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I thought about Mick, but I'm talking about the average 75 year old who hasn't devoted himself to physical fitness. De Niro and Pacino both have stooped postures...you can't suddenly force your body to spring upright and walk like a younger man.Quote
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If you're 75, you're 75. No amount of coaching is going to make you suddenly able to move around like you're 40.<<<<
Who forgot to give Mick Jagger the memo?
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keefriff99I thought about Mick, but I'm talking about the average 75 year old who hasn't devoted himself to physical fitness. De Niro and Pacino both have stooped postures...you can't suddenly force your body to spring upright and walk like a younger man.Quote
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If you're 75, you're 75. No amount of coaching is going to make you suddenly able to move around like you're 40.<<<<
Who forgot to give Mick Jagger the memo?
Not when you're physically incapable, but okay...Quote
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If you're 75, you're 75. No amount of coaching is going to make you suddenly able to move around like you're 40.<<<<
Who forgot to give Mick Jagger the memo?
It's called acting.
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Goodfellas and Casino had an awful lot of absurdity and stupidity, which certainly felt comic.
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Goodfellas and Casino had an awful lot of absurdity and stupidity, which certainly felt comic.
That's the point right? Showing that professional criminals are basically dummies...or complete psychos, for the worst of them.
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the mythic Godfather approach.
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Earlier I read a comment from someone who was wondering how historically accurate this film is. For anyone who is interested in this I would recommend checking out the latest episode of the podcast Original Gangsters.
I'm midway through it and it provides some great insight into the actual people portrayed in the film.
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Earlier I read a comment from someone who was wondering how historically accurate this film is. For anyone who is interested in this I would recommend checking out the latest episode of the podcast Original Gangsters.
I'm midway through it and it provides some great insight into the actual people portrayed in the film.
I was wondering based on a single scene, where a would be assassin tries to shoot Jimmy Hoffa and his gun misfires. It seems pretty significant, and though I admit I am not all that knowledgeable about Jimmy Hoffa, I still felt that is something I would have read about at some point.
So I did a google search on 3 or so sites, about his life, and saw no mention of this failed attempt to kill him. So that makes me question whether it was just made up for dramatic effect (and if so, that brings my rating of the movie down another notch, as my feelings are, if the story is interesting enough, no meed to make up shit).
So I still don't know if it occurred or not, but if not, then i have to wonder how much else of the movie is BS.
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Earlier I read a comment from someone who was wondering how historically accurate this film is. For anyone who is interested in this I would recommend checking out the latest episode of the podcast Original Gangsters.
I'm midway through it and it provides some great insight into the actual people portrayed in the film.
I was wondering based on a single scene, where a would be assassin tries to shoot Jimmy Hoffa and his gun misfires. It seems pretty significant, and though I admit I am not all that knowledgeable about Jimmy Hoffa, I still felt that is something I would have read about at some point.
So I did a google search on 3 or so sites, about his life, and saw no mention of this failed attempt to kill him. So that makes me question whether it was just made up for dramatic effect (and if so, that brings my rating of the movie down another notch, as my feelings are, if the story is interesting enough, no meed to make up shit).
So I still don't know if it occurred or not, but if not, then i have to wonder how much else of the movie is BS.
Of course there is a lot of creative license. The movie depicts specific things relating to Jimmy Hoffa's demise and disappearance (no spoilers!), and it is logical. But, no one really knows what actually happened, so that is obviously BS. I don't care, I loved every minute of the movie...and that's a LOT of minutes!
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Earlier I read a comment from someone who was wondering how historically accurate this film is. For anyone who is interested in this I would recommend checking out the latest episode of the podcast Original Gangsters.
I'm midway through it and it provides some great insight into the actual people portrayed in the film.
I was wondering based on a single scene, where a would be assassin tries to shoot Jimmy Hoffa and his gun misfires. It seems pretty significant, and though I admit I am not all that knowledgeable about Jimmy Hoffa, I still felt that is something I would have read about at some point.
So I did a google search on 3 or so sites, about his life, and saw no mention of this failed attempt to kill him. So that makes me question whether it was just made up for dramatic effect (and if so, that brings my rating of the movie down another notch, as my feelings are, if the story is interesting enough, no meed to make up shit).
So I still don't know if it occurred or not, but if not, then i have to wonder how much else of the movie is BS.
Of course there is a lot of creative license. The movie depicts specific things relating to Jimmy Hoffa's demise and disappearance (no spoilers!), and it is logical. But, no one really knows what actually happened, so that is obviously BS. I don't care, I loved every minute of the movie...and that's a LOT of minutes!
