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Re: Don Was is/was a "mood enhancer"...
Date: November 28, 2019 15:13

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He's safe and they need safe and comfortable. They're far too old for anything else.

They weren't old in 93/94 during the making of VL. The flood of boot tapes from these sessions show the final choice of songs to be worked on and put on VL was - to say the least - questionable as some outtakes/demos had a true potential.

Who's to blame for this string of bad choices? Was? Was and Keef?

And in 93/94 Was put the foot down on the ethnic and groovy stuff. So I guess we can say "safe" in terms of him wanting the first album he produced for them to sound "classic Stones". Mick disagreed.

Re: Don Was is/was a "mood enhancer"...
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 28, 2019 16:36

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Rocky Dijon
He's safe and they need safe and comfortable. They're far too old for anything else.

They weren't old in 93/94 during the making of VL. The flood of boot tapes from these sessions show the final choice of songs to be worked on and put on VL was - to say the least - questionable as some outtakes/demos had a true potential.

Who's to blame for this string of bad choices? Was? Was and Keef?

And in 93/94 Was put the foot down on the ethnic and groovy stuff. So I guess we can say "safe" in terms of him wanting the first album he produced for them to sound "classic Stones". Mick disagreed.

Just as I hear some really good tunes, overall, from the SOME GIRLS and EMOTIONAL RESCUE sessions that didn't make either album yet alone TATTOO YOU, the same goes with those songs from the VOODOO sessions - some odd (bad) choices were made about what got finished and released.

There is no way that is 100% Don Was since Mick has had his hand in what makes an album, at times heavily, in the past (seemingly getting bullified with BLACK AND BLUE), which explains things like why DIRTY WORK has the crap songs on it and why STEEL WHEELS has Rock And A Hard Place, Continental Drift (the Stones part) etc.

Re: Don Was is/was a "mood enhancer"...
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 28, 2019 16:41

Because if Don Was did put his foot down, perhaps Mick didn't work on the songs with good results.

Maybe Was felt that they shouldn't release something that didn't sound bothered with. Mick has a way of saying things - he's quite clear about how he could go OHHHH OHHHHH OHHHHH on every song and not bother anymore or whatever it was he said back in 1980 or so.

VOODOO has some strange choices on it compared to what was left off, musically: they screwed up. Is Was to blame for that? Well sure - partially. Perhaps he was compliant instead of challenging, which may explain why Was didn't solely produce BRIDGES - good or bad, Mick was releasing what he wanted on that one.

So... see, that's not always a good thing.

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