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The Buffalo Bills play in Buffalo 9/12 then are gone till 9/26. I believe it took about a week to get the stadium ready for their 2015 show, and then 3 days to clear all out. So the 16th is in that window.

That’s not true The assembly of the stage starts about 48 hours before the show. The disassembly is down in about 18 hours. All the trucks are gone within 24 hours

Your information is incorrect as well. It generally takes 3 days to erect the steel stage structure (40 to 50 stagehands working 8 to 10 hours per day with 2 or 3 construction cranes) although this can be compressed to about 2 days if necessary by crews working round the clock. Then it takes one 12-16 hour day (with a crew of 100+) on the day before show day to load in the tour production equipment (sound, lighting, video, stage set, dressing rooms, etc.) On show day the Stones band gear and support act equipment is set up on stage, security barricades and chairs are set up on the field, concessions and merchandise stands are readied, etc. Then immediately after the show the production equipment is loaded out (about 4 hours) and following this the stage is disassembled and loaded onto trucks and driven to the following tour stop. On the No Filter Tour there are 2 stages which "leapfrog" to consecutive cities. So, it takes about 6 or 7 days from the time when the first truck is unloaded until the last one leaves the parking lot. The football field is usually ready to use within a day after the show however, NFL rules state that the field needs to be ready 72 hours before a game so the teams have time to set up their equipment and practice on the field. Therefore you need to have the stadium available for 7 to 9 days in order to stage a concert. This means that in most cases, a Monday/Sunday-to-Sunday/Monday availability does not work.

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The Buffalo Bills play in Buffalo 9/12 then are gone till 9/26. I believe it took about a week to get the stadium ready for their 2015 show, and then 3 days to clear all out. So the 16th is in that window.

That’s not true The assembly of the stage starts about 48 hours before the show. The disassembly is down in about 18 hours. All the trucks are gone within 24 hours

Your information is incorrect as well. It generally takes 3 days to erect the steel stage structure (40 to 50 stagehands working 8 to 10 hours per day with 2 or 3 construction cranes) although this can be compressed to about 2 days if necessary by crews working round the clock. Then it takes one 12-16 hour day (with a crew of 100+) on the day before show day to load in the tour production equipment (sound, lighting, video, stage set, dressing rooms, etc.) On show day the Stones band gear and support act equipment is set up on stage, security barricades and chairs are set up on the field, concessions and merchandise stands are readied, etc. Then immediately after the show the production equipment is loaded out (about 4 hours) and following this the stage is disassembled and loaded onto trucks and driven to the following tour stop. On the No Filter Tour there are 2 stages which "leapfrog" to consecutive cities. So, it takes about 6 or 7 days from the time when the first truck is unloaded until the last one leaves the parking lot. The football field is usually ready to use within a day after the show however, NFL rules state that the field needs to be ready 72 hours before a game so the teams have time to set up their equipment and practice on the field. Therefore you need to have the stadium available for 7 to 9 days in order to stage a concert. This means that in most cases, a Monday/Sunday-to-Sunday/Monday availability does not work.

No you are incorrect. My brother used to drive for Truck and Roll. I just got off the phone with him to confirm. Assembly starts 2 days before in the morning The last truck rolls out about 20 hours after the show is done. You’re wrong

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I am an IATSE union stagehand with 25+ years experience and have worked hundreds of arena and stadium shows in the NYC/NJ and San Francisco Bay Area over the years. I have also worked on the road for the Rolling Stones on the Bridges To Babylon/No Security, Licks and A Bigger Bang tours. I worked on the No Filter shows in New Jersey and Philadelphia in 2019 so I know first hand what I'm talking about. So, do you still want to argue with me?

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The Buffalo Bills play in Buffalo 9/12 then are gone till 9/26. I believe it took about a week to get the stadium ready for their 2015 show, and then 3 days to clear all out. So the 16th is in that window.

That’s not true The assembly of the stage starts about 48 hours before the show. The disassembly is down in about 18 hours. All the trucks are gone within 24 hours

Your information is incorrect as well. It generally takes 3 days to erect the steel stage structure (40 to 50 stagehands working 8 to 10 hours per day with 2 or 3 construction cranes) although this can be compressed to about 2 days if necessary by crews working round the clock. Then it takes one 12-16 hour day (with a crew of 100+) on the day before show day to load in the tour production equipment (sound, lighting, video, stage set, dressing rooms, etc.) On show day the Stones band gear and support act equipment is set up on stage, security barricades and chairs are set up on the field, concessions and merchandise stands are readied, etc. Then immediately after the show the production equipment is loaded out (about 4 hours) and following this the stage is disassembled and loaded onto trucks and driven to the following tour stop. On the No Filter Tour there are 2 stages which "leapfrog" to consecutive cities. So, it takes about 6 or 7 days from the time when the first truck is unloaded until the last one leaves the parking lot. The football field is usually ready to use within a day after the show however, NFL rules state that the field needs to be ready 72 hours before a game so the teams have time to set up their equipment and practice on the field. Therefore you need to have the stadium available for 7 to 9 days in order to stage a concert. This means that in most cases, a Monday/Sunday-to-Sunday/Monday availability does not work.

