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Yes, the bonus material is what's interesting, not any "new remaster". But I don't feel I need these new "vault releases" on vinyl, as they are not like an ancient part of history like them original LPs. And they sound just like the CD releases. They are also "collectors items" allready when being put to the market and that doesn't make them only "purchaseable items" in my book. So I only care about the music itself when it comes to retrospective releases, not the "item thingy".....meaning that CDs will do the trick for me

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Update on the Dutch Amazon Super Deluxe CD Box deal:

Price and release date changed to September 4th, €30,22
[www.amazon.nl]

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jimmypage

Scarlet by @therollingstones and featuring JP, is out tomorrow.

Listen to the exclusive first play plus a chat with Mick Jagger and Jimmy tomorrow on @bbcradio2 with @zoetheball – tune in from 08:30 BST Wednesday July 22nd. Out everywhere 09:00 BST.

Thanks!

Notice the date on the box.

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So it's confirmed now it's not even a GOATS HEAD SOUP track Looks like it was done during mixing and overdubbing for IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N ROLL.

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So it's confirmed now it's not even a GOATS HEAD SOUP track Looks like it was done during mixing and overdubbing for IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N ROLL.

I think they've been trying to find a way to release this since Don Was was (haha) talking about it ten years ago. It might just fit better with GHS than IORR?

I wonder if they considered this to be the original IORR b-side, but used Through the Lonely Nights instead? Maybe this lead to some of the confusion about Page erroneously being thought to play on Lonely Nights.

Despite this, I can still see a IORR deluxe reissue with a *much needed* remix. The lead single is a smash hit, plus they can augment it with Living in the Heart of Love, Drift Away (could be a modern hit), Fast Talking (curiously missing from the current GHS reissue), and even LA Friday as a bonus disk.

Looking through the Taylor-era outtakes, that would pretty much wrap up the songs with vocals, except Hillside Blues and Traveling Man (). So unless Jagger wants to write some lyrics for Potted Shrimp and Windmill, that might be it.

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Actually looking at the other thread for "Scarlet" it reads as October 5, 1974 like it says on Nico's site.

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jimmypage

Scarlet by @therollingstones and featuring JP, is out tomorrow.

Listen to the exclusive first play plus a chat with Mick Jagger and Jimmy tomorrow on @bbcradio2 with @zoetheball – tune in from 08:30 BST Wednesday July 22nd. Out everywhere 09:00 BST.

Thanks!

Notice the date on the box.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR TOMORROW!!!! So it's confirmed now it's not even a GOATS HEAD SOUP track Looks like it was done during mixing and overdubbing for IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N ROLL.

Can anyone make out the two producers names? I see Glimmers but can't really tell about the other one. Also, I'm guessing the only two Stones on "Scarlet" are Mick and Keith? Very much like "IORR"

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"Brickwalled" means that when you examine the digital file comprising the music in a sound file editor, you do not see peaks and valleys you see one big black "wall" of signal. That means the dynamic range of the recording has been compressed, and then the volume (amplitude) of the signal has been raised near to or at the point of clipping. This makes for a very tiring listening experience and the human brain begins making adjustments for the sounds it is processing, literally giving the user a headache.

In contrast, the waveform of a properly mastered sound file will have peaks and valleys, at a certain level of magnification. These peaks and valleys represent the quietest passages versus the loudest passages, and all should be well below peak in the waveform. The peaks and valleys basically represent the dynamic range of the sound file, the difference between the levels of the quietest passages and the loudest.

The "brickwalling" generally takes place at the mastering stage, where the sound source is being finalized for production. These days, the "loudness wars" that began a few decades ago, have made brickwalling the default situation in the CD market. It increases the volume of the product and makes properly mastered CDs sound "weak" or "quiet" particularly by people with tin ears or poor reproduction equipment, and therefore "inferior" to the mass market. Hence. everyone does it, to the detriment of the music but also to protect the true original recordings from being available in pure, clean state.


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Not sure what you're talking about "a huge "mistake" deal". I meant a mistake with the the Amazon.nl listing price of €18,99.that some thought might be a mistake, or the wrong image and description and meant to be for the two cd set, and orders will end up being canceled. Since it's still listed, doesn't seem to be a mistake on their part, and everyone who orders it will get the Super Deluxe as advertised.

