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GHS had the superior producer -- Jimmy Miller.
When listening to IORR I sometimes get the impression that the novice producers were learning on the job. Sometimes the Glimmer Twins didn't glimmer.
Off topic: Somebody needs to do a thorough appreciation of what Jimmy Miller meant to the Rolling Stones. It's no coincidence that the Rolling Stones' golden age coincided with Miller's tenure.
According to Keith Miller was mostly carving swastikas on the mixing desk by GHS.
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GHS had the superior producer -- Jimmy Miller.
When listening to IORR I sometimes get the impression that the novice producers were learning on the job. Sometimes the Glimmer Twins didn't glimmer.
Off topic: Somebody needs to do a thorough appreciation of what Jimmy Miller meant to the Rolling Stones. It's no coincidence that the Rolling Stones' golden age coincided with Miller's tenure.
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GHS had the superior producer -- Jimmy Miller.
When listening to IORR I sometimes get the impression that the novice producers were learning on the job. Sometimes the Glimmer Twins didn't glimmer.
Off topic: Somebody needs to do a thorough appreciation of what Jimmy Miller meant to the Rolling Stones. It's no coincidence that the Rolling Stones' golden age coincided with Miller's tenure.
According to Keith Miller was mostly carving swastikas on the mixing desk by GHS.
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GHS had the superior producer -- Jimmy Miller.
When listening to IORR I sometimes get the impression that the novice producers were learning on the job. Sometimes the Glimmer Twins didn't glimmer.
Off topic: Somebody needs to do a thorough appreciation of what Jimmy Miller meant to the Rolling Stones. It's no coincidence that the Rolling Stones' golden age coincided with Miller's tenure.
According to Keith Miller was mostly carving swastikas on the mixing desk by GHS.
Keith's stories are unreliable, though. By all accounts Miller was pretty assertive as a producer. Mick and Keith could have simply decided that they wanted absolute creative control.
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
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Yes I know but songwriting and arranging? Compared to the preceding records?
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
He plays guitar (with exception to 100 Years Ago, which he seems to play bass on) on every song so...
No.
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
Yet he gets songwriting credit on everything. Let’s be honest, Richards being absent is a bigger deal than Taylor or Wyman being absent.
Taylor missed the first IORR sessions due to an “illness” (I suspect maybe some party favors on the ‘73 tour), otherwise he probably would have had bits on a few more songs.
Who knows why Richards was absent.
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
Yet he gets songwriting credit on everything. Let’s be honest, Richards being absent is a bigger deal than Taylor or Wyman being absent.
Taylor missed the first IORR sessions due to an “illness” (I suspect maybe some party favors on the ‘73 tour), otherwise he probably would have had bits on a few more songs.
Who knows why Richards was absent.
As you know well, Mick and Keith have a songwriting partnership. Hence Mick gets credit on Keith-songs and vice versa. Taylor never wrote songs from scratch for the Stones, as far as I know.
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
Yet he gets songwriting credit on everything. Let’s be honest, Richards being absent is a bigger deal than Taylor or Wyman being absent.
Taylor missed the first IORR sessions due to an “illness” (I suspect maybe some party favors on the ‘73 tour), otherwise he probably would have had bits on a few more songs.
Who knows why Richards was absent.
As you know well, Mick and Keith have a songwriting partnership. Hence Mick gets credit on Keith-songs and vice versa. Taylor never wrote songs from scratch for the Stones, as far as I know.
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
Yet he gets songwriting credit on everything. Let’s be honest, Richards being absent is a bigger deal than Taylor or Wyman being absent.
Taylor missed the first IORR sessions due to an “illness” (I suspect maybe some party favors on the ‘73 tour), otherwise he probably would have had bits on a few more songs.
Who knows why Richards was absent.
As you know well, Mick and Keith have a songwriting partnership. Hence Mick gets credit on Keith-songs and vice versa. Taylor never wrote songs from scratch for the Stones, as far as I know.