No you are incorrect. My brother used to drive for Truck and Roll. I just got off the phone with him to confirm. Assembly starts 2 days before in the morning The last truck rolls out about 20 hours after the show is done. You’re wrong

I am an IATSE union stagehand with 25+ years experience and have worked hundreds of arena and stadium shows in the NYC/NJ and San Francisco Bay Area over the years. I have also worked on the road for the Rolling Stones on the Bridges To Babylon/No Security, Licks and A Bigger Bang tours. I worked on the No Filter shows in New Jersey and Philadelphia in 2019 so I know first hand what I'm talking about. So, do you still want to argue with me?

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IATSE strong! I was film, but wished I'd worked rock n' roll (seems musicians want to be actors, and actors want to be musicians, is it the same for crew?).

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I am an IATSE union stagehand with 25+ years experience and have worked hundreds of arena and stadium shows in the NYC/NJ and San Francisco Bay Area over the years. I have also worked on the road for the Rolling Stones on the Bridges To Babylon/No Security, Licks and A Bigger Bang tours. I worked on the No Filter shows in New Jersey and Philadelphia in 2019 so I know first hand what I'm talking about. So, do you still want to argue with me?

Quick aside (and a bit trivial)
I saw "crew shirts" at some of the NF shows in '19, including in NJ.

Bit of a unique tour shirt fan (snagged a few from a tour truck driver in Santa Clara) but the ones they had marked for crew in NJ were quite nice.
Get in on that at all??

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The Buffalo Bills play in Buffalo 9/12 then are gone till 9/26. I believe it took about a week to get the stadium ready for their 2015 show, and then 3 days to clear all out. So the 16th is in that window.

No you are incorrect. My brother used to drive for Truck and Roll. I just got off the phone with him to confirm. Assembly starts 2 days before in the morning The last truck rolls out about 20 hours after the show is done. You’re wrong

I am an IATSE union stagehand with 25+ years experience and have worked hundreds of arena and stadium shows in the NYC/NJ and San Francisco Bay Area over the years. I have also worked on the road for the Rolling Stones on the Bridges To Babylon/No Security, Licks and A Bigger Bang tours. I worked on the No Filter shows in New Jersey and Philadelphia in 2019 so I know first hand what I'm talking about. So, do you still want to argue with me?

Waaah! Wasah! Waaah! Grow up and stop making things up little boy

Taken from a 2017 article in "Live Production" in 2017.
A professional concert industry website.

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posted:22/10/2017

Since building the support structure for Mark Fisher’s iconic, fire-breathing cobra on the 1994/95 Voodoo Lounge tour, StageCo has been proud to have a close association with the world’s greatest and most enduring rock’n’roll band, The Rolling Stones. This year (2017) has seen them back on the road with No Filter – yet another spectacular production milestone that has spanned outdoor stadiums & arenas around Europe with StageCo’s expertise close to hand all the way.

From the outset, the band’s main wish was for a tidy and streamlined production, with sleek contours but absolutely no hint of behind the scenes steelwork. Spreading 60 metres wide, the resulting set features four monolithic 22m high x 11m wide LED video screens, a 28m long T-shaped catwalk and B-stage, and a bespoke, cantilevered, transparent-skinned ‘roofette’ that hovers above the band.

Stefaan Vandenbosch, the leader of one of the two outdoor Stageco crews (Kevin De Meyer managed the other), commented: “Each system fills 17 trucks. Working with our own team of 14 along with 15 local climbers (riggers) and 15 stage hands, it takes two and a half days to load in with six fork lifts and a pair of cranes, and we are averaging about 18 hours to pull it all down and put back into the trucks to head to the next venue.” *

* Note: they are talking about the steel stage structure here, not the entire tour production (lights, sound, video, set, etc.) That takes an additional day to load in.



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I just looked at an old Bills schedule. They played Sunday Oct 5 Three days later The Stones played That means they start setting up 48 before the show. Yeah Torn And Frayed quit the BS facts are facts I laughed about your job. Yeah right lol

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I just looked at an old Bills schedule. They played Sunday Oct 5 Three days later The Stones played That means they start setting up 48 before the show. Yeah Torn And Frayed quit the BS facts are facts I laughed about your job. Yeah right lol

That was 1997. Since at least 2014, the stage construction has taken a minimum of four days prior to the concert. I believe it can be taken down in approximately 18 hours. The Stones need 5-6 days.