As for the Brussels Box, I've since read the price was originally closer to $400 (depending on where purchased) more or less, but it included much more than a watch. Three vinyl records, 2 cd's, a large tabletop leather cover book w/three dimensional tongue design, repro poster, a red silk bag w/Rolling Stones emblazoned in gold all housed in a massive wooden box. While $400+ was a bit pricey, many people bought it at that price. But waiting patiently, some of us paid $150 which was a steal. Same situation here - $110+ seems a bit pricey considering whats included, but am more than willing to be patient and buy it when the price drops. If you're in a hurry to get it and think it's a great deal, more power to you. There were people who bought the Brussles Box immediately upon release at original price, and all were pleased with it. As for me, I'm in no hurry whatsoever, and considering there will be no shortage of this mass produced set (unlike the limited Brussles Box), sales will happen sooner rather than later - or eventually for sure. In fact they already have on Amazon.nl for an amazing low price of €18,99. Something tells me we'll see something similar to the Blue and Lonesome Deluxe set sale when it was marked down to about $10 (which is really all it's worth) from apprx. $45 original outrageous price, and just like that sale I'll probably buy multiple copies to give away as gifts.

Oh, I get the concept, I got in on the B&L sets, gave as gifts etc.
And saw the Brussels box descriptions and misc items, although your descriptions do them more justice,, I was never a buyer at the $400+ range,
but may have been at $150 (what I incorrectly referred to as the "mistake" price) but even then, likely not. I don't usually buy any of the box sets etc at all, unless a deal.

GHS deluxe as a whole has my interest much more than others... loved the album, era, etc. Brings back great memories. That said, I guess what is more important to me, is that along with the new tracks and Blu-ray etc etc., did the Brussels box set have any different tracks or alt versions than what will be included in this set?
Should already know this and am sure the answer is in this thread, but for me, getting the Brussels recording that I've never purchased along with everything else, seems like a much bigger "bargain" (musically) than the Brussels box set even at $150. I'm sure I'm likely missing something though, and if they have a huge discount on GHS deluxe down the road, I will be giving more Stones gifts to friends and family for certain

The Brussels Box was officially released way back in 2012 as a limited edition, and it's always sort of been considered a Holy Grail, so it was a big deal for most Stones fans at the time to have it get an official release. Throw in a bunch of snazzy bells and whistles, and it was/is a supreme package. Considering the prices of it now as seen on the secondary markets, it's clear it's a unique release that many would practically kill for. I've had various Brussel Affair bootlegs for decades (cd and vinyl), but to hear it on official vinyl was truly something to behold. But now, eight years later, they finally decide to add it to GHS Deluxe with a few extra "rarities", when really they should have just released it on it's own as a standalone release. But no, they know how to plunder and pillage the fans who now have to splurge on an overpriced (imo) deluxe set that will eventually be found in the clearance bins. For the record, I'm referring to the CD/BluRay Deluxe as being a bit too pricey as the vinyl seems a somewhat more reasonable purchase (and physically much more worthy and attractive) even without the rolled up mini replica posters, but I've always liked vinyl over cd's anyways - the sound is a thousand times better, but to each his own.

Yeah.. I guess I am aware of most of that and can definitely see the appeal of the Brussels Box then and now.
I have GHS original in my sparse vinyl collection which I play only at my beach place and love it, but vinyl
is not something I have re-embraced as many have.

Kinda glad now that I didn't grab one as I can see how this would now not be as appealing to pick up. If deep discounts happen as is likely, I would put snagging the vinyl set high on my list still, the cd/bluray set seemed musically to be a much better value.

Thanks for the additional insights into the Brussels Box.
Look forward at some later date kicking myself for not snagging one while I had the chance

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Subject: Cockroaches (on the tape box) thats kind of odd. And I want to hear that "Stu Jimmy and Keef" cut, probably more than Scarlet itself.

Ironbelly your waveforms are not showing up but I am sure they illustrate what I said. That first one that is showing up is pretty decent dynamic range if you ask me and not clipped. A nice quiet mastering to my eyes.

And the Dutch deal is looking more realistic now, still a very decent price but the date now makes sense. I would go for it if I could.

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Great to know they're going to honour those original €18,99 orders (at least it appears that way)- you deserve it plexi, and as a bonus you'll get it on the official release date.

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Subject: Cockroaches (on the tape box) thats kind of odd.

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Subject: Cockroaches (on the tape box) thats kind of odd.
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Looks like they are going to sell a 7-inch of Scarlet but only with another version of the LP (alternate cover with black vinyl and 1 LP).

[uk.therollingstonesshop.com]

Crazy.

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Looks like they are going to sell a 7-inch of Scarlet but only with another version of the LP (alternate cover with black vinyl and 1 LP).

[uk.therollingstonesshop.com]

Crazy.

Ordered the deluxe cd box, but definitely will be picking up a vinyl copy at some point when the dust settles.. This one may be it. Like the alternative cover and unless they package the 7" with something else, this would work very nicely.