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If everybody parked their cars and changed from meat into vegetables for meals, then that would have 10,000 more times impact on the climate changes.

It is all about numbers. The Stones play in fromt of less than one million people this summer. At the same time, millions and millions eat meat and fly for all sorts of activites and so on and so on.

I would not worry so much about the tour really.

No it wouldnt. Humans cant change climates on earth. There is zero consensus about the reasons were once again in a slightly warmer (for some reason Sweden is not affected) cycle (not as warm as the last one btw).

Oh I see here we have one of those scepticals. Those who choose to believe in the part of science which is fitting in with their life pattern, then sort of ignore other parts of science.

So you trust science used to build bridges, high speed trains, mobile phones, elevators, skyscrapers, nuclear power plants, Internet, and clean water. Still, since it is not convenient for you, because you want to drive your car and have the steak and your other activities in life, you choose to ignore the scientific facts which thousands of scientists, meteorologists, physics and environmental researchers all are basing their models on now, including the United Nations.

May be Sweden is cold this week. That is not interesting. The point is that the climate is changing, and in a rapid way. Scientific evedent, undisputed.

Yes, I do know that some do still believe the earth is flat, and that Elvis is still alive, but sorry, the world is NOT flat, and Elvis is dead unfortunately.

Let us change the way of looking at it. There are may be five billion people on this planet, more or less. More than half of these people do never have a car or a steak or a holiday to the Carribean or wherever, they are struggling to find food and a safe place to sleep. When their food and homes are gone, due to floods and higher sea level, then they will start walking towards your safe home. Not in thousands, bujt in millions.

We are in this together.

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Let us change the way of looking at it. There are may be five billion people on this planet, more or less. More than half of these people do never have a car or a steak or a holiday to the Caribbean or wherever, they are struggling to find food and a safe place to sleep. When their food and homes are gone, due to floods and higher sea level, then they will start walking towards your safe home. Not in thousands, but in millions. We are in this together.

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The Stones tour is totally irrelevant to the climate problem. In fact any tours. It is what every person do every day on this planet that matters.

That is a syllogistic fallacy. If what every person do every day matters so does what the Rolling Stones do. Use deductive reasoning.

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I mean, why do anything? We're all going to die by 2030 anyways.

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I mean, why do anything? We're all going to die by 2030 anyways.

That is not serious talk really. What report do you base such facts on? Do you have an URL i.e. a web site address of a serious kind?

Way not to address the main points, but it was Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez [thehill.com]

And no, I was not being serious.

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climate change is small compared to the many people who have lost their lives in wars for well over 2 thousand years.

and wars will always continue, history wont change in that respect.

so maybe we need to take our heads out of the sand and look at what we can all do to prevent wars from starting.

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Are the scientists in stone66 now wrong?

Are not the world's largest populations the main culprits China and India?

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Are the scientists in stone66 now wrong?

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Racist also I see. 2/3rds of the pollution from there.

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Says you racist.

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Way to belittle someone who disagrees with you, BV. There are actually lots of scientists who do disagree with the way the "climate movement" is going today. Yes, climate changes. That's how it goes. And most of this "science" is actually just computer models done by scientists whose grants and funds are made possible by governments who are expecting an outcome - it's getting warmer.

I mean, why do anything? We're all going to die by 2030 anyways.

Just because someone is skeptical of climate "science," doesn't mean that they believe in a flat Earth or that we can't build bridges. But you do you, continue belittling the people who disagree with you.

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Way to belittle someone who disagrees with you, BV. There are actually lots of scientists who do disagree with the way the "climate movement" is going today. Yes, climate changes. That's how it goes. And most of this "science" is actually just computer models done by scientists whose grants and funds are made possible by governments who are expecting an outcome - it's getting warmer.

I mean, why do anything? We're all going to die by 2030 anyways.

Just because someone is skeptical of climate "science," doesn't mean that they believe in a flat Earth or that we can't build bridges. But you do you, continue belittling the people who disagree with you.

It's based on facts, not something we have opinions about.

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Way to belittle someone who disagrees with you, BV. There are actually lots of scientists who do disagree with the way the "climate movement" is going today. Yes, climate changes. That's how it goes. And most of this "science" is actually just computer models done by scientists whose grants and funds are made possible by governments who are expecting an outcome - it's getting warmer.

I mean, why do anything? We're all going to die by 2030 anyways.

Just because someone is skeptical of climate "science," doesn't mean that they believe in a flat Earth or that we can't build bridges. But you do you, continue belittling the people who disagree with you.

It's based on facts, not something we have opinions about.

You completely missed the point - fact.

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I grew up in the USA, late 60’s early 70’s.
We were taught at school to crawl under our desks during nuclear bomb warnings and told that we would all freeze to death very soon just like the dinosaurs did.

A decade or so ago, our kids were taught in school that global warming would roast us all and that it was our own fault.

Now we are being lectured on climate change and anticipating earth’s impending doom on IORR...

I have every right to be skeptical.
In fact, I have every right to doubt the validity of all of it.
So-called “climate experts” aren’t scientists they are paid shills of a government with an agenda. Science is a never-ending study, it doesn’t just conclude with your own convenient findings.
Follow the money people.

The reason I love this site so much is because IORR is NOT political and NOT bought and paid for by any corporation. This thread disappoints me greatly.

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I grew up in the USA, late 60’s early 70’s.
We were taught at school to crawl under our desks during nuclear bomb warnings and told that we would all freeze to death very soon just like the dinosaurs did.

A decade or so ago, our kids were taught in school that global warming would roast us all and that it was our own fault.

Now we are being lectured on climate change and anticipating earth’s impending doom on IORR...

I have every right to be skeptical.
In fact, I have every right to doubt the validity of all of it.
So-called “climate experts” aren’t scientists they are paid shills of a government with an agenda. Science is a never-ending study, it doesn’t just conclude with your own convenient findings.
Follow the money people.

The reason I love this site so much is because IORR is NOT political and NOT bought and paid for by any corporation. This thread disappoints me greatly.

While I find your post ridiculous and ignorant, I agree with your last paragraph.

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I knew this was going to end in politics. We have the right and the alt-right who denies climate change (out of self interest) and the green and left who sometimes becomes climate alarmists.
I think it's wise to keep your head cool and listen to the leading scientists. Which is easier said than done for laymen. It isn't easy to process all the information. Not even for scientists...

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I grew up in the USA, late 60’s early 70’s.
We were taught at school to crawl under our desks during nuclear bomb warnings and told that we would all freeze to death very soon just like the dinosaurs did.

A decade or so ago, our kids were taught in school that global warming would roast us all and that it was our own fault.

Now we are being lectured on climate change and anticipating earth’s impending doom on IORR...

I have every right to be skeptical.
In fact, I have every right to doubt the validity of all of it.
So-called “climate experts” aren’t scientists they are paid shills of a government with an agenda. Science is a never-ending study, it doesn’t just conclude with your own convenient findings.
Follow the money people.

The reason I love this site so much is because IORR is NOT political and NOT bought and paid for by any corporation. This thread disappoints me greatly.

While I find your post ridiculous and ignorant, I agree with your last paragraph.

I am not ignorant.

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Isn't playing the same songs over and over sort of recycling?