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The Rock And Roll Hall of Lame ……..
We sure gotta few contenders …..
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Personally I like that the HOF includes all these different types of popular artists. To me rockn roll is a state of mind. And to go on about how a Rap artist, or Madonna, or Donna Summer aren't allowed to be included goes against the freedom of rockn roll..
It gives more power to the suits and radio programmers who try to tell us which music classifies as what, or falls into which category.
I do agree with that. That's not to say that the choices of the HoF, especially the order in which they make them, isn't a bit strange to say the least.
Have to disagree. Other people SHOULD be included, but its people that I think have roots in rock and roll. Its people rock and roll artists loved and modeled themselves after. Pop is a relative term. Roy Orbison wasn't really rock, he was pop. But he of course belongs in a rock and roll hall of fame, for a number of reasons. A lot of those singing groups and blues guys obviously belong because they were massive influences on rock musicians. Yes, rock is a state of mind, but a rock and roll hall of fame is a very specific thing. They can change what they think now, but it was designed with a very specific thing in mind. Madonna should not be in a rock and roll hall of fame. Thats no slight on her as an artist or as a person, but NO ONE would categorize her as rock and no one in rock cites her as an influence. The hall was not created as a place for Madonna over say The Misfits. Thats not harboring some grudge against anyone, I think thats just the truth. The Misfits are someone that probably wouldn't get honored anywhere other than here, and are cited as a massive influence to so many bands. There are different genres in the Hall: pop, alternative, punk, etc. It doesn't have to be inclusive to genre, many people fit the bill. But also many people don't, and I believe that that includes rap and many other just clear pop singers with no relation to rock. All those people should be in a MUSIC hall Of fame, which is what the hall is, but they are too afraid to say it. And also because it being a ROCK AND ROLL Hall Of Fame is cooler. Someone like Janet Jackson I think likes being able to permeate a Rock Hall Of Fame instead of a music Hall Of Fame. But its not truly representative of their music and they know it. Its not difficult to figure out who should be in and who shouldn't. Its trickier once you get to actual talent amongst rock bands, but they turned it into a music hall of fame and are now too chickenshit (to steal from Mike Love) to just outright call it that.
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I'll put the Lemmy/Campbell/Dee (or Lemmy/Campbell/Wurzel/Dee) lineup up against the "classic" Lemmy/Eddie/Philthy lineup any day.
They released so many killer albums between 1993 and 2015 (Bastards, Sacrifice, Overnight Sensation, We Are Motorhead, Hammered, Inferno, Kiss of Death, Motorizer, Aftershock) that get little to no recognition. All anyone wants to hear is Ace of Spades and Overkill.
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keefriff99
I'll put the Lemmy/Campbell/Dee (or Lemmy/Campbell/Wurzel/Dee) lineup up against the "classic" Lemmy/Eddie/Philthy lineup any day.
They released so many killer albums between 1993 and 2015 (Bastards, Sacrifice, Overnight Sensation, We Are Motorhead, Hammered, Inferno, Kiss of Death, Motorizer, Aftershock) that get little to no recognition. All anyone wants to hear is Ace of Spades and Overkill.
I’m with you on that, all this albums stand up against the classics. Sacrifice, 1916, bastards, overnight sensation etc, all have great tunes on them. It’s a shame they’re not in. They spent more Time in and released more material with Motörhead than the “classic” lineup.
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Personally I like that the HOF includes all these different types of popular artists. To me rockn roll is a state of mind. And to go on about how a Rap artist, or Madonna, or Donna Summer aren't allowed to be included goes against the freedom of rockn roll..
It gives more power to the suits and radio programmers who try to tell us which music classifies as what, or falls into which category.
I do agree with that. That's not to say that the choices of the HoF, especially the order in which they make them, isn't a bit strange to say the least.
