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There is a reason why people are asked to keep more than 2 meter / 6 feet distance. Still some leaders run PR conferences with a bunch of people a whole lot closer. History will tell how smart that is.
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This will be my 3rd shopping report since the lockdown in Norway Thursday March 12.
I loved to bike to the shop as often as I could. Any day. Every day. My wife asked me if I did really want to bike for the newspapers, or for oranges or apples, but all those biking trips were part of my daily life. After my biking accident on Sept 7 last year, I don't know if I will ever bike, may be in a year, I don't know. I am still not recovered, but I am improving. No more biking this year, for sure. I use to have an accident per year, no worries, some scratches, I love riding fast like 60 km/h (40 miles/h) downhill, offroad, any place, but now the hospitals are full, they don't want to see a stupid biker with a broken bone or a head injury.
So I am down to shopping one day per week, by car. First week Saturday morning at 7am, then 9am at the big store last week. Very few are up at those hours. The shop has been untouched for 8-12 hours, since closing the evening before, and I don't have to be close to other people. My wife hate shopping, I love it, except I don't love being close to others, who may potentially be carrying the virus.
Easter Holidays in Norway are eleven days of holidays, the biggest and most important holiday of the year outside summertime. Today people stop working, they go shopping, and they they would have left for their mountain cabins, but not this year. There is a ban of using cabins outside your own county. Still, shops are expected to be crowded, so I did my shopping this morning a 8am.
Very very few in the parking lot and in the shop. I walk in large circles past people, and others do the same. They say 2m / 6 ft minimum, but I like it the double. T here are antibacterial hand was at every shop entrance, and I use it both at entrance at exit. Then I wash my hands many many many times at home, and shower, feel like I have got a deadly virus every time I touch a plastic bag or a bread or an orange or anything I brought home from the store.
I got my wine earlier this week, no queues Tuesday at 10am, then I have beer, toilet paper, we have food for all of Easter, it feels like a war zone but I live in a rich country, I have no worries really. I am thinking of the homeless I saw many places on tour last year in Denver, Portland, Chicago, Phoenix, all over, and I wonder how they are now. Where do they sleep? How do they avoid the virus? How can they feel safe now?
The sun is shining. Yesterday we had some snow in the air at freezing point, but spring is here. We see the first spring flowers, the blackbird is singing already by 4am, long time before the sun is up, and the flowers and birds does not really pay any attention to the human worldwide crisis.
The Easter Holidays will be very different, that is for sure. Most of us stay at home, we do our best to keep the rest of us safe from the virus. Please please keep a distance, a big big distance, 2-3 m i.e. 6-9 feet at least, wash your hands often, don't let the virus move on, we will get through this within the next months.
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The government here in the U.K. keeps promising to get testing up to 25,000 tests a day but even at that rate it would take around 8 years to get everyone in the country tested.Of course not everyone in the country may need to be tested but it would certainly be smart to introduce much wider testing and also introduce a legacy test to know if people have had it and are now clear so we can get the economy moving in the right direction again.The current policy just proves how stupidly shortsighted the people in power are.
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More and more health orgs are recommending a mask. NYC mayor advised all residents to wear them in public today. [www.politico.com]
I have a couple homemade ones I'm now wearing in stores etc.
Joked about these early on, and now also have a couple of these on the way.
Don't look too bad, a place to insert filter etc (which are readily available), without impacting supply for medical professionals etc.
Rolling Stones "novelty face mask"
[www.amazon.com]
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Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
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EddieByword
Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
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EddieByword
Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
So far i don't think anyone has had the infection twice. In 2009 in the UK about 13,000 people died of flue and influenza type viruses, i think people are worrying more than need be, if you are unlikely to die of flu in an ordinary year you are unlikely to die of covid19 this year. Just keep the elderly and sick in isolation, that's the priority.
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Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
From memory I think there was a person in Washington State USA who got both the first coronavirus, and also the mutated one, which is now all over Europe and USA, i.e. sick two times.
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Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
So far i don't think anyone has had the infection twice. In 2009 in the UK about 13,000 people died of flue and influenza type viruses, i think people are worrying more than need be, if you are unlikely to die of flu in an ordinary year you are unlikely to die of covid19 this year. Just keep the elderly and sick in isolation, that's the priority.
Thanks but I think your assurances are a bit out of sync. I have emphysema and have a flu jab every year.
I understand that the yearly vaccine is only for the most common flu mutation prevailing in any given year but nevertheless it reduces my chances of dying from it, a lot, however, currently there is no vaccine for this little 'mother' so, if I get that, I could be in serious trouble.
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Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
So far i don't think anyone has had the infection twice. In 2009 in the UK about 13,000 people died of flue and influenza type viruses, i think people are worrying more than need be, if you are unlikely to die of flu in an ordinary year you are unlikely to die of covid19 this year. Just keep the elderly and sick in isolation, that's the priority.
Thanks but I think your assurances are a bit out of sync. I have emphysema and have a flu jab every year.
I understand that the yearly vaccine is only for the most common flu mutation prevailing in any given year but nevertheless it reduces my chances of dying from it, a lot, however, currently there is no vaccine for this little 'mother' so, if I get that, I could be in serious trouble.
Point taken
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Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
So far i don't think anyone has had the infection twice. In 2009 in the UK about 13,000 people died of flue and influenza type viruses, i think people are worrying more than need be, if you are unlikely to die of flu in an ordinary year you are unlikely to die of covid19 this year. Just keep the elderly and sick in isolation, that's the priority.
Thanks but I think your assurances are a bit out of sync. I have emphysema and have a flu jab every year.
I understand that the yearly vaccine is only for the most common flu mutation prevailing in any given year but nevertheless it reduces my chances of dying from it, a lot, however, currently there is no vaccine for this little 'mother' so, if I get that, I could be in serious trouble.
Point taken
.........I did re-read yours and thought maybe you were thinking I had no underlying/pre-existing health problems, in which case, of course, you would most likely be right and I would get away with it..................although a few fit youngsters have died in the UK recently.........anybody's guess which way this is going to...........so, as Keith said...."if your lucky, 'you'll' get old too"...................good luck to everyone.
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Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
So far i don't think anyone has had the infection twice. In 2009 in the UK about 13,000 people died of flue and influenza type viruses, i think people are worrying more than need be, if you are unlikely to die of flu in an ordinary year you are unlikely to die of covid19 this year. Just keep the elderly and sick in isolation, that's the priority.
Thanks but I think your assurances are a bit out of sync. I have emphysema and have a flu jab every year.
I understand that the yearly vaccine is only for the most common flu mutation prevailing in any given year but nevertheless it reduces my chances of dying from it, a lot, however, currently there is no vaccine for this little 'mother' so, if I get that, I could be in serious trouble.
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Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
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EddieByword
Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?
That's useful, thanks. My wife and I have both had it and still not quite back to normal but from the sound of it, it is possible to catch it again so we'd better not let our guard down. Bastard thing is just so unknown isn't it?
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Anybody heard anything about getting an infection twice?
A friend of mine was ill about a month ago. She recovered and went back to work. Then last week her husband got it and she also got sick again.............
The Health Secretary for the UK, Matt Hancock said on the BBC, last night, that the science on whether people were immune after recovering was "unclear"............
Anyone else have any personal experience or experience of someone you know of getting sick twice?