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jumpontopofmebaby
Seems like it worked and is working in Sweden per the World Health Organization.
And yes I think it will work.
It is up to each person. Those who choose to venture out and about and don't do it safely then they will pay the price.
For those that do. Life goes on.
You cant punish everyone because of the people that don't get it.
You cant take away my car because my neighbor speeds or drives drunk.
You have to look out for number 1.
And it is time to get the show on the road.
This isn't "punishment".
This is everyone doing their part to stop the spread.
News flash- You are amongst the people that "don't get it".
Not rocket science at this point, people spread this virus person to person,
By continuing the isolation and distancing measures we can and are reducing the infected and death rate considerably,
Additionally, by "getting the show on the road" prematurely, we are almost guaranteeing that we will be starting this process again from near the starting line.
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jumpontopofmebaby
Seems like it worked and is working in Sweden per the World Health Organization.
You do not get it.
This is what Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, said Wednesday: There are “lessons to be learned” from the way Sweden “has very much relied on its relationship with its citizenry and the ability and willingness of its citizens to implement self-distancing and self-regulate.”
Read Washington Post, they have a more detailed reference on what he said.
In USA, vigilante demonstrators are now showing up at Capitol buildings, heavily armed, demonstrating in hundreds to open up ahead of what science and virus numbers are allowing for. They are applauded by the US President. You do not see that in Sweden. In Sweden they follow advice by the health authorities, they do not open up at all, they do in fact close bars and restaurants as they get more crowded now.
FACTS ABOUT SWEDEN and the corona virus today:
The authorities have started to close down bars and restaurants in big cities like Stockholm and Gothenburg, because they are overcrowded.
[www.expressen.se]
[www.aftonbladet.se]
References:
No, Sweden Isn't a Miracle Coronavirus Model
Washington Post May 1, 2020)
The World Health Organization’s Swedish flip-flop (New York Post May 1, 2020)
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jumpontopofmebaby
Seems like it worked and is working in Sweden per the World Health Organization.
You do not get it.
This is what Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, said Wednesday: There are “lessons to be learned” from the way Sweden “has very much relied on its relationship with its citizenry and the ability and willingness of its citizens to implement self-distancing and self-regulate.”
Read Washington Post, they have a more detailed reference on what he said.
In USA, vigilante demonstrators are now showing up at Capitol buildings, heavily armed, demonstrating in hundreds to open up ahead of what science and virus numbers are allowing for. They are applauded by the US President. You do not see that in Sweden. In Sweden they follow advice by the health authorities, they do not open up at all, they do in fact close bars and restaurants as they get more crowded now.
FACTS ABOUT SWEDEN and the corona virus today:
The authorities have started to close down bars and restaurants in big cities like Stockholm and Gothenburg, because they are overcrowded.
[www.expressen.se]
[www.aftonbladet.se]
References:
No, Sweden Isn't a Miracle Coronavirus Model
Washington Post May 1, 2020)
The World Health Organization’s Swedish flip-flop (New York Post May 1, 2020)
No I totally get it.
The cure is becoming worse that the virus itself. It is destroying families.
If you don't want to get out. DON'T. If you do...be smart get back to life.
If a person is not smart enough to be safe when they go out then they pay the price.
Look ..I choose to stay home. Bars etc are open today where I live. It's been a long time since I had a cold beer a the local smokey bar and watched some local live music.
I would love to do that tonight. I choose not to.
But for those that choose to go.
That is their choice. It is not for me to make their decisions for them.
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jumpontopofmebaby
Seems like it worked and is working in Sweden per the World Health Organization.
You do not get it.
This is what Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, said Wednesday: There are “lessons to be learned” from the way Sweden “has very much relied on its relationship with its citizenry and the ability and willingness of its citizens to implement self-distancing and self-regulate.”
Read Washington Post, they have a more detailed reference on what he said.
In USA, vigilante demonstrators are now showing up at Capitol buildings, heavily armed, demonstrating in hundreds to open up ahead of what science and virus numbers are allowing for. They are applauded by the US President. You do not see that in Sweden. In Sweden they follow advice by the health authorities, they do not open up at all, they do in fact close bars and restaurants as they get more crowded now.
FACTS ABOUT SWEDEN and the corona virus today:
The authorities have started to close down bars and restaurants in big cities like Stockholm and Gothenburg, because they are overcrowded.
[www.expressen.se]
[www.aftonbladet.se]
References:
No, Sweden Isn't a Miracle Coronavirus Model
Washington Post May 1, 2020)
The World Health Organization’s Swedish flip-flop (New York Post May 1, 2020)
No I totally get it.
The cure is becoming worse that the virus itself. It is destroying families.
If you don't want to get out. DON'T. If you do...be smart get back to life.
If a person is not smart enough to be safe when they go out then they pay the price.
Look ..I choose to stay home. Bars etc are open today where I live. It's been a long time since I had a cold beer a the local smokey bar and watched some local live music.
I would love to do that tonight. I choose not to.
But for those that choose to go.
That is their choice. It is not for me to make their decisions for them.
But their decisions will impact you ultimately. Dr. Fauci CLEARLY said you must have 14 days of declining numbers before you go to PHASE 1. That is not what is happening here and consequently, there will be a larger risk than there could be.
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Stoneage
And just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean it's "fake news". By the way, there is no such thing as objective news. Everything is biased, more or less. There is more or less
objective news though. In the end it's down to each person to judge for themselves what to believe in. Many will be wrong, some will be right...
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Seems like it worked and is working in Sweden per the World Health Organization.
You do not get it.
This is what Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, said Wednesday: There are “lessons to be learned” from the way Sweden “has very much relied on its relationship with its citizenry and the ability and willingness of its citizens to implement self-distancing and self-regulate.”
