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Coming to think of it, maybe he did it as a sort of wink to his mistake (that one *was* a mistake) when starting MR instead of Paint It Black. Sort of like a running gag.
I was only there by scope, but the whole show did feel a bit subdued (maybe just by contrast with Washington, which was a real high).
As for Ramblergate, it all reminds me so much of the whole Scarf Me Up hoo-hah a couple of years ago. We'll all get over it.
I still think it was a total f_ck up....just b/c they are laughing doesn't mean it's a joke...people often laugh when they "f_ck up".
If it was intentional, it comes off as "lame" to me....not that my opinion matters, but if he is "bored" or "wants to mess w/ Mick" or "doesn't like the crowd energy," I prefer Keith work on his legitimate playing/soloing and/or do some legitimate musical improvisations....rather than gag f_ck ups
Sorry, but the MR "Re-Start" did nothing to improve the show or the song.
Just my opinion
As stated: fun times, good show.
Keep on Rollin', Stones!
True, Keith would never try to sabotage a song on purpose, especially not nowadays, it was a mistake, not the end of the world.
Is that the old story that he has a permanent cold since they returned to the road in 2012 (yes he blew his nose a lot at the O2) or based on actual facts/observations ?
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Yep, here in particular : [youtu.be] but that was 20+ friggin' years ago, sad in a way, but hey he's still there playing louder than ever, let's drink to that !
Rock on guys and come back to Europe next year !
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+1
And countless others over the years...which begs the question, WHY ?!
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+1 more.
Looks to me also as if it was deliberate. Either way, there’s a lot of over-thinking going on about it
AMEN. THANK YOU FOR THIS ANSWER!
Sorry, respectfully can't oblige on this request
this is a discussion forum....it's used to discuss things.
do you care when people discuss-to-death every other minute detail surrounding the Stones?
B/c that's what happens here....it's kinda the point of the site.
besides...your post is critiquing people b/c they are critiquing?
Ironic, no?
This post deserves a D minus due to the unnecessary use of bold text.
Only thing saving it from an F is the last three lines..."Roll! Rock! Let it loose"!
Had you left it as simple as that, you might have earned an A!
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Good question - could have something to do with being banned multiple times in the past, and probably only a matter of time before it happens again.
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Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
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matxil
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Date: July 9, 2019 11:31
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Stoneage
I think some of you are deluding yourselves. Five gigs so far. Keith has made big mistakes in two of them. And he still hits a couple of bum notes at every gig.
That would perhaps have been funny twenty years ago but, I think, more worrying now. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the MR mistake was the last he made this tour.
Let's wait and see...
I only saw the video and clearly MR is not a mistake, Keith is doing it on purpose. I don't know why exactly, but it's kind of funny.
Coming to think of it, maybe he did it as a sort of wink to his mistake (that one *was* a mistake) when starting MR instead of Paint It Black. Sort of like a running gag.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Green Lady
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Date: July 9, 2019 11:58
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keefriff99The crowd was not great last night, that's for sure.Quote
MileHigh
My take on Ramblergate.
Why doesn't Mick lay off on the audience participation shtick in MR? After all, this is not Argentina. The audience was bored and barely doing the echo back business. Mick returned to the main stage in defeat. It just didn't work. It definitely wasn't clicking and was uncomfortable.
So when they were all together after Mick's walk back, everybody was in a weird and uncomfortable state. So for the hell of it Keith decided to fire off the riff in a burst. It was to shake things up, it was kind of like him sneering at the audience. And for a few seconds it seemed like Keith was channeling the 1998 Keith!
MR should not be like a YCAGWYW sing-along. I don't even care for it in YCAGWYW. Play the song hard and dangerous, give us those rock blues licks and deliver on the danger. The last thing that song needs is a bloody Romper Room sing-along. Are you getting this Mick?
Beyond that, let this be the last tour. 2012-2019, the Phase V Stones, or whatever the number. Thank you, we finally ARE satisfied.
I've been in some fantastic crowds in the Northeast over the years, but last night's was relatively quiet and restrained. There were some good singalong moments and the GA area appeared to be active, but the mezzanine and upper deck sections were pretty subdued.
I was only there by scope, but the whole show did feel a bit subdued (maybe just by contrast with Washington, which was a real high).
As for Ramblergate, it all reminds me so much