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There is no way they can tour until the world is safe vs covid-19. The only places they could tour are Australia and New Zealand, where the borders are covid-19-closed, but I can not see Mick, Keith and the rest of the band- and crew - sitting two weeks in a quarantine hotel down under.

Sure vaccine doses are handled in USA, UK and a few other places at a great speed. Still most of the population age 0-50 are still not vaccinated, and as far as I know. Also, many do not want to get vaccinated. Outside the rick countries in the western world, hardly anyone are vaccinated. Travel to USA and UK is still possible from India, Brazil, and other high-infection areas, via other countries.

We are all in the same boat, unfortunately. I just can not imagine myself sitting in a chair in a stadium, at a Stones show, mask on, 3-6 feet apart from friends. It's not really rock'n'roll.

While I was hoping for the slim possibility of a Spring/Summer 2022 rescheduling, right now even that sounds a bit too overly optimistic.
Seems 2023 is probably being more realistic and rational, but not sure if the Stones will be up for it that far off in the future, and at their age.
But maybe things will change again, and hopefully for the better. I still think best case scenario is a few small shows in London
next year to celebrate the 60th, with limited attendance, restrictions in place, etc., etc., etc.

As for sitting in a chair in a stadium at a Stones show, mask on, 3-6 feet apart... definitely not rock'n'roll at all...more like a visit to a library.

Just shows how widely people range in their opinions and/or comfort levels. I fully plan on attending the July 6, 2021 Black Crowes show at Ascend (general admission grass).

Stones not touring till 2023? Might as well call it a day, if that's the case.

I was giving an opinion on the possibility of the Stones rescheduling - not my personal comfort level. There's too many variables that need to be worked out before the Stones will commit to a rescheduling, and until all of those factors are worked out, can't see it happening any time soon. The Stones are nearly 80 years old and it takes an entire village to get their tour moving properly. Considering the current situation with anti-vaxxers, surges, variants/mutations, and dozens of other unknowns, hard to imagine the Stones would ever put themselves, their crew, and their fans at any risk if it can be avoided. The only way to avoid those risks now is to wait it out patiently, but unfortunately time keeps on ticking. And unlike other bands, they certainly don't need the money. As for the Black Crowes show at Ascend, if it's not postponed again, hope you have a good time.

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Norway introduced closed borders similar to the system they have in Australia, still not completely closed. After that the cases are down by 75%, and people in hospital are down by more than 50%. No international sports are allowed in Norway, no foreigners are entering without a hotel quarantine. They say the UK, Brazil, South America and even India variants all came in to our country through import, travel. Closing the border was the only way to slow down the virus.

I don't know if the US borders are closed. You can probably travel from India or Brazil to USA, through other countries. Until 80% or more of the entire population is vaccinated, including kids and young people, the virus will reappear. More than half of all the new covid-19 positives in our most recent wave was age under 18. The new variants move fast among children, silently, then they are passed onto the parents, and further on everywhere.

Sure there will be stadium events, but that will be mainly with low-risk athets and performers in sports and entertainment under the age of 60, with low risk of side effects in case of catching the virus. Mick and Keith will turn 78 this year. Ronnie will be 74 soon. Charlie will be 80 this summer. They are not in their 20's anymore. They do not have the stamina of young NHL and NFL players.

Sure I wish they will tour soon, but I am sure their doctors will have a saying about risk and travel to places where covid-19 is still around. Also, the insurance company will probably have a saying.

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If Charlie, Keith, Mick or Ronnie were elderly relatives of mine, I certainly wouldn't want to be sending them out to perform in outdoor stadiums amidst tens of thousands of people during a global pandemic.

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There is all the talk of the "supply" side of the equation. There is little talk of the "demand" side of things. Most sports teams have capacity caps on events. If people were comfortable baseball teams would be selling out the 1/3 capacity for outdoor games. Right now that isn't generally the case. If that holds true and there is no reason not to expect that, a Stones tour would be a financial bloodbath to the promoters or the Stones would need to be willing to take a major haircut on their receipts. I can't see 50,000 people attending any shows right now at $200 to $1,000 a ticket. Others may disagree and we will see soon enough..

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Vaccinated is vaccinated.
Jesus, we're supposed to worry about vaccinated people traveling and going out etc now? Laughable.

Nope.
The fear mongering and negativity is strong in some.

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Vaccinated is vaccinated.
Jesus, we're supposed to worry about vaccinated people traveling and going out etc now? Laughable.

Nope.
The fear mongering and negativity is strong in some.

There is a certain section of society that would prefer some Covid restrictions to remain in place permanently and even some people who would like to be locked down forever.

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Vaccinated is vaccinated.
Jesus, we're supposed to worry about vaccinated people traveling and going out etc now? Laughable.

Nope.
The fear mongering and negativity is strong in some.

There is a certain section of society that would prefer some Covid restrictions to remain in place permanently and even some people who would like to be locked down forever.

Nate

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Vaccinated is vaccinated.
Jesus, we're supposed to worry about vaccinated people traveling and going out etc now? Laughable.

Nope.
The fear mongering and negativity is strong in some.

There is a certain section of society that would prefer some Covid restrictions to remain in place permanently and even some people who would like to be locked down forever.

Nate

Personally, I think the mask improves my looks.

thank you
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There is all the talk of the "supply" side of the equation. There is little talk of the "demand" side of things. Most sports teams have capacity caps on events. If people were comfortable baseball teams would be selling out the 1/3 capacity for outdoor games. Right now that isn't generally the case. If that holds true and there is no reason not to expect that, a Stones tour would be a financial bloodbath to the promoters or the Stones would need to be willing to take a major haircut on their receipts. I can't see 50,000 people attending any shows right now at $200 to $1,000 a ticket. Others may disagree and we will see soon enough..

All valid points, and time will tell.

By the way daspy, I'm sure you've heard the good news earlier that down here in LA and up north in San Francisco (near your turf), both cities are moving in to the least restrictive yellow tier based on the success in lowering the coronavirus cases, hospitalizations, deaths, etc. Certainly no time to completely let down our guards, but both LA and SF can pat themselves on the backs for a job well done, and have to admit it's rather satisfying.
At the rate we're going in California, maybe the Stones will decide to take up residency here some time in the future, that's if things keep going the positive way they're going here - gotta keep the faith.

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Vaccinated is vaccinated.
Jesus, we're supposed to worry about vaccinated people traveling and going out etc now? Laughable.

Nope.
The fear mongering and negativity is strong in some.

There is a certain section of society that would prefer some Covid restrictions to remain in place permanently and even some people who would like to be locked down forever.

Nate

Personally, I think the mask improves my looks.

thank you
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I'm fully vaccinated and still vulnerable because the meds I take greatly reduce the efficacy of the vaccine, and there are many people like me.

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Garth Brooks who is opening the new stadium in Las Vegas NV on July 10th
just made history with the fastest stadium sell out in US history 50,000 tickets in less than 30 minutes for a show in salt lake city utah on July 17th.
[twitter.com]

also speculation Red Rocks 10,000 capacity will be at full crowd by July
[www.facebook.com]

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NFL schedule will be released in two days. In addition to the pandemic, stadium availability in late August through mid November should tell us a bit about Stones tour.

Tough to schedule when you need to block an entire week between stage building, night of show and tear down/load out.

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NFL schedule will be released in two days. In addition to the pandemic, stadium availability in late August through mid November should tell us a bit about Stones tour.

Tough to schedule when you need to block an entire week between stage building, night of show and tear down/load out.

What Stones tour?

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On the bright side maybe we will get some cool Merch/posters for the 60th Anniversary Tour! Lithos were a bit weak for 2019 Tour.