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bmuseed
the part where Joel Slevin got it Wrong... Joel interviewed me and I told him if he could wait a month, my book, Out of Our Heads, would be out and I could tell him the part of the story re Gimme Shelter that only I knew..(and the Maysles)..Joel couldn't wait so here is where it went wrong for him on the truth, but made a good story.



the use of the word 'haughty' referring to Mick saying he was thinking of the movie..THERE WAS NO MOVIE BEING CONSIDERED. Selvin had to make up the movie part --he had no idea..First: Mick did not meet the Maysles..I did and here is that part of the story
The Stones wanted to film at least two of their songs and had decided they should be shot at the 1969 Madison Square Garden shows where they were going to record a live album. They wanted me to close the deal for a director and cameraman. They had a couple of suggestions for me, and I went about contacting them while on the road.
First on the list was Leacock-Pennebaker (Richard Leacock and D.A. Pennebaker), who had done Bob Dylan’s Don’t Look Back. Next on the list was Robert Downey Sr., who’d just completed Putney Swope, a dark satire about a token black man on the executive board of an advertising firm who is accidentally put in command. For a top cameraman, they asked me to check with Haskell Wexler, director of photography for Medium Cool, which was about a TV news cameraman who becomes personally involved in the violence that erupts around the 1968 Democratic National Convention. Wexler also shot The Thomas Crown Affair. However, it turned out that each of them had projects they were already working on, so they wouldn’t be able to help us, especially at such short notice. Haskell suggested I contact the Maysles brothers. I called them; they were available, and we scheduled a meeting on November 25 at the Plaza Hotel.
The Maysles suggested they go to the Baltimore concert and get a feel for the Stones’ performance to come up with ideas on how to capture the songs on film. The next morning, they called me at the Plaza and came back with a suggestion to do four songs that they would film during the three Madison Square Garden shows. David pitched the idea for four songs since he thought we might have a chance of turning that footage into a half-hour TV special. They would give us a thirty-minute rough cut of the show, he said, and it would not be longer than forty-five minutes. and here's the proof part..


and finally... when reading this remember there was no film deal...Filmways asked for the rights to any film,(no thought of a commercial film at this time) if we made one..and I don't know who this Murray guy I supposedly negotiated with that I was apoplectic about and oh yeah... Jagger was in Muscle Shoals and I didn't speak to any of the Stones while they were there..

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There are 2 Peters given credit as camera operators in Gimme Shelter
Pete Adair
Peter Smokler

Peter Pilafin is given credit for sound

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wonderboy
As a teen-age Gen X'er in the '70s, reading about Altamont, I never got the 'end of the innocence thing.' Did grown people really believe that? This was 1969 -- the boomers had already gone through assassinations and war and riots. But somehow a guy getting stabbed at a concert ruined the vibe?
But from the footage I've heard, it was a great show.

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deardoctortake1
There are 2 Peters given credit as camera operators in Gimme Shelter
Pete Adair
Peter Smokler

Peter Pilafin is given credit for sound

You r correct but he worked closely with the film crew. I didn't say he was a camera operator. I posted this on IORR three weeks after I met him in 2008:

Of course, the discussion turned to the Stones. Peter told us he was in charge of the sound for the Gimme Shelter film.

Mostly, our discussion centered on Altamont. He said he was on top of a 60 foot trailer behind the stage at Altamont along with three camera men whom he was directing.

One of these three filmed the murder, but they did not know it at the time, he said, as it was just chaos in front of the stage. Not until they viewed the film later on did they see what they had captured.

He basically blamed the Angels for the craziness of the day. I asked him if it was true that the Stones played a great set in spite of it all. He said yes, "they were on."
[end 2008 comments]

Most of my statements in my post 3 above this one are correct. Glad to see at least not all of my memory is gone! Forgot a few details, however.


plexi

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There's a new DVD: 'Days Of Rage: Road To Altamont' - [www.jpc.de] - [www.Amazon.com] - (17-Jan-2020).

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Cristiano Radtke

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There's a new DVD: 'Days Of Rage: Road To Altamont' - [www.jpc.de] - [www.Amazon.com] - (17-Jan-2020).

Days of Rage: The Rolling Stones' Road to Altamont - trailer

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timbernardis

Have u watched the film and if so, what are your thoughts about it?

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bmuseed

I'm in that clip... and never gave permission..

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jbwelda
There was a photo of the likely taper with microphone in hand about 5 people back from the stage, it was posted in another thread

jb

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jbwelda
Your name seems to be used very liberally and prominently. I think I would have my lawyers look into it if it is being done without your permission.

jb