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mpj200
It’s useless to compare the Stones tour to the Dead tour. Completely different venues and circumstances.
Nah. No tour is going to be like a Stones tour (magnitude, members' ages, etc.), but with the band members' ages, they're in the same ballpark.
Tell me, what active band is comparable?
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mpj200
The Stones are booked in American Football stadiums where most teams hold their day to day operations. Meetings, weights, film studies. The tour would need to be over before the regular season started.
The promoters had a hard time in 2019 getting the last few shows rescheduled because the teams were playing their warm up games.
The band also has to be healthy enough to be cleared for insurance. Hoping that won’t be a problem.
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mpj200
The Stones are booked in American Football stadiums where most teams hold their day to day operations. Meetings, weights, film studies. The tour would need to be over before the regular season started.
The promoters had a hard time in 2019 getting the last few shows rescheduled because the teams were playing their warm up games.
The band also has to be healthy enough to be cleared for insurance. Hoping that won’t be a problem.Quote
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mpj200
It’s useless to compare the Stones tour to the Dead tour. Completely different venues and circumstances.
Nah. No tour is going to be like a Stones tour (magnitude, members' ages, etc.), but with the band members' ages, they're in the same ballpark.
Tell me, what active band is comparable?
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Stones could do full crowds in Florida, Texas and Colorado for sure right now. Probably Vegas stadium.
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TooTight
I think you're right that insurance is the biggest issue, both for the band and for tour cancellation.
But stadium availability: every big tour since Steel Wheels has started late summer in the US, playing football stadiums. Logistically not great, but precedent says that shouldn't be a dealbreaker, especially when shows are spread out as much as they are.
I'm kind of curious about the potential of voiding contracts in Texas and Florida?Quote
mpj200
The Stones are booked in American Football stadiums where most teams hold their day to day operations. Meetings, weights, film studies. The tour would need to be over before the regular season started.
The promoters had a hard time in 2019 getting the last few shows rescheduled because the teams were playing their warm up games.
The band also has to be healthy enough to be cleared for insurance. Hoping that won’t be a problem.
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TooTight
I think you're right that insurance is the biggest issue, both for the band and for tour cancellation.
But stadium availability: every big tour since Steel Wheels has started late summer in the US, playing football stadiums. Logistically not great, but precedent says that shouldn't be a dealbreaker, especially when shows are spread out as much as they are.
I'm kind of curious about the potential of voiding contracts in Texas and Florida?
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mpj200
The Stones are booked in American Football stadiums where most teams hold their day to day operations. Meetings, weights, film studies. The tour would need to be over before the regular season started.
The promoters had a hard time in 2019 getting the last few shows rescheduled because the teams were playing their warm up games.
The band also has to be healthy enough to be cleared for insurance. Hoping that won’t be a problem.
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mpj200
The Stones are booked in American Football stadiums where most teams hold their day to day operations. Meetings, weights, film studies. The tour would need to be over before the regular season started.
The promoters had a hard time in 2019 getting the last few shows rescheduled because the teams were playing their warm up games.
The band also has to be healthy enough to be cleared for insurance. Hoping that won’t be a problem.
Being we're already mid-May, and considering all the various pandemic mandates, seems it would take a miracle to try and reschedule all the postponed shows to dates before the NFL season starts.
But the #1 priority and hope is that all the band members are healthy, and whether or not they're able to reschedule any postponed shows at all seems secondary at this point.
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Sockers56
The Pit:
I have 2 pit tickets for Detroit. They are mine. I'm not selling! Does everyone think whether or not there will even be a pit? I can't really see people social distancing in the pit. Maybe, we will need to show our vaccination cards. Opinions?
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Nate
Sometimes at football games here in the U.K. when the game finishes they keep one set of fans from leaving the stadium until the other set of fans has left and vacated the area.This is done as a precaution as there previously may have been violent clashes between the two different sets of fans.
