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daspyknows
The issue countries like Tanzania face is medical care is almost non existent.
Prayer is useless, hot steam may steam the disease further and herbal remedies is like prayer. Once the virus spreads in the cities in Africa, South Asia and South America it will look like NYC without healthcare infrastructure.
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daspyknows
The issue countries like Tanzania face is medical care is almost non existent.
Prayer is useless, hot steam may steam the disease further and herbal remedies is like prayer. Once the virus spreads in the cities in Africa, South Asia and South America it will look like NYC without healthcare infrastructure.
Africa facing a quarter of a billion coronavirus cases, WHO predicts
But continent will have fewer deaths than Europe and US because of its younger population and other lifestyle factors
[www.theguardian.com]
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There are some great comments today I must say
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Well the US unfortunately just hit 80000 deaths with a total number of cases at 1,346,717 so still around 2000 per day since my last update early last week. At the current rate, they'll hit 100,000 in 10 more days.
Total worldwide is now 4,010,000 with 278,000 deaths
New updated US figures, now 87000 deaths and 1.455 million cases. Average daily numbers has dropped from around 2000 per day to around 1400 so that's a good sign. Not a good sign is news reports of people crowding into bars, etc. as states start to reopen. Worldwide total is now 4.52 million cases and 303000 deaths. Keep an eye on Brazil, the numbers there are starting to explode.
the total deaths in washington state will surpass 1,000 this weekend, primarily in the seattle area.
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daspyknows
The issue countries like Tanzania face is medical care is almost non existent.
Prayer is useless, hot steam may steam the disease further and herbal remedies is like prayer. Once the virus spreads in the cities in Africa, South Asia and South America it will look like NYC without healthcare infrastructure.
Africa facing a quarter of a billion coronavirus cases, WHO predicts
But continent will have fewer deaths than Europe and US because of its younger population and other lifestyle factors
[www.theguardian.com]
A lower death rate maybe but fewer deaths? I doubt that with the medical care available? Have you ever seen what passes for medical care in the 3rd world? I have. Makes medical care in rural America seem like the Mayo Clinic.
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Well the US unfortunately just hit 80000 deaths with a total number of cases at 1,346,717 so still around 2000 per day since my last update early last week. At the current rate, they'll hit 100,000 in 10 more days.
Total worldwide is now 4,010,000 with 278,000 deaths
New updated US figures, now 87000 deaths and 1.455 million cases. Average daily numbers has dropped from around 2000 per day to around 1400 so that's a good sign. Not a good sign is news reports of people crowding into bars, etc. as states start to reopen. Worldwide total is now 4.52 million cases and 303000 deaths. Keep an eye on Brazil, the numbers there are starting to explode.
the total deaths in washington state will surpass 1,000 this weekend, primarily in the seattle area.
Some good news today. No new deaths in Washington for the first time in a long time. Maybe we will take a bit longer to reach the sad milestone.
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I haven’t seen this posted (excuse me if I missed it), this is a website with worldwide stats, developed by a US teenager and is apparently widely consulted now. Very up to date.
[ncov2019.live]
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MisterDDDD
Biggest issue in the US right now behind places opening up too early, is we don't have a National Strategy on testing. Still.
We have this however, which appears to actually be a strategy, so perhaps I am wrong. We have a National No Testing strategy.
"When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases."
Go US! We're number 40!.. We're number 40!..
The U.S. was at 26.31 tests per 1,000 people as of May 9. That’s more than South Korea, but less than Iceland, Denmark, Italy, New Zealand, Switzerland, Austria, Australia, Canada, Belgium, Germany, Russia and Spain, among others. Worldometer, a data aggregation website, listed 39 countries and territories with higher per-capita testing rates than the U.S. as of May 12.
[www.factcheck.org]
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Chris Fountain
The Media and even this forum counts the points against Trump or Fox News. it is recommended that these type of posts refrained let's stick with scientific articles. We are at least at 86 k fatalities last seen count. In my opinion, politics needs to be omitted from this topic as it distorts our ability to learn and protect our own lives. Jeez.
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MisterDDDD
The Canadian border closing hits home for me..
I live close, and have extended family still living in Canada as well.
Won't be visiting for a while even after the border opens though.. can't blame the Canadians wanting to keep it closed, and I'm not going to push the issue..
As a kid, I used to live a block from this Peace Arch park and border.
Worked at it for a couple of summers as well. It had never closed until this.
Park is back open now, but border still closed.
COVID-19: Families reunited as Peace Arch Provincial Park reopens
Josh Bennett drove five hours Thursday for a few stolen moments beneath the Peace Arch with his sweetheart.
The symbolic significance of the white concrete monument straddling the border between Canada and the U.S. was obvious as dozens of cross-border couples and families met on the grounds of Peace Arch Park after almost eight weeks apart.
Access to the international park, which encompasses Peace Arch Provincial Park in Surrey and Peace Arch Historical State Park in Blaine, Wash., was restored Thursday as B.C. reopened many provincial parks to visitors.
“We’ll stay until it closes,” said Bennett as he waited for his girlfriend to arrive. “I have food and flowers.”
