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The first small truck with a symbolic number of 9,750 shots of the vaccine
What's the symbolism in the 9,750 number?
I think all countries in EU / EEA got the same number in the first shipment this week, like a symbol of the actual start of the shipments. After that, the shipments per week are much larger.
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The first small truck with a symbolic number of 9,750 shots of the vaccine
What's the symbolism in the 9,750 number?
I think all countries in EU / EEA got the same number in the first shipment this week, like a symbol of the actual start of the shipments. After that, the shipments per week are much larger.
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Also I believe the Oxford vaccine (due to be approved in uk within days) can be kept at normal fridge temp. This is a game changer re local clinicians having access to smaller quantities to speed up vaccination rather than ‘open and use 9750 doses’
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Some countries have managed to control the corona virus way better than others. Singapore, Taiwan, Australia, South Korea, China, Cuba are among those.
This is a couple of examples of why Australia is doing great:
Coronavirus (COVID-19) advice for international travellers (health.gov.au)
Travel into Australia
Australia’s borders are closed. The only people who can travel to Australia are:
- Australian citizens
- Residents
- Immediate family members
- Travellers who have been in New Zealand for the previous 14 days
Woman who fled Perth hotel quarantine tests negative for COVID-19, faces possible jail sentence (abc.net.au)
Western Australia's Health Minister Roger Cook says he is "disappointed and angry" at a traveller who left a Perth quarantine hotel and now faces a fine of up to $50,000 or 12 months in prison.
Jenny Maree D'Ubios, 49, was seven days into her mandatory 14-day quarantine period when she fled the Pan Pacific Hotel on Saturday morning.
In a video posted on social media at 6:54am on Saturday, Ms D'Ubios said she intended to leave the hotel. In other Facebook video posts, she expressed scepticism about coronavirus.
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Dr. Fauci Says Herd Immunity May Require 90% to Get COVID Vaccine
Fauci admitted he had purposefully low-balled the number so as not to incite undue fear.
"We need to have some humility here," he added. "We really don't know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90 percent. But, I'm not going to say 90 percent."
I can't believe anyone takes this guy seriously.
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Dr. Fauci Says Herd Immunity May Require 90% to Get COVID Vaccine
Fauci admitted he had purposefully low-balled the number so as not to incite undue fear.
"We need to have some humility here," he added. "We really don't know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90 percent. But, I'm not going to say 90 percent."
I can't believe anyone takes this guy seriously.
[www.yahoo.com]
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bv
Some countries have managed to control the corona virus way better than others. Singapore, Taiwan, Australia, South Korea, China, Cuba are among those.
This is a couple of examples of why Australia is doing great:
Coronavirus (COVID-19) advice for international travellers (health.gov.au)
Travel into Australia
Australia’s borders are closed. The only people who can travel to Australia are:
- Australian citizens
- Residents
- Immediate family members
- Travellers who have been in New Zealand for the previous 14 days
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bleedingman
Dr. Fauci Says Herd Immunity May Require 90% to Get COVID Vaccine
Fauci admitted he had purposefully low-balled the number so as not to incite undue fear.
"We need to have some humility here," he added. "We really don't know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90 percent. But, I'm not going to say 90 percent."
I can't believe anyone takes this guy seriously.
[www.yahoo.com]
What experts do you believe?
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Dr. Fauci Says Herd Immunity May Require 90% to Get COVID Vaccine
Fauci admitted he had purposefully low-balled the number so as not to incite undue fear.
"We need to have some humility here," he added. "We really don't know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90 percent. But, I'm not going to say 90 percent."
I can't believe anyone takes this guy seriously.
[www.yahoo.com]
What experts do you believe?
Let's face it, Fauci's still human, he's made mistakes and had to adjust due to the unknowns. I don't put my entire blind faith solely in him either though I hold him in high regard as an expert as well as reading other opinions just to stay as informed as possible. Believing 100%, or disbelieving 100% for that matter, of what 1 person says is a little dangerous.
