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That's a bit skewed and unhealthy. It's also unnecessary fake drama. Do you know anyone that's had COVID? I do. Long term isolation isn't anything like getting COVID and having the true dangers of mutilated internal organs or death. Seeing people one knows have not been exposed because of limited socializing is not part of "the dangers of longeterm isolation," but hanging out with a lot of people in bars or restaurants or big groups and parties inside is because of the true factual dangers of what COVID can do.
No one has died from isolation unless they've done it to themselves.
I'm just making an observation. Nobody has been able to do anything close to a full lockdown unless they have the financial resources, and even then they must depend on others getting out and working to keep the world going, as well as producing and delivering food and supplies. My parents have been able to this, thankfully. Most of us cannot. The elected officials recommending lockdowns are certainly not doing it. The people who lectured me about following the rules I have noticed break them when nobody is watching. I'm a realist. We've caused unnecessary divisions by adopting an unreal strategy.
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Lockdowns are impossible for most people over extended periods, for reasons of human nature, the necessity to earn money and the realization by many people that their personal risks are very low. I encourage my young adult children to have people they can see because the dangers of longterm isolation are greater than Covid.
That's a bit skewed and unhealthy. It's also unnecessary fake drama. Do you know anyone that's had COVID? I do. Long term isolation isn't anything like getting COVID and having the true dangers of mutilated internal organs or death. Seeing people one knows have not been exposed because of limited socializing is not part of "the dangers of longeterm isolation," but hanging out with a lot of people in bars or restaurants or big groups and parties inside is because of the true factual dangers of what COVID can do.
No one has died from isolation unless they've done it to themselves.
I'm just making an observation. Nobody has been able to do anything close to a full lockdown unless they have the financial resources, and even then they must depend on others getting out and working to keep the world going, as well as producing and delivering food and supplies. My parents have been able to this, thankfully. Most of us cannot. The elected officials recommending lockdowns are certainly not doing it. The people who lectured me about following the rules I have noticed break them when nobody is watching. I'm a realist. We've caused unnecessary divisions by adopting an unreal strategy.
What's the alternative?
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crawdaddy
Our dear Mum , who is 94 year's young (as we all tell her), has had her first vaccination on Saturday at her Care Home here in Epsom.
They had a nice guy come in to the Care Home and gave the vaccine to all the residents and staff on Saturday January 16th.
I heard that they really liked the guy who done their jabs, as he had a great way of just getting on with them all.
Good on yer all to our great NHS.
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Open Florida versus Closed California - Number of cases nearly the same. Analysis:
[www.foxnews.com]
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Open Florida versus Closed California - Number of cases nearly the same. Analysis:
[www.foxnews.com]
By reading all the comments under that Fox News report above I sure understand why USA are struggling now.
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Open Florida versus Closed California - Number of cases nearly the same. Analysis:
[www.foxnews.com]
By reading all the comments under that Fox News report above I sure understand why USA are struggling now.
Yes and the article state that the Death Rate was higher in Florida, which may be a more important metric.
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Open Florida versus Closed California - Number of cases nearly the same. Analysis:
[www.foxnews.com]
By reading all the comments under that Fox News report above I sure understand why USA are struggling now.
Yes and the article state that the Death Rate was higher in Florida, which may be a more important metric.
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Rocknroll1969
Israel has given at least one dose of vaccine to 30 percent of the country already. It is a small country but if they keep this pace the whole country will have at least one dose by March. It is possible they will be the first country to return to an almost normal way of life. [ourworldindata.org]
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Israel has given at least one dose of vaccine to 30 percent of the country already. It is a small country but if they keep this pace the whole country will have at least one dose by March. It is possible they will be the first country to return to an almost normal way of life. [ourworldindata.org]
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Israel has given at least one dose of vaccine to 30 percent of the country already. It is a small country but if they keep this pace the whole country will have at least one dose by March. It is possible they will be the first country to return to an almost normal way of life. [ourworldindata.org]
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BN78
"Have you ever wondered what someone from 1918 would say to us"
GSL, I hear you on that.
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Israel has given at least one dose of vaccine to 30 percent of the country already. It is a small country but if they keep this pace the whole country will have at least one dose by March. It is possible they will be the first country to return to an almost normal way of life. [ourworldindata.org]
as I said earlier: There's a statistic to defend any argument you want to make.
Does that "30%" include Palestinians in the occupied territories?
no...it does not.
Hence: Israel is fudging their statistics.
This is NOT a political statement, but a mathematical one ONLY.
Please respect BV's rules and do NOT turn this into a political debate....my discussion is PURELY mathematical about the manipulation and selective use of statistics (which has been a problem since the beginning of the pandemic).
It's "easy" to get 30% vaccination rate if you don't count millions and millions of people....
as stated: Got a claim you wanna prove? There's a stat for that.
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Israel has given at least one dose of vaccine to 30 percent of the country already. It is a small country but if they keep this pace the whole country will have at least one dose by March. It is possible they will be the first country to return to an almost normal way of life. [ourworldindata.org]
as I said earlier: There's a statistic to defend any argument you want to make.
Does that "30%" include Palestinians in the occupied territories?
no...it does not.
Hence: Israel is fudging their statistics.
This is NOT a political statement, but a mathematical one ONLY.
Please respect BV's rules and do NOT turn this into a political debate....my discussion is PURELY mathematical about the manipulation and selective use of statistics (which has been a problem since the beginning of the pandemic).
It's "easy" to get 30% vaccination rate if you don't count millions and millions of people....
as stated: Got a claim you wanna prove? There's a stat for that.
Boy your a hostile person. But you did make a good point. Adding the information you added the percentage would be a lot lower. The bottom line is we do not get back to close to normal until most of the world is vaccinated. Are we looking at one or two years? Will this take even longer considering most of Africa has not even started giving vaccines to the best of my knowledge.
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MAF
Extended lockdown with stronger rules in Germany till 14th Feb