vaccinate younger teens.
President Joe Biden previously set a goal of having 70% of all adults receiving at least one dose of the vaccine by July 4. The White House has ramped up its vaccine distribution, and coronavirus cases and deaths have fallen across the nation.
[www.wjbf.com]
Meanwhile..
COVID milestone: 50% of US adults now fully vaccinated
SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) — The United States hit a major vaccination milestone Tuesday: Half of all adults are now fully vaccinated against COVID-19.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s latest data, that’s 50% of the U.S. population 18 years and older — nearly 130 million adults.
Fully vaccinated means that a person has received both doses of either the Pfizer or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine or the single dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. A person doesn’t have full protection until it’s been two weeks since the final dose, according to the CDC.
Moderna says its COVID-19 shot works in kids as young as 12
Even younger teens are getting there: The CDC reports that 46.8% of people in the U.S. who are at least 12 years and older have been fully vaccinated within a month of Pfizer receiving FDA authorization to vaccinate younger teens.
President Joe Biden previously set a goal of having 70% of all adults receiving at least one dose of the vaccine by July 4. The White House has ramped up its vaccine distribution, and coronavirus cases and deaths have fallen across the nation.
[www.wjbf.com]
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: May 26, 2021 16:07
<Thanks bv, editing and pasting articles to bolster the "sky is falling" narrative is misleading and tiresome>
Indeed!
<50% of US adults now fully vaccinated>
Well done!
Indeed!
<50% of US adults now fully vaccinated>
Well done!
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: May 26, 2021 16:59
Just opened an email with Covid test results from a test I took yesterday.
Even though fully vaccinated since Feb., gotta admit it made me a little nervous (was negative).
First time I have had to have one (surgery tomorrow), and really didn't want to be one of the "break through cases", regardless of having no symptoms.
Newer tests apparently don't go as far up the nose as the previous ones. Super easy drive thru, no discomfort at all. Whew
Even though fully vaccinated since Feb., gotta admit it made me a little nervous (was negative).
First time I have had to have one (surgery tomorrow), and really didn't want to be one of the "break through cases", regardless of having no symptoms.
Newer tests apparently don't go as far up the nose as the previous ones. Super easy drive thru, no discomfort at all. Whew
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
bv
()
Date: May 26, 2021 17:28
Today the bars and restaurants opened in Oslo Norway, after being closed for six and a half month, since November 9. The Oslo area has been hit hard by the pandemic, because 1/3 of the population live in this area. With the current vaccination speed, and more than 90% accepting the vaccine, they say we will get rid of the pandemic in 2-3 months time. Tomorrow they open up here where I live too. I am looking forward to order a beer tomorrow at my favorite place - and the sun is supposed to be shining!
[www.vg.no]
Bjornulf
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[www.vg.no]
Bjornulf
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-05-26 17:31 by bv.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
sarahunwin
()
Date: May 26, 2021 17:51
Great news Bjornulf! Enjoy!
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: May 26, 2021 19:26
Quote
bv
Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences seems to be the standard to some. I would advice people to read the whole story, not just some parts picked up and posted out of context.
At Least 18 Cases of Apparent Heart Problems in Young People in CT After COVID-19 Vaccine (NBC Connecticut May 24, 2021)
“Our health and medical experts still continue to convey that it is the right step for 12- to 15-year-olds to get vaccinated, that these are limited cases, and that, obviously, the risks of contracting COVID are certainly significant even for people of that age,” Psaki said.
Health officials say the reported cases appear to be mild and typically begin within four days after the second dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
The CDC has yet to determine if the vaccines were the cause of the reported heart condition.
“What’s important to know and to recognize is that the rates that we’re seeing of myocarditis are no higher than what we would experience normally,” Dr. Ted O’Connell told NBC San Diego. “So, we don’t know if it’s associated with the vaccine or not.”
I posted the entire article verbatim without "Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences".
Seems the same site posted two different stories, and this is the one I posted - unedited. Mom of Conn. Teen Speaks After Son Suffers Heart Condition Days After COVID-19 Vaccine
This story was published May 25, 2021 • Updated on May 25, 2021 at 1:00 pm, while the story you posted was published May 24, 2021 • Updated on May 25, 2021 at 7:54 am.