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In one major country there was a poll saying 30% was unsure, 35% denial, and 35% ready for the vaccine. In another major country just 50% were ready for the vaccine.
When they require a vaccine pass to board a plane, or to attend a football game or a concert, or to visit a mall, then I bet more people will be willing to get the vaccine. It's just a matter of time, and means.
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In one major country there was a poll saying 30% was unsure, 35% denial, and 35% ready for the vaccine. In another major country just 50% were ready for the vaccine.
When they require a vaccine pass to board a plane, or to attend a football game or a concert, or to visit a mall, then I bet more people will be willing to get the vaccine. It's just a matter of time, and means.
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Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Herd immunity, lockdowns and COVID-19 (WHO)
Although older people and those with underlying conditions are most at risk of severe disease and death, they are not the only ones at risk.
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In one major country there was a poll saying 30% was unsure, 35% denial, and 35% ready for the vaccine. In another major country just 50% were ready for the vaccine.
When they require a vaccine pass to board a plane, or to attend a football game or a concert, or to visit a mall, then I bet more people will be willing to get the vaccine. It's just a matter of time, and means.
Now this really scares me. It is just a matter of means. Why it scares me? Cause I see this opinion very often.
As I wrote already, we (people) love slogans and symbols. We (people) also need enemies and we like to label them. Because then we know what or who we have to fight.
Right now our enemy is the virus and then the "deniers." It is nice to know the enemy. It is nice to put a label on it / him / them. Because then everybody knows what the problem is and what to do, so that then, later on, when we are done with the enemy, we could all be happy and without problems.
The most obvious example from history is of course a German leader, that appeared about 100 years ago. He also had it very clear what and who the problem was. The tragedy didn't happen overnight. It took him 15-20 years to make a whole nation believe that he had the answers and the means. It cost millions of lives.
I don't write this so that anybody would think I compare him / her with H....r, believe me, I don't. I write this because this was only possible because the general priciple that has been working perfectly throughout human history. It was always somebody (some person, some nation, church...) that knew exactly what to do so that everybody could be happy later on...
It is the same with terrorism, isn't it? I believe the terrorists have a very clear picture about the problem. And they have the means. But if we look at it from the other side - we also know perfectly what the problem is, don't we? And if somebody doesn't, politicians and media will help him. It is the same story over and over again in human history. Both sides always "own" the truth.
And it might seem strange to apply this kind of thinking on the current pandemia, but I can't help it, I just see it everywhere. There is only one "good" opinion, which is presented by pretty much all media, by pretty much all politicians. Any other opinion is evil. I know, it is based on "facts and science." But as I wrote in my last post, the "facts" are twisted. What I usually read has all the features of propaganda. Any other opinion is instantly dismissed as conspiration theory, the proving usually never goes further than "as we all know," "it is generaly known,that..." or any such argument, which is nothing but Manipulation lesson number one.
In the end we are left to decide for ourselfs if we believe that the politicians want only general good (did that ever happen?) and if most of what media write is truth, or if we don't. If we don't, then there is not much left unfortunately, since as I wrote, I think it is nearly impossible to distinguish between what is a serious attempt to inform and what is a pure propaganda.
Well, it is really only my opinion and I don't force it to anybody. But I believe it is at least good to be aware that it is only an opinion and to be aware, that I can be totaly wrong. The fact, that most people seem to be absoulutely sure really scares me. But after all - the majority may actually be right.
As I wrote before, I don't believe the politicians. I know, we should trust "scientists," but the way "science" is presented today, it is one of the most empty words. You will find any "scientific" opinion and fact that you want. Knowing myself, I will obey, as I always do. But I am really scared of the means that will be put to action against those who won't. I personally don't believe it will end with them not being able to board a plane or go to a football game. But majority will probably be happy. Well, at least at the beginning.
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Everyone here seems to be fans of draconic measures. The more draconic the better it seems. But no one dares to address the root of the problem. Where this virus, and almost all pandemics since the Middle Ages comes from. I will not do that either. Since I know that is a forbidden subject for those who believe in pc. In five minutes I will erase this comment.