Are we saying Keith was absent in a non-literal sense? He plays on 9 of the 10 songs on GHS. "Winter" being the only song where he's absent. I always thought he wasn't on "Hide Your Love" but according to "timeisonourside" he plays bass.
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
Yet he gets songwriting credit on everything. Let’s be honest, Richards being absent is a bigger deal than Taylor or Wyman being absent.
Taylor missed the first IORR sessions due to an “illness” (I suspect maybe some party favors on the ‘73 tour), otherwise he probably would have had bits on a few more songs.
Who knows why Richards was absent.
As you know well, Mick and Keith have a songwriting partnership. Hence Mick gets credit on Keith-songs and vice versa. Taylor never wrote songs from scratch for the Stones, as far as I know.
Are we saying Keith was absent in a non-literal sense? He plays on 9 of the 10 songs on GHS. "Winter" being the only song where he's absent. I always thought he wasn't on "Hide Your Love" but according to "timeisonourside" he plays bass.
I'm not saying he was absent. I'm fighting windmills to say he wasn't
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
Yet he gets songwriting credit on everything. Let’s be honest, Richards being absent is a bigger deal than Taylor or Wyman being absent.
Taylor missed the first IORR sessions due to an “illness” (I suspect maybe some party favors on the ‘73 tour), otherwise he probably would have had bits on a few more songs.
Who knows why Richards was absent.
As you know well, Mick and Keith have a songwriting partnership. Hence Mick gets credit on Keith-songs and vice versa. Taylor never wrote songs from scratch for the Stones, as far as I know.
Are we saying Keith was absent in a non-literal sense? He plays on 9 of the 10 songs on GHS. "Winter" being the only song where he's absent. I always thought he wasn't on "Hide Your Love" but according to "timeisonourside" he plays bass.
I'm not saying he was absent. I'm fighting windmills to say he wasn't
Ohhh, I see!! I'd say Keith was absent on GHS in the sense this was the first album after the "Golden Age" where his guitar work doesn't stand out like previous albums. "Mr. D" has a cool riff, but it's really only on "Star Star" where his guitar shouts a classic Keith riff.
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
Yet he gets songwriting credit on everything. Let’s be honest, Richards being absent is a bigger deal than Taylor or Wyman being absent.
Taylor missed the first IORR sessions due to an “illness” (I suspect maybe some party favors on the ‘73 tour), otherwise he probably would have had bits on a few more songs.
Who knows why Richards was absent.
As you know well, Mick and Keith have a songwriting partnership. Hence Mick gets credit on Keith-songs and vice versa. Taylor never wrote songs from scratch for the Stones, as far as I know.
Yeah, I understand the partnership and why it could be considered frustrating to a new band member, especially one who worked with the very considerate John Mayall.
Perhaps the only song from scratch Taylor wrote was the riff to “Ventilator Blues”, hence the credit. It appears Taylor felt merely writing the riff wasn’t as an important of a contribution as his playing on “Sway” and “Moonlight Mike”, for instance.
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Keith is pretty absent on GHS I believe?
Absent? He's just as absent as Taylor was for IORR, MIA on three tracks
Yet he gets songwriting credit on everything. Let’s be honest, Richards being absent is a bigger deal than Taylor or Wyman being absent.
Taylor missed the first IORR sessions due to an “illness” (I suspect maybe some party favors on the ‘73 tour), otherwise he probably would have had bits on a few more songs.
Who knows why Richards was absent.
As you know well, Mick and Keith have a songwriting partnership. Hence Mick gets credit on Keith-songs and vice versa. Taylor never wrote songs from scratch for the Stones, as far as I know.
Yeah, I understand the partnership and why it could be considered frustrating to a new band member, especially one who worked with the very considerate John Mayall.
Perhaps the only song from scratch Taylor wrote was the riff to “Ventilator Blues”, hence the credit. It appears Taylor felt merely writing the riff wasn’t as an important of a contribution as his playing on “Sway” and “Moonlight Mike”, for instance.
I thought it was already agreed that Taylor had nothing to do with the writing of Ventilator Blues.