I don't spend time editing stories - I simply post them when I think they are relevant to this thread.
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And here is another story from the New York Times on the same topic dated and posted here May 22 in it's entirety - unedited:
C.D.C. Is Investigating a Heart Problem in a Few Young Vaccine Recipients
"The agency is reviewing several dozen reports that teenagers and young adults may have developed myocarditis
after vaccination, officials said. But the agency has not determined whether the vaccine caused the condition".
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: May 26, 2021 19:42
Quote
bv
Today the bars and restaurants opened in Oslo Norway, after being closed for six and a half month, since November 9. The Oslo area has been hit hard by the pandemic, because 1/3 of the population live in this area. With the current vaccination speed, and more than 90% accepting the vaccine, they say we will get rid of the pandemic in 2-3 months time. Tomorrow they open up here where I live too. I am looking forward to order a beer tomorrow at my favorite place - and the sun is supposed to be shining!
[www.vg.no]
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
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Date: May 26, 2021 19:44
From CNN:
Chinese state media is turning on Fauci amid Wuhan lab controversy
Fauci
Hong Kong (CNN)After weeks of facing fierce attacks from Republicans, top US infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci now has a new critic: Chinese state media.
"US elites degenerate further in morality, and Fauci is one of them," was the headline of a blistering opinion piece penned by Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of the state-run Global Times this week.
In the article Hu accused the top US infectious disease expert of "fanning a huge lie against China" by hyping the theory that the coronavirus was leaked from a Wuhan lab. Another article in the Global Times declared that Fauci had "betrayed Chinese scientists." The anger is centered on Fauci's remarks this month that he is no longer convinced the Covid-19 pandemic originated naturally. "I think we should continue to investigate what went on in China until we continue to find out to the best of our ability what happened," said the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at a fact-checking symposium on May 11. The comments appear to be a shift from Fauci's earlier view that the disease likely was the result of animal to human transmission. Fauci's comments were followed by a Wall Street Journal exclusive, citing a US intelligence report, that said three researchers from the Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care — a revelation that, if true, could add weight to growing calls for further investigation into whether the coronavirus may have escaped from the Chinese lab.
Unsurprisingly, China has vehemently refuted the report, echoing its repeated dismissal of any allegations that link the origin of the virus to the lab. Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said the report was "totally inconsistent with the facts" and a director at the lab called the report "a complete lie." In the meantime, Chinese state media has lashed out at Fauci, saying he has joined an "opinion war against China."
The attack on Fauci is an about-face from the positive portrayal of him in earlier coverage. Last year, as Fauci repeatedly spoke out against the Trump administration's handling of the pandemic, Chinese state media published glowing reports praising the scientist for his professionalism and courage to speak the truth. Fauci has since attempted to clarify his remarks. On Tuesday, he told CBS News correspondent Weijia Jiang that his opinion about the origins of Covid-19 have not changed and still believes that its origin in nature is "highly likely." "Since no one is 100% sure, he's open to a thorough investigation. Dr. Fauci said that does not mean he believes the virus first emerged in a lab, as some have suggested," Jiang wrote on Twitter. Whether that will redeem his image in China, however, remains unclear.
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Chinese state media is turning on Fauci amid Wuhan lab controversy
Fauci
Hong Kong (CNN)After weeks of facing fierce attacks from Republicans, top US infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci now has a new critic: Chinese state media.
"US elites degenerate further in morality, and Fauci is one of them," was the headline of a blistering opinion piece penned by Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of the state-run Global Times this week.
In the article Hu accused the top US infectious disease expert of "fanning a huge lie against China" by hyping the theory that the coronavirus was leaked from a Wuhan lab. Another article in the Global Times declared that Fauci had "betrayed Chinese scientists." The anger is centered on Fauci's remarks this month that he is no longer convinced the Covid-19 pandemic originated naturally. "I think we should continue to investigate what went on in China until we continue to find out to the best of our ability what happened," said the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at a fact-checking symposium on May 11. The comments appear to be a shift from Fauci's earlier view that the disease likely was the result of animal to human transmission. Fauci's comments were followed by a Wall Street Journal exclusive, citing a US intelligence report, that said three researchers from the Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care — a revelation that, if true, could add weight to growing calls for further investigation into whether the coronavirus may have escaped from the Chinese lab.