Have to disagree. Other people SHOULD be included, but its people that I think have roots in rock and roll. Its people rock and roll artists loved and modeled themselves after. Pop is a relative term. Roy Orbison wasn't really rock, he was pop. But he of course belongs in a rock and roll hall of fame, for a number of reasons. A lot of those singing groups and blues guys obviously belong because they were massive influences on rock musicians. Yes, rock is a state of mind, but a rock and roll hall of fame is a very specific thing. They can change what they think now, but it was designed with a very specific thing in mind. Madonna should not be in a rock and roll hall of fame. Thats no slight on her as an artist or as a person, but NO ONE would categorize her as rock and no one in rock cites her as an influence. The hall was not created as a place for Madonna over say The Misfits. Thats not harboring some grudge against anyone, I think thats just the truth. The Misfits are someone that probably wouldn't get honored anywhere other than here, and are cited as a massive influence to so many bands. There are different genres in the Hall: pop, alternative, punk, etc. It doesn't have to be inclusive to genre, many people fit the bill. But also many people don't, and I believe that that includes rap and many other just clear pop singers with no relation to rock. All those people should be in a MUSIC hall Of fame, which is what the hall is, but they are too afraid to say it. And also because it being a ROCK AND ROLL Hall Of Fame is cooler. Someone like Janet Jackson I think likes being able to permeate a Rock Hall Of Fame instead of a music Hall Of Fame. But its not truly representative of their music and they know it. Its not difficult to figure out who should be in and who shouldn't. Its trickier once you get to actual talent amongst rock bands, but they turned it into a music hall of fame and are now too chickenshit (to steal from Mike Love) to just outright call it that.
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Doobies,YES!
Todd Rundgren? Not a chance.
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wonderboy
It's a pop music hall of fame. Rock and roll is a small sliver of pop music.
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tatters
And Jethro Tull (eligible since 1993) has still never even been nominated.
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keefriff99
I'm just looking for consistency here.
It seems some bands are gifted with several lineups worth of members inducted, while others are told "we're only inducting the 'classic' lineup of your band, so take it or leave it."
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keefriff99
Looks like Phil Campbell and Mikkey Dee were added to the Motorhead ballot! Excellent news.
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It's a pop music hall of fame. Rock and roll is a small sliver of pop music.
Then they really should officially change the title of it to the Pop Music Hall of Fame.
By saying "Rock and Roll" - which is a specific genre of music and not all- encompassing as some believe, they sort of ruined their credibility as far as most are concerned.
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And Jethro Tull (eligible since 1993) has still never even been nominated.
For the life of me I do not understand why this band has not been nominated and inducted. Martin Barre's guitar playing by itself should have gotten them in. Countless numbers of genius level songs in their catalog of work.
Oh well, I just listen to what I like that doesn't mean anyone has to agree with it.
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I'm no Tull fan (but I know someone who is), but if this band shouldn't be inducted then I wouldn't know what band should. And if you don't know the band, just google it up and you see why.
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keefriff99
I'll put the Lemmy/Campbell/Dee (or Lemmy/Campbell/Wurzel/Dee) lineup up against the "classic" Lemmy/Eddie/Philthy lineup any day.
They released so many killer albums between 1993 and 2015 (Bastards, Sacrifice, Overnight Sensation, We Are Motorhead, Hammered, Inferno, Kiss of Death, Motorizer, Aftershock) that get little to no recognition. All anyone wants to hear is Ace of Spades and Overkill.
I’m with you on that, all this albums stand up against the classics. Sacrifice, 1916, bastards, overnight sensation etc, all have great tunes on them. It’s a shame they’re not in. They spent more Time in and released more material with Motörhead than the “classic” lineup.
I didn't follow Motorhead after the mid 80s. Hey Paddy, I saw them in 1982 at the Kerrisdale Arena w/Krokus and Fist. Got autographs at Kellys record store downtown before the show. It was the first show with Brian Robertson, who replaced Fast Eddie a couple weeks prior although no one knew. That would be the last concert ever at Kerrisdale, which I read on the Georgia Straight website. Motorhead played there in 81 when they opened for Ozzy on the Blizzard tour.
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keefriff99
Looks like Phil Campbell and Mikkey Dee were added to the Motorhead ballot! Excellent news.
yes. wurzel should be in too though