Will we now see vaccinated fans at large events being let out first so they can quickly run away from the unvaccinated
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Brilliant observation. Health comes first. Ron’s still recovering from his treatment.Quote
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mpj200
The Stones are booked in American Football stadiums where most teams hold their day to day operations. Meetings, weights, film studies. The tour would need to be over before the regular season started.
The promoters had a hard time in 2019 getting the last few shows rescheduled because the teams were playing their warm up games.
The band also has to be healthy enough to be cleared for insurance. Hoping that won’t be a problem.
Being we're already mid-May, and considering all the various pandemic mandates, seems it would take a miracle to try and reschedule all the postponed shows to dates before the NFL season starts.
But the #1 priority and hope is that all the band members are healthy, and whether or not they're able to reschedule any postponed shows at all seems secondary at this point.
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mpj200
The Stones are booked in American Football stadiums where most teams hold their day to day operations. Meetings, weights, film studies. The tour would need to be over before the regular season started.
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Nate
Heard a rumour that the band is looking at playing 10 dates later this year in arenas in November-December taking in cities including Los Angeles,Chicago,Miami,New York and Toronto.
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Heard a rumour that the band is looking at playing 10 dates later this year in arenas in November-December taking in cities including Los Angeles,Chicago,Miami,New York and Toronto.
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Heard a rumour that the band is looking at playing 10 dates later this year in arenas in November-December taking in cities including Los Angeles,Chicago,Miami,New York and Toronto.
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You mean basketball arenas? The Stones generally don't play for less than 50,000 people, right? Basketball arenas only hold around 20,000. Could they make enough money off of 20,000 tickets per show? And, if they're planning on that, why not just stick with the stadium tour with distancing measures? The number of people would be the same, they could do it in the fall instead of the winter, and be on track for a 2022 60th anniversary tour.
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Nate
Heard a rumour that the band is looking at playing 10 dates later this year in arenas in November-December taking in cities including Los Angeles,Chicago,Miami,New York and Toronto.
Nate
You mean basketball arenas? The Stones generally don't play for less than 50,000 people, right? Basketball arenas only hold around 20,000. Could they make enough money off of 20,000 tickets per show? And, if they're planning on that, why not just stick with the stadium tour with distancing measures? The number of people would be the same, they could do it in the fall instead of the winter, and be on track for a 2022 60th anniversary tour.
Arenas would be a good way of negating any weather issues apart from hurricane direct hits. The band won't wish to play in cool/cold weather any more. Rain, sun or snow: arenas take away most of the climate risks. It will also be much cheaper to run, as you need less equipment, smaller stage, and a much smaller crew.So the economics might work for them.
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Nate
Heard a rumour that the band is looking at playing 10 dates later this year in arenas in November-December taking in cities including Los Angeles,Chicago,Miami,New York and Toronto.
Nate
You mean basketball arenas? The Stones generally don't play for less than 50,000 people, right? Basketball arenas only hold around 20,000. Could they make enough money off of 20,000 tickets per show? And, if they're planning on that, why not just stick with the stadium tour with distancing measures? The number of people would be the same, they could do it in the fall instead of the winter, and be on track for a 2022 60th anniversary tour.
Arenas would be a good way of negating any weather issues apart from hurricane direct hits. The band won't wish to play in cool/cold weather any more. Rain, sun or snow: arenas take away most of the climate risks. It will also be much cheaper to run, as you need less equipment, smaller stage, and a much smaller crew.So the economics might work for them.
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NashvilleBlues
After looking at the 2021 NFL schedule, here's my US Fall Stones proposed tour schedule:
8/20- Vancouver
8/24- Detroit
8/28- Minneapolis
9/1- Cleveland
9/5- Buffalo
9/9- Pittsburg
9/13- Louisville
9/17- St. Louis
9/21- Dallas
9/25- Austin
9/29- Charlotte
10/3- Atlanta
10/7- Nashville
10/11- Tampa
10/15- San Diego
Would this work? If the tour starts 8/4, it could be over by 9/29.