Unsurprisingly, China has vehemently refuted the report, echoing its repeated dismissal of any allegations that link the origin of the virus to the lab. Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said the report was "totally inconsistent with the facts" and a director at the lab called the report "a complete lie." In the meantime, Chinese state media has lashed out at Fauci, saying he has joined an "opinion war against China."
The attack on Fauci is an about-face from the positive portrayal of him in earlier coverage. Last year, as Fauci repeatedly spoke out against the Trump administration's handling of the pandemic, Chinese state media published glowing reports praising the scientist for his professionalism and courage to speak the truth. Fauci has since attempted to clarify his remarks. On Tuesday, he told CBS News correspondent Weijia Jiang that his opinion about the origins of Covid-19 have not changed and still believes that its origin in nature is "highly likely." "Since no one is 100% sure, he's open to a thorough investigation. Dr. Fauci said that does not mean he believes the virus first emerged in a lab, as some have suggested," Jiang wrote on Twitter. Whether that will redeem his image in China, however, remains unclear.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
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Date: May 26, 2021 21:52
Considering the backlash directed at Fauci (see above), wondering how China will react to this breaking news...
From the Associated Press:
Biden asks US intel officials to investigate COVID-19 origin
China
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Wednesday asked U.S. intelligence officials to “redouble” their efforts to investigate the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic, including any possibility the trail might lead to a Chinese lab. After months of minimizing that possibility as a fringe theory, the Biden administration is responding to both U.S. and world pressure for China to be more open about the outbreak. Biden asked U.S. intelligence agencies to report back on their findings within 90 days. He directed U.S. national laboratories to assist with the investigation and called on China to cooperate with international probes into the origins of the pandemic.
Republicans, including former President Donald Trump, have promoted the theory that the virus emerged from a laboratory accident rather than naturally through human contact with an infected animal. Biden in a statement said the majority of the intelligence community had “coalesced” around those two likely scenarios but “do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other.” He revealed that two agencies lean toward the animal link and “one leans more toward” the lab theory, adding, “each with low or moderate confidence." “The United States will also keep working with like-minded partners around the world to press China to participate in a full, transparent, evidence-based international investigation and to provide access to all relevant data and evidence,” said Biden. White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Tuesday that the White House supports a new World Health Organization investigation in China, but she added that an effective probe “would require China finally stepping up and allowing access needed to determine the origins.”
Biden still held out the possibility that a firm conclusion may never be reached, given the Chinese government’s refusal to fully cooperate with international investigations. “The failure to get our inspectors on the ground in those early months will always hamper any investigation into the origin of COVID-19,” he said. Administration officials still harbor strong doubts about the lab leak theory. They view China’s refusal to cooperate in the investigation — particularly on something of such magnitude — as emblematic of other irresponsible actions on the world stage. Privately, administration officials say the end result, if ever known, won’t change anything, but note China’s stonewalling is now on display for the world to see.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, a White House coronavirus adviser, said Wednesday that he and most others in the scientific community “believe that the most likely scenario is that this was a natural occurrence, but no one knows that 100 percent for sure. And since there’s a lot of concern, a lot of speculation and since no one absolutely knows that, I believe we do need the kind of investigation where there’s open transparency and all the information that’s available, to be made available, to scrutinize,” Fauci said at a Senate hearing. Andy Slavitt, Biden’s senior adviser for the coronavirus, said Tuesday that the world needs to “get to the bottom ... whatever the answer may be. We need a completely transparent process from China; we need the WHO to assist in that matter,”? Slavitt said. “We don’t feel like we have that now.”
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-05-26 21:52 by Hairball.