Well I realize nobody knows for sure what happened to him in the end... but the failed attempt to shoot him would be factual as it happens in a crowd in the film. So are you aware if that was made up just for the film? If so, that is a pretty significant addition to take creative licensing with, i feel.
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Earlier I read a comment from someone who was wondering how historically accurate this film is. For anyone who is interested in this I would recommend checking out the latest episode of the podcast Original Gangsters.
I'm midway through it and it provides some great insight into the actual people portrayed in the film.
I was wondering based on a single scene, where a would be assassin tries to shoot Jimmy Hoffa and his gun misfires. It seems pretty significant, and though I admit I am not all that knowledgeable about Jimmy Hoffa, I still felt that is something I would have read about at some point.
So I did a google search on 3 or so sites, about his life, and saw no mention of this failed attempt to kill him. So that makes me question whether it was just made up for dramatic effect (and if so, that brings my rating of the movie down another notch, as my feelings are, if the story is interesting enough, no meed to make up shit).
So I still don't know if it occurred or not, but if not, then i have to wonder how much else of the movie is BS.
Of course there is a lot of creative license. The movie depicts specific things relating to Jimmy Hoffa's demise and disappearance (no spoilers!), and it is logical. But, no one really knows what actually happened, so that is obviously BS. I don't care, I loved every minute of the movie...and that's a LOT of minutes!
Well I realize nobody knows for sure what happened to him in the end... but the failed attempt to shoot him would be factual as it happens in a crowd in the film. So are you aware if that was made up just for the film? If so, that is a pretty significant addition to take creative licensing with, i feel.
Just rewatched the scene, and forgot, it actually happens in a courtroom! So this must be fiction, if someone tried to shoot Hoffa in the middle of a court proceeding, that would have been huge news.
So that sort of bugs me, again, that is a huge scene to add, if it never happened, creative licensing or not.
Still, Ray Ramano as his lawyer, he's great to watch. I never really watched that tv show he had, but love him in this film!
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Still, Ray Ramano as his lawyer, he's great to watch. I never really watched that tv show he had, but love him in this film!
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Still, Ray Ramano as his lawyer, he's great to watch. I never really watched that tv show he had, but love him in this film!
Can't forget Ray. He was the best part of the film. Scorsese had never heard of him when he cast Ray for Vinyl.
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Speaking of the movie "Kill the Irishman,'' Ronald Carabbia, the guy who killed Danny Greene, is still alive and lives in my town in Florida. I am a newspaper reporter and wrote a column about it.
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Earlier I read a comment from someone who was wondering how historically accurate this film is. For anyone who is interested in this I would recommend checking out the latest episode of the podcast Original Gangsters.
I'm midway through it and it provides some great insight into the actual people portrayed in the film.
I was wondering based on a single scene, where a would be assassin tries to shoot Jimmy Hoffa and his gun misfires. It seems pretty significant, and though I admit I am not all that knowledgeable about Jimmy Hoffa, I still felt that is something I would have read about at some point.
So I did a google search on 3 or so sites, about his life, and saw no mention of this failed attempt to kill him. So that makes me question whether it was just made up for dramatic effect (and if so, that brings my rating of the movie down another notch, as my feelings are, if the story is interesting enough, no meed to make up shit).
So I still don't know if it occurred or not, but if not, then i have to wonder how much else of the movie is BS.
Of course there is a lot of creative license. The movie depicts specific things relating to Jimmy Hoffa's demise and disappearance (no spoilers!), and it is logical. But, no one really knows what actually happened, so that is obviously BS. I don't care, I loved every minute of the movie...and that's a LOT of minutes!
Well I realize nobody knows for sure what happened to him in the end... but the failed attempt to shoot him would be factual as it happens in a crowd in the film. So are you aware if that was made up just for the film? If so, that is a pretty significant addition to take creative licensing with, i feel.
Just rewatched the scene, and forgot, it actually happens in a courtroom! So this must be fiction, if someone tried to shoot Hoffa in the middle of a court proceeding, that would have been huge news.
So that sort of bugs me, again, that is a huge scene to add, if it never happened, creative licensing or not.
Still, Ray Ramano as his lawyer, he's great to watch. I never really watched that tv show he had, but love him in this film!
This seems to lend creadence to the assassination attempt(Part 2)
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Chester
Speaking of the movie "Kill the Irishman,'' Ronald Carabbia, the guy who killed Danny Greene, is still alive and lives in my town in Florida. I am a newspaper reporter and wrote a column about it.
[www.heraldtribune.com]
Great column Chester , very interesting these guys ending up in the same area. I can’t tell people enough about Kill the Irishman. From Documentaries to pieces I’ve read about Danny Green the movie was pretty dam accurate.
The news footage when they interviewed him after the bombing of his house is a classic.