Bennett is from Portland, Ore. His girlfriend lives in Surrey. They met in November at a church conference and began dating in February. Before the COVID-19 pandemic closed the border to non-essential travel, he drove up almost every weekend to see her.
[vancouversun.com]
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DGA35
Hey MrDDDD, I know from this thread you're down in Birch Bay. Hopefully the border stays closed for a while yet. In BC, numbers are low and things are starting to reopen so that's good. What amazes me is that I still see a number of vehicles with Alberta license plates. What the hell are you doing out here? The numbers in Alberta are worse than BC and Calgary still has a large number of positive cases. People are still been told don't travel this weekend but highways were pretty busy yesterday and I'm sure will be even busier today.
I've read news stories about small Alaska towns on the BC border that rely on coming across the border for food/medicine, etc. that are having problems. I haven't read lately what the people in Pt.Roberts are doing. I did read that people from BC who own property down there aren't allowed to cross to check up on their houses because that's not considered essential.
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Hey MrDDDD, I know from this thread you're down in Birch Bay. Hopefully the border stays closed for a while yet. In BC, numbers are low and things are starting to reopen so that's good. What amazes me is that I still see a number of vehicles with Alberta license plates. What the hell are you doing out here? The numbers in Alberta are worse than BC and Calgary still has a large number of positive cases. People are still been told don't travel this weekend but highways were pretty busy yesterday and I'm sure will be even busier today.
I've read news stories about small Alaska towns on the BC border that rely on coming across the border for food/medicine, etc. that are having problems. I haven't read lately what the people in Pt.Roberts are doing. I did read that people from BC who own property down there aren't allowed to cross to check up on their houses because that's not considered essential.
Yeah.. saw that in B Bay that a lot of Canadian owned places were sitting empty.
Seems like it would be essential to cross if you owned property, but surprisingly not.
Several Canadian owned trailers burnt during a campground fire in our county as well.
You nailed why I win't be crossing over anytime soon.
While I am fluent in Canadian, my license plates are definitely not
Looking forward to my favorite White Spot burger maybe later this summer though
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[www.theguardian.com]
we have to prepare ourselves for this very-real possibility and stop believing that a 100% cure-all "vaccine" is guaranteed as long as we just "wait it out"
what is our plan if Corona never goes away? B/c permanent-lockdown, seasonal-lockdown etc. etc. is not sustainable...economically, mentally etc.
it's not. that's as much of a fact as anything.
At some point, we are going to have to ask ourselves: "What death-toll is acceptable?"
it's morbid...but, that's how life works...calculated acceptable risks. We take it every time we get in a car (and i know this isn't car-wrecks or whatever, it's just an example)
I know it is not the flu....but, accepted death-tolls is where we are at w/ the flu...it kills lots of people...most of them old and/or overweight and/or in poor health for one reason or another.....we've accepted that.
maybe w/ Corona we need to "wait" (to a degree) for another year to "see what happens"...
but, if we are right back at this same point next year w/ the economy, mental health, suicides, spousal abuse, child abuse etc. even worse, (b/c that's ALL guaranteed if we continue this way).....well....some very difficult choices are going to have to be made.
If 80% of the Coronavirus deaths continue to be people over 65 (and most of them b/c of diet-related health issues, like obesity).....well....let's just say tough choices will need to be made....hard times = hard choices
[www.businessinsider.com]
I don't know the answer, but we need to prepare for a world where Corona never goes away.
So, for starters: Wear Ya Mask! Wash Ya Hands!
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[www.theguardian.com]
we have to prepare ourselves for this very-real possibility and stop believing that a 100% cure-all "vaccine" is guaranteed as long as we just "wait it out"
what is our plan if Corona never goes away? B/c permanent-lockdown, seasonal-lockdown etc. etc. is not sustainable...economically, mentally etc.
it's not. that's as much of a fact as anything.
At some point, we are going to have to ask ourselves: "What death-toll is acceptable?"
it's morbid...but, that's how life works...calculated acceptable risks. We take it every time we get in a car (and i know this isn't car-wrecks or whatever, it's just an example)
I know it is not the flu....but, accepted death-tolls is where we are at w/ the flu...it kills lots of people...most of them old and/or overweight and/or in poor health for one reason or another.....we've accepted that.
maybe w/ Corona we need to "wait" (to a degree) for another year to "see what happens"...
but, if we are right back at this same point next year w/ the economy, mental health, suicides, spousal abuse, child abuse etc. even worse, (b/c that's ALL guaranteed if we continue this way).....well....some very difficult choices are going to have to be made.
If 80% of the Coronavirus deaths continue to be people over 65 (and most of them b/c of diet-related health issues, like obesity).....well....let's just say tough choices will need to be made....hard times = hard choices
[www.businessinsider.com]
I don't know the answer, but we need to prepare for a world where Corona never goes away.
So, for starters: Wear Ya Mask! Wash Ya Hands!
This article gives very good information about a proper way out of the twin set of economic and medical issues:
The importance of testing, tracing and isolating.
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humans = the worst