From the Associated Press:
Biden asks US intel officials to investigate COVID-19 origin
China
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Wednesday asked U.S. intelligence officials to “redouble” their efforts to investigate the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic, including any possibility the trail might lead to a Chinese lab. After months of minimizing that possibility as a fringe theory, the Biden administration is responding to both U.S. and world pressure for China to be more open about the outbreak. Biden asked U.S. intelligence agencies to report back on their findings within 90 days. He directed U.S. national laboratories to assist with the investigation and called on China to cooperate with international probes into the origins of the pandemic.
Republicans, including former President Donald Trump, have promoted the theory that the virus emerged from a laboratory accident rather than naturally through human contact with an infected animal. Biden in a statement said the majority of the intelligence community had “coalesced” around those two likely scenarios but “do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other.” He revealed that two agencies lean toward the animal link and “one leans more toward” the lab theory, adding, “each with low or moderate confidence." “The United States will also keep working with like-minded partners around the world to press China to participate in a full, transparent, evidence-based international investigation and to provide access to all relevant data and evidence,” said Biden. White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Tuesday that the White House supports a new World Health Organization investigation in China, but she added that an effective probe “would require China finally stepping up and allowing access needed to determine the origins.”
Biden still held out the possibility that a firm conclusion may never be reached, given the Chinese government’s refusal to fully cooperate with international investigations. “The failure to get our inspectors on the ground in those early months will always hamper any investigation into the origin of COVID-19,” he said. Administration officials still harbor strong doubts about the lab leak theory. They view China’s refusal to cooperate in the investigation — particularly on something of such magnitude — as emblematic of other irresponsible actions on the world stage. Privately, administration officials say the end result, if ever known, won’t change anything, but note China’s stonewalling is now on display for the world to see.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, a White House coronavirus adviser, said Wednesday that he and most others in the scientific community “believe that the most likely scenario is that this was a natural occurrence, but no one knows that 100 percent for sure. And since there’s a lot of concern, a lot of speculation and since no one absolutely knows that, I believe we do need the kind of investigation where there’s open transparency and all the information that’s available, to be made available, to scrutinize,” Fauci said at a Senate hearing. Andy Slavitt, Biden’s senior adviser for the coronavirus, said Tuesday that the world needs to “get to the bottom ... whatever the answer may be. We need a completely transparent process from China; we need the WHO to assist in that matter,”? Slavitt said. “We don’t feel like we have that now.”
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
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Date: May 26, 2021 22:35
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Hairball
Considering the backlash directed at Fauci (see above), wondering how China will react to this breaking news...
Maybe they're behind this move:
Pompeo-led effort to hunt down Covid lab theory shut down by Biden
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Date: May 27, 2021 00:01
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Hairball
I posted the entire article verbatim without "Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences".
This is the CDC site on reported adverse events including possible deaths. It is updated regularly. As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens.
[www.cdc.gov]
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
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Date: May 27, 2021 00:06
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kovachQuote
Hairball
Considering the backlash directed at Fauci (see above), wondering how China will react to this breaking news...
Maybe they're behind this move:
Pompeo-led effort to hunt down Covid lab theory shut down by Biden
The vaccines are in full swing so he's outlived his usefulness. History will not be kind to Tony.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
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kovach
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Date: May 27, 2021 00:16
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bleedingman
As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens
So is a shark attack, after getting chased out of the water by an 8 ft bull shark a couple years ago, and having covid last year, hoping I don't get strike 3 soon.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
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Hairball
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Date: May 27, 2021 00:19
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bleedingmanQuote
Hairball
I posted the entire article verbatim without "Picking up just bits of the news in order to twist a story into your own preferences".
This is the CDC site on reported adverse events including possible deaths. It is updated regularly. As I've said, yes so far these events are "rare". So is getting struck by lightning if you walk in a field during a storm. But it happens.
[www.cdc.gov]
After a quick look, I don't see any info. on the new problem of pericarditis and myocarditis (i.e. heart problems) amongst young people who have taken the vaccine, but I could have missed it.
Maybe they need more time to research the problems, and hopefully will update the site asap as it seems people need to know these risks, however small they might be.
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