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Doxa
An interesting thread and issue.
To me YA-YA'S always been an essential album, a part of the golden run of albums from BEGGARS to EXILE, like an artistic transformation from the band and sound of BEGGARS BANQUET/LET IT BLEED to the band and sound of STICKY FINGERS/EXILE. A 'bridge album' from the 60's to 70's if you like.
But I do get the criticism of how the album sounds today - compared to the Big Four studio albums, which are eternally wonderful sounding albums - perfect pieces in production, mix and sounds. No 'contextual' understanding is needed to get their greatness. They defy time. Like masterpieces should do.
But by contrast, I don't think YA-YA's has survived so well. At the time I got to know the album - 1982 - it sounded bloody incredible - as I played so loud I could (and my parents allow) through my lousy hifi system. It was through it I truely got convinced how majestic the riff of "Jumping Jack Flash" is, and what a killer the song altogether is. The same especially with "Street Fighting Man". I had the studio versions for sure by then, and I dug them a lot, but it was the YA-YA'S versions that totally blew my mind. If the originals sounded initially to my teenager ears a bit odd with their sixties experimental vibe (took some years to really get their magic), those live versions spoke to me in timeless language. It was simply best sounding rock music I ever had heard. I guess it thoe YA-YA'S versions, especially in regard to "Flash" and "Fighting Man" that are blueprinted in my mind, and I compare any other live versions unintentionally to them. And they always fail the test in making such a huge impression... (However, with iconic "Rambler", the Brussels version - which I get to knew from BEDSPRING SYMPHONY bootleg - actually later made the YA-YA'S one sound like an early sketch not yet fulfilling all of its potential).
But yeah, to my ears the album still sounds musically magnificiant, but at the same time I do recognize that - compared to recorded live music ever (Stones or not) - it sonically and production-wise needs a bit acquired taste to get its magic. There is a certain charm in its muddy, non-separated division of tracks, in which each instrument, including Jagger's voice, interestingly - and tightly, though a slightly out of tune sometimes - makes together one big wall of sound. But I do understand not every listener, even a Rolling Stones fan, gets or need to get it.
- Doxa
I was blown away, when I heard GYYYO the first time in the spring 1975, when I was eleven years old. The collage-like introduction, the false start and the the first chords of JJF - and Jagger's voice. That was timelessness incarnated - and still is and will, I guess, remain so - for me. GYYYO is the first of BIG FOUR LIVE ALBUMS - of which the last three wasn't properly officially released for decades: Ladies and gentlemen, Brussels affair and Live in Texas, The El Mocambo-part from LYL might be added to those BIG FOUR, but otherwise the later live-albums are somewhat disappointing, even though they might be better recorded.
44 years later I still ger goosbumps when I put GYYYO on.
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frankotero
Think it's odd how the bonus tracks on the 40th anniversary edition sound modern. Wonder why the original album couldn't have the same quality. Maybe there's another "complete" edition somewhere in the plans?
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GetYerAngie
I was blown away, when I heard GYYYO the first time in the spring 1975, when I was eleven years old. The collage-like introduction, the false start and the the first chords of JJF - and Jagger's voice. That was timelessness incarnated - and still is and will, I guess, remain so - for me.
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TheGreek
I just had a thought that is this a troll ? trolling us by disparaging the masterpiece that is Get Yer Ya Ya's out and Gimmie Shelter from the Mayles ? As an advisory we should not feed the trolls !
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TheGreek
I just had a thought that is this a troll ? trolling us by disparaging the masterpiece that is Get Yer Ya Ya's out and Gimmie Shelter from the Mayles ? As an advisory we should not feed the trolls !
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TheGreek
I just had a thought that is this a troll ? trolling us by disparaging the masterpiece that is Get Yer Ya Ya's out and Gimmie Shelter from the Mayles ? As an advisory we should not feed the trolls !
Funny you mentioned that. I thought exactly the same thing. When I first saw the post I just started laughing. Really, abuse the sound quality of GYYYO as well as the soundtrack on GS? The drum sound from Charlie is fantastic. Glyn did a great job with what he had to work with. The guitar sound on YaYa's is amazing IMO. Bill soars as well. We even get bits of Stew in there as well that take those songs to a different level. Having seen the Stones in 69 their sound was unique to anything I had ever heard by ANY band. I guess it was their rigs and certainly those Ampeg speakers had something big to do with it too. This is captured on GYYYO. SFM is the definitive live version on GYYO and gives the studio version a run for the money.That sound IS epitome of the 1969 Rolling Stones.
The argument can be made that certain pressings of this album sound a bit flat in comparison. My first pressing US London Waddell always sounded good to me, but like most people, we didn't know any better. We just went out and bought the damn records when they were released not knowing that there better quality pressings around, especially US London vs UK Decca. GYYYO is a classic example of this. Ironically enough I FINALLY secured a near mint stereo UK Decca GYYYO yesterday after all these years. Let me tell you, this LP explodes out of the speakers compared with the US LOndon releases. Night and day difference. All I can say is wow! My other comment with GYYYO is listen to the SACD. The SACD sound is also very, very good, and to my ears way better that the US vinyl. That said, a quality not heavily played US pressing turned up on a decent sound system will still curl your toes.
The pity of GYYYO is we didn't get a full show. The brilliant 40th Anniversary release fills in the blanks. That box is a must have for serious fans. The fidelity on the CD is very good, and the extra 5 tracks on the other CD are essential. I simply love that sound on those tracks. The drum sound is amazing in particular.
What's not to like about the sound on GS? First seen in the theater they had it cranked up and we were blown away. I have always loved that MSG JJF. Better than YaYa's imo. There is a purity to that rendition. They have it down. Satisfaction just rocks the house. The Altamont stuff is very good as well. Pity there wasn't more of it....Bottom line is, this is how the band sounded in 1969. To me that remains my favorite tour sound. Sure if you were there, the 72-73 tours were fantastic sound wise too, but YaYa's and GS show the band in terrific form. Thankfully we have those recordings. BTW, the Criterion DVD/Blu-ray edition is terrific. How anyone can bitch about the sound quality there simply doesn't get it.
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nonfilter
I have a great surround system. I love the album and the film, but is the sound quality really considered good? Every other live recording they ever released sounds light years ahead of these two to me. It’s puzzled me for years!
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Single Malt
I wouldn't mind listening GYYYO from old mono record player because it still sounds great through an old speaker compared to clean crap like Flashpoint. To me, it's the music, not the sound quality.
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nonfilter
Can someone enlighten me? I always hear Get Your Ya Ya’s Out praised as being The Stones greatest live album. The musicianship, to me, is decent, but not noteworthy. What am I missing? Jagger sounds strained and slightly off key at best. Keith’s guitar sounds muffled and also slightly out of tune. Bill’s bass is great, but poorly recorded. Same for Charlie’s drums. Mick Taylor sounds like he’s a very talented 19 year old practicing his lead licks over the best band in the world’s worst recorded live performances. His guitar also sounds muffled to me. The Gimme Shelter film sounds like the same thing to me. And all the songs seem to be in slow motion. What am I missing?