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I don't quite agree Rocky re. STB reference. But since the thought comes from you I had to ponder it a while.
Kind of you, but my opinions on a good day are worth as much as anyone else's. I can't hear "Undercover of the Night" without thinking how Ronnie is playing part of "Sympathy for the Devil." Different songs strike people differently.
As for GITD, the ones I like quite a bit are Dancing in the Starlight, Hideaway, Lucky Day, Too Far Gone, and Blue. I actively dislike Visions of Paradise, Joy (apart from the guitar), and God Gave Me Everything (way too much Lenny Kravitz noise for me). I can take or leave Don't Call Me Up, Goddess in the Doorway, Everybody Getting High, Gun, Brand New Set of Rules, and If Things Could Be Different. I wish What's Left of Me had been released with Mick's vocals and I wish there was a version of Nothing But the Wheel with just Mick singing. Those are actually my favorites of Mick in 2001. None of them can touch You Win Again by Keith, though. Still a Fool by Keith from the same period is also very good. I would have loved an album of minimalist rootsy music from Keith with George on drums and Fraboni producing. A pity it never materialized. Studio L had something special going.
Hah! That's what I always wished for too - and what would be a perfect candidate for my "Save A Bigger Bang" dreamworld project from the other thread.
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Rocky Dijon
I'm never comfortable blaming collaborators. I've picked on Matt Clifford mercilessly through the years, but some of his work with the Stones or Mick solo is terrific (STEEL WHEELS and Angel in My Heart, the live arrangement of Play with Fire, Hideaway, Rain Fall Down). Don Was' productions are so different from one another that I can't say he's the wrong producer. I would have liked to have heard him tackle STEEL WHEELS to be honest. I'm also aware that there are times he is anything but a "yes man" and has pissed off either Mick or Keith, but not enough to cut ties. The same with Chuck. I like some of Mick's work with Dave Stewart quite a bit (Throwaway, Kow Tow, Old Habits, Blind Leading the Blind, Warring People), but I have no sense if that is because of Dave or in spite of him. I tend to think it's unfair to say in spite of him.
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Rocky Dijon
What's interesting is that these appear to be vinyl reissues only. The albums remain out of print on CD apart from remaining catalog editions from 1993!
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GasLightStreet
Maybe because hardly anyone bought them? Probably would be a waste of time to reissue them on CD.
The vinyl comeback is hilarious, especially considering the ridiculous prices of a lot of the releases.
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Rocky Dijon
What's interesting is that these appear to be vinyl reissues only. The albums remain out of print on CD apart from remaining catalog editions from 1993!
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Rocky Dijon
Those were streaming only. They are an improvement, but there's been no CD remaster ever. The 1993 Atlantic CDs were the same dreadful CBS editions with new labels slapped on.
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DandelionPowderman
I'm sure you noticed the different (way softer) drum sound?
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GasLightStreet
The vinyl come back is hilarious, especially considering the ridiculous prices of a lot of the releases.
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DandelionPowderman
I'm sure you noticed the different (way softer) drum sound?
But wasn't that apparent on the MFSL CD from way back then already? Because that's the version I listened to through all these years - as I considered it having a lot "warmer" or more "natural" sound in general (not only Steve's a bit unnerving drum sound) compared to the Virgin original.
But maybe something escaped my old ears, maybe I should listen and compare again.
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Spud
To my ears there's a loss of feel and atmosphere with the TIC remaster.
The original release just sounds nore "human".
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DandelionPowderman
I'm sure you noticed the different (way softer) drum sound?
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Rocky Dijon
Part of what I miss on CROSSEYED HEART is the power behind Steve's beat. Together with Keith's guitar work, it was such a primal sound that made Keith's first two albums sound so raw and unfinished. Only "Slave" and "Little T & A" in the Stones' catalog had a similar feel.
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GasLightStreet
The vinyl come back is hilarious, especially considering the ridiculous prices of a lot of the releases.
People are buying them and enjoying them......and It doesn't really matter why.
So What other justification does it need ?
[...and the cost of a typical new vinyl album today isn't too bad ...
...it's just these fancy deluxe packages that cost silly money.
I do get annoyed when they don't give you the option of just buying the remastered original LP, with no extra candy and at a normal price.]
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GasLightStreet
What gets me is that people tend to automatically assume that it's better because it's on vinyl.
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GivenToFly15
Totally pissed at Universal: the artwork for Wandering Spirit is not even complete compared to the original LP. What a rip-off.
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GasLightStreet
What gets me is that people tend to automatically assume that it's better because it's on vinyl.
I automatically assume it's better because of the artwork. You can't get the poster in any CD edition of LIB.
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GivenToFly15
Totally pissed at Universal: the artwork for Wandering Spirit is not even complete compared to the original LP. What a rip-off.
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GivenToFly15
Totally pissed at Universal: the artwork for Wandering Spirit is not even complete compared to the original LP. What a rip-off.
Given that Mick is supposed to be such a control freaknhow does
he allow this to happen?