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podiumboy
Possible US leg, taking into account cities that got shows in 2019, and to a lesser extent, 2015.
Minneapolis- US Bank Stadium
St. Louis
Cleveland or Cincinnati
Detroit
NYC- 1 show
Baltimore
Charlotte
Atlanta
Texas (Austin or Dallas)
San Diego
Las Vegas
LA - new Stadium
Salt Lake City
Vancouver
Edmonton
Winnipeg
Montreal
(I know Canadian shows generate less money, typically, but these are cities they haven't hit in a long time).
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bv
I did some planning for my tour travels for the rumoured tour of Asia & Pacific 2020. My travels would be the same as the Stones would need to do, going to every show. In short, it would be some 45,000 miles of flying, 5 long flights lasting for 8-14 hours non-stop, total of 85 hours or so in the air to do some 14 shows. I am prepared to do that, and I am sure the Stones were prepared to do it, but anyone who has been flying 12-14 hours non-stop flights do know that it is not really fun, not on tourist class, not even on first class.
During the US Tour 2019 they ended up with too much zig-zag from the US South East and up to the North East, total of three times up and down, typically flights of six flights of 3-5 hours each, the rest was just 1-2 hours. The original schedule, i.e. a normal North America schedule, would not really have that many long distance flights.
Even if the crowd capacity and economy of a tour is the most important part, once decided on a certain market, I am sure that extra long travels and complex logistics are important key factors to avoid. They were pretty worn out when they did the SarsStock show, flying to Toronto for a week, doing one show, in the middle of the European tour 2003, and the more travel, the more rest time they need, and the more cost they will add to the tour budget.
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Explain to me one thing. Why haven’t they done MSG since 2006? It’s some sort of promotor debacle iirc. Wasn’t it Live Nation having exclusive rights to concerts in MSG, and the Stones using AEG?
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1985jayer
if the usa gets another tour. i would expect them to play Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor, it holds around 106,000 and could easily be the biggest show next tour. remember that some college stadiums are much larger then pro football ones. fingers crossed for more shows next year....
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I did some planning for my tour travels for the rumoured tour of Asia & Pacific 2020. My travels would be the same as the Stones would need to do, going to every show. In short, it would be some 45,000 miles of flying, 5 long flights lasting for 8-14 hours non-stop, total of 85 hours or so in the air to do some 14 shows. I am prepared to do that, and I am sure the Stones were prepared to do it, but anyone who has been flying 12-14 hours non-stop flights do know that it is not really fun, not on tourist class, not even on first class.
During the US Tour 2019 they ended up with too much zig-zag from the US South East and up to the North East, total of three times up and down, typically flights of six flights of 3-5 hours each, the rest was just 1-2 hours. The original schedule, i.e. a normal North America schedule, would not really have that many long distance flights.
Even if the crowd capacity and economy of a tour is the most important part, once decided on a certain market, I am sure that extra long travels and complex logistics are important key factors to avoid. They were pretty worn out when they did the SarsStock show, flying to Toronto for a week, doing one show, in the middle of the European tour 2003, and the more travel, the more rest time they need, and the more cost they will add to the tour budget.
I think that's the main reason. We may see the Stones playing live only in the US and Europe
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bv
The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
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bv
The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
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Kind Sir ... The stage is three years old now ... by that time it will be four years old (and 3 legs) old by then.
All that and a New Album + New Tour = New Stage design next year.
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New Album + New Tour = New Stage design next year
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bv
The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
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New Album + New Tour = New Stage design next year
Gotta hand it to you Ian for keeping the faith regarding a new album, but this is not fantasy land.
Even if there is a new album prior to any future shows, unless they tour arenas (highly doubtful) chances are almost ZERO there will be a new stage.
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bv
The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
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New Album + New Tour = New Stage design next year
Gotta hand it to you Ian for keeping the faith regarding a new album, but this is not fantasy land.
Even if there is a new album prior to any future shows, unless they tour arenas (highly doubtful) chances are almost ZERO there will be a new stage.
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bv
The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
I think even if they play arenas we'd see the same stage as they made it adaptable for them. Don't want to dig out the link, but it seems they were thinking long term and versatile for this stage.
A new album would be nice.. If another US/NA tour is accurate, would work nicely for press etc. to help fill what will likely be stadiums.
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New Album + New Tour = New Stage design next year
Gotta hand it to you Ian for keeping the faith regarding a new album, but this is not fantasy land.
Even if there is a new album prior to any future shows, unless they tour arenas (highly doubtful) chances are almost ZERO there will be a new stage.
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bv
The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
I think even if they play arenas we'd see the same stage as they made it adaptable for them. Don't want to dig out the link, but it seems they were thinking long term and versatile for this stage.
A new album would be nice.. If another US/NA tour is accurate, would work nicely for press etc. to help fill what will likely be stadiums.
This stage does not fit in a basketball/hockey Arena. They only used it in Football stadiums with a roof.
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1985jayer
if the usa gets another tour. i would expect them to play Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor, it holds around 106,000 and could easily be the biggest show next tour. remember that some college stadiums are much larger then pro football ones. fingers crossed for more shows next year....
Would there be enough demand though?
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The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
Kind Sir ... The stage is three years old now ... by that time it will be four years old (and 3 legs) old by then.
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The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
Kind Sir ... The stage is three years old now ... by that time it will be four years old (and 3 legs) old by then.
So what? The band is 57 years old next year. The US did not see the No Filter stage until 2019. The Rolling Stones are environmental friendly, relatively. No need to waste this stage and build a new one. It is the band on stage that matters, not the colours and decorations of the stage.
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New Album + New Tour = New Stage design next year
Gotta hand it to you Ian for keeping the faith regarding a new album, but this is not fantasy land.
Even if there is a new album prior to any future shows, unless they tour arenas (highly doubtful) chances are almost ZERO there will be a new stage.
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bv
The "No Filter" stage concept works perfectly. They took it to Europe in 2017 and 2018. Then they changed the B-stage act slightly, to do a two songs acoustic "no rain set" in the US Tour 2019. I will assume they keep the same stage for 2020. Never change a winning team.
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stargroover
Same market + same set list = Boring
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Same market + same set list = Boring
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Hairball
I think MisterDDDD is right though as there was a article stating a way to scale down the giant screens and reduce the stage size itself for arenas.
Similar to what Roger Waters did his The Wall tour, only he did it in reverse going from arenas to massive stadiums.
Will they decide to scale down and play arenas instead of massive stadiums? Would be great, but highly doubt it.