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I just looked at an old Bills schedule. They played Sunday Oct 5 Three days later The Stones played That means they start setting up 48 before the show. Yeah Torn And Frayed quit the BS facts are facts I laughed about your job. Yeah right lol

That was 1997. Since at least 2014, the stage construction has taken a minimum of four days prior to the concert. I believe it can be taken down in approximately 18 hours. The Stones need 5-6 days.

The Bridges To Babylon stage took as long (if not longer) to set up as the No Filter stage does. In this case in Buffalo, they had to do a compressed build with additional stagehands working around the clock in 12-hour shifts in order to get the stage ready in time. They started working shortly after the game was over (it was a 1 PM start time) and it was finished in about 30 hours rather than the usual 3 days (working 10-hour days). Production load in was the day before the show (Tuesday, October 7) and the show was on Wednesday.

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Well this is interesting - I was just reading that people who have been vaccinated with the Astra Zeneca vaccine won’t be allowed the in audience for Springsteen on Broadway, because AZ is not a US FDA-approved vaccine. This may be temporary, but it’s worth watching to see if similar rules might apply to a Stones tour. Damn.

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Article blocked by paywall, but the headline says it all:

Burn in the U.S.A.: Canadians who got the AstraZeneca vaccine can’t see ‘Springsteen on Broadway’

WTF...aside from Canadians, there's plenty of Boss fans in other countries who have had the AstraZeneca vaccine,
and I imagine there are some who were planning/hoping to see him on Broadway. Hope it gets worked out for everyone somehow...

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The Astrazeneca vaccine is excellent and works extremely well so this is just another example of red tape,stupidity and slow progress from officialdom in getting things moving.


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The Astrazeneca vaccine is excellent and works extremely well so this is just another example of red tape,stupidity and slow progress from officialdom in getting things moving.


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100% correct.....but, who is ultimately in charge of this policy? Bruce? The theater? NY? NYC?

Besides, this is also an example of baseless segregation...it has the same amount of scientific validity as segregation based on skin color....zero.

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The Astrazeneca vaccine is excellent and works extremely well so this is just another example of red tape,stupidity and slow progress from officialdom in getting things moving.


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100% correct.....but, who is ultimately in charge of this policy? Bruce? The theater? NY? NYC?

Besides, this is also an example of baseless segregation...it has the same amount of scientific validity as segregation based on skin color....zero.

This is not like segregation based on skin color. That is racist and disgusting. People have no choice in what race they are born. Vaccination or non vaccination is a personal choice. If someone chooses not to get vaccinated they should not complain they are precluded from entering a private business that chooses to require vaccinations. If you want to go, get vaccinated. Period.

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Are there any rumors that they plan on following the same itinerary from last year? So far there have been three potentially leaked or rumored dates to surface, and they seem to suggest that they could. If they follow the same route, and with the same amount of days in between shows, the dates could look something like this:

Vancouver 8/24
Minneapolis 8/28*
Nashville 9/1
Austin 9/5
Dallas 9/10
Buffalo 9/16
Detroit 9/20
Louisville 9/24*
Cleveland 9/29
Pittsburgh 10/3*
St. Louis 10/7
Charlotte 10/12
Tampa 10/16
Atlanta 10/20

Dates marked with an asterisk are the ones that are currently rumored. Of course, this is purely speculation on my part. I've not looked into whether or not the stadiums are available on these dates, or if it conflicts at all with the NFL schedule; I only found it interesting that the currently rumored dates seem to line up in such a way.

They could hold off Vancouver til the end being indoors. I don't think there's been any concerts held yet where the roof has been opened.

I don't see why the Stones would necessarily want to follow the previous itinerary. There are ways they could reconfigure the new schedule in a way that would involve less travel.

They're no doubt contractually committed to the venues in some fashion, in addition to other monies spent advertising, printing tickets, etc.
Not to mention a fair amount of tix already sold to them,

I like HotStuff92's guess at the dates and think it will be close.
Will be interesting to see where they play in lieu of the now defunct San Diego venue..
My bet (pun intended) is Vegas, but the southern Cal market is one I doubt they'll abandon, so they'll perhaps more likely kick it off somewhere in LA or SD.
I would add whatever that venue ends up being to the top of HS's list, potentially putting the opener in the 8/20 range.

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It’s pathetic that these issues such as vaccine passports and long queues at border controls have not been solved already.Authorities have known since early last year that this would be an issue when borders started to reopen and all that’s required is digital technology that already exists.
If only the same people who produced the vaccines were put in charge of everything Covid related we would all be back to normality much quicker than is happening with the muppets in charge in the halls of power.

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