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Redhotcarpet
Ghs is the mature album and the last ”real” album with real songs from the real era when they still mattered. Of course Winter probably beats everything on iorr. Hide your love is a real song used as filler while S&C is a joke. On the other hand CYHTM is a bit too ”real” - it sounds forced.
I still love iorr more for some reason. I wonder if the sleazy iorr actually had a bigger impact on bands like G&R (aside from Hanoi Rocks).
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Redhotcarpet
Ghs is the mature album and the last ”real” album with real songs from the real era when they still mattered. Of course Winter probably beats everything on iorr. Hide your love is a real song used as filler while S&C is a joke. On the other hand CYHTM is a bit too ”real” - it sounds forced.
I still love iorr more for some reason. I wonder if the sleazy iorr actually had a bigger impact on bands like G&R (aside from Hanoi Rocks).
GHS is Michael Monroe's favourite Stones album
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Redhotcarpet
Ghs is the mature album and the last ”real” album with real songs from the real era when they still mattered.
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Erik_Snow
I'm glad they didn't put the cheesy Drift Away and Through The Lonely Nights on IORR, but there's still a few cuts on the album where they sound like a parody of themselves; IYCRM, Till The Next Goodbye, Short and Curlies and Ain't Too Proud To Beg.
I prefer GHS over IORR for sure. Only Mr D and Heartbreaker are somewhat weak, but live versions are terrific. And the last 3 cuts on GHS are the higlights, I'd say
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Redhotcarpet
Ghs is the mature album and the last ”real” album with real songs from the real era when they still mattered.
Nailed it.
Of course it suffers by comparison with the Big Four LPs that preceded it, but in retrospect GHS is a really solid album. No filler to speak of, and the songs are actually about something.
IORR is the point where they seem to have decided that having achieved what they set out to do in their chosen idiom, there was nowhere to go but to become a sort of good time party band.
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floodonthepage
My "It's Only Goats Head Roll" mix would be - (keeping with the 10 tracks)
If You Can't Rock Me
It's Only Rock n Roll
100 Years Ago
Luxury
Coming Down Again
Star Star
Time Waits For No One
Hide Your Love
Winter
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Man, I might go home and burn this disc tonight!
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nick1970
Dancing with Mr d.. is just not very good..
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Ket
GHS is not a great record but I give the band credit for making an honest attempt to change the direction from their last 4 LP'S. It was flawed but did have a few great tracks.
IORR simply did not have any great songs, and some were just downright awful
So GHS wins but tbh black and blue is better than either of them
Except for the sobering fact that Goats Head went RIAA certified 3X platinum, while Black And Blue sold about 2 million less copies. How are we measuring better?
Black And Blue, while more interesting than most of their 80’s catalog, is the epitome of “we have to release an album to stay relevant”.
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retired_dog
I couldn't combine both albums into a single album because they simply have too many tracks I really love and absolutely no duds to speal of.
Instead combining those into a double album with a different track order, adding Drift Away, Through The Lonely Nights and Criss Cross Mind somewhere would be a much more interesting (and fulfilling!) task...
Keeping in mind that Tops and Waiting On A Friend are also from this era emphasizes its greatness even more imho. Also the fact that they gave I Can Feel The Fire away to Ronnie because they didn't need it/couldn't use it...
Let's face it, 1973/1974 and the Some Girls sessions were the last true creative outburts of the Stones. After that, it became increasingly repetetive...
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Ket
GHS is not a great record but I give the band credit for making an honest attempt to change the direction from their last 4 LP'S. It was flawed but did have a few great tracks.
IORR simply did not have any great songs, and some were just downright awful
So GHS wins but tbh black and blue is better than either of them
Except for the sobering fact that Goats Head went RIAA certified 3X platinum, while Black And Blue sold about 2 million less copies. How are we measuring better?
Black And Blue, while more interesting than most of their 80’s catalog, is the epitome of “we have to release an album to stay relevant”.
What pissed me off most about Black and Blue was its brevity. 8 tracks. It seemed a rip off. It was the golden age of vinyl and that's where their money came from. They seemed to be giving us less for our hard earned coin.