Read Washington Post, they have a more detailed reference on what he said.
In USA, vigilante demonstrators are now showing up at Capitol buildings, heavily armed, demonstrating in hundreds to open up ahead of what science and virus numbers are allowing for. They are applauded by the US President. You do not see that in Sweden. In Sweden they follow advice by the health authorities, they do not open up at all, they do in fact close bars and restaurants as they get more crowded now.
FACTS ABOUT SWEDEN and the corona virus today:
The authorities have started to close down bars and restaurants in big cities like Stockholm and Gothenburg, because they are overcrowded.
[www.expressen.se]
[www.aftonbladet.se]
References:
No, Sweden Isn't a Miracle Coronavirus Model
Washington Post May 1, 2020)
The World Health Organization’s Swedish flip-flop (New York Post May 1, 2020)
No I totally get it.
The cure is becoming worse that the virus itself. It is destroying families.
If you don't want to get out. DON'T. If you do...be smart get back to life.
If a person is not smart enough to be safe when they go out then they pay the price.
Look ..I choose to stay home. Bars etc are open today where I live. It's been a long time since I had a cold beer a the local smokey bar and watched some local live music.
I would love to do that tonight. I choose not to.
But for those that choose to go.
That is their choice. It is not for me to make their decisions for them.
But their decisions will impact you ultimately. Dr. Fauci CLEARLY said you must have 14 days of declining numbers before you go to PHASE 1. That is not what is happening here and consequently, there will be a larger risk than there could be.
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MisterDDDD
News flash- You are amongst the people that "don't get it".
Not rocket science at this point, people spread this virus person to person,
By continuing the isolation and distancing measures we can and are reducing the infected and death rate considerably,
Additionally, by "getting the show on the road" prematurely, we are almost guaranteeing that we will be starting this process again from near the starting line.
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daspyknows
Please do us all a favor, find someone sick with coronavirus, give them a kiss on their lips and come back at the end of the month and tell us what you think we should do. You really don't get it and you equating this to drunk driving proves your lack of comprehension. If your neighbor is drunk driving and kills you while you are getting the mail you won't need a car.
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daspyknows
Please do us all a favor, find someone sick with coronavirus, give them a kiss on their lips and come back at the end of the month and tell us what you think we should do. You really don't get it and you equating this to drunk driving proves your lack of comprehension. If your neighbor is drunk driving and kills you while you are getting the mail you won't need a car.
You need to wake up and smell the coffee. The survivability rate for people who contract this damn virus is about 99.6%. So AT MOST the odds of my going out to dinner resulting in the death of someone else from COVID-19 is about .4%. What is the timeline on recovery from a simultaneous loss of job, loss of home, prolonged US recession and/or global depression?
I reject Stay Home Save Lives. I promote Get Outside. Preserve Your Liberty. As a by the way, doing so builds herd immunity.
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daspyknows
Please do us all a favor, find someone sick with coronavirus, give them a kiss on their lips and come back at the end of the month and tell us what you think we should do. You really don't get it and you equating this to drunk driving proves your lack of comprehension. If your neighbor is drunk driving and kills you while you are getting the mail you won't need a car.
You need to wake up and smell the coffee. The survivability rate for people who contract this damn virus is about 99.6%. So AT MOST the odds of my going out to dinner resulting in the death of someone else from COVID-19 is about .4%. What is the timeline on recovery from a simultaneous loss of job, loss of home, prolonged US recession and/or global depression?
I reject Stay Home Save Lives. I promote Get Outside. Preserve Your Liberty. As a by the way, doing so builds herd immunity.
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MisterDDDD
Everyone's talking about how they can avoid catching the virus, and how they are smart about it and their chances of survival etc.,
More importantly, I believe, is to act like you are the infected person, asymptomatic, and are the one capable of giving it to others.
Others who perhaps aren't in your age bracket, or who are health compromised, that you could infect and be responsible for their death and the continued spread of the disease.
As many, many, people are asymptomatic with this virus, it's a real possibility.
Acting as if you could infect someone ultimately makes you safer.
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daspyknows
Have you had Covid19? I have. I would not wish it upon anyone I care about. Anyone who seems to talk about a 99.6% survival rate really needs to catch it and see whether they still feel the same way or more effective, see the person who you care most about go through it.
Frankly, I should in theory have immunity so I am at a much lower risk so I can go out. Those who trivialize it like you probably would think differently after having it.
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daspyknows
Some people don't get that, but many are just selfish and think their rights to do what they want are more important than the lives of others.
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crholmstrom
I didn't know Dr Fauci was 79. He's still pretty spry IMHO.
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daspyknows
Some people don't get that, but many are just selfish and think their rights to do what they want are more important than the lives of others.
Weak argument. The social contract that was entered into was to flatten the curve. If people were as selfish as you claim there'd have been no cooperation to begin with.
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crholmstrom
I didn't know Dr Fauci was 79. He's still pretty spry IMHO.
He's about to become a lot less spry and lot more quiet as his complicity in this pandemic becomes known.
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MisterDDDD
...More importantly, I believe, is to act like you are the infected person, asymptomatic, and are the one capable of giving it to others.
Others who perhaps aren't in your age bracket, or who are health compromised, that you could infect and be responsible for their death and the continued spread of the disease.
As many, many, people are asymptomatic with this virus, it's a real possibility.
Acting as if you could infect someone ultimately makes you safer.
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steffialicia
I think he's being blocked because he challenges the powers that be.
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crholmstrom
Washington state stay at home order extended to May 31 with 4 step reopening strategy starting before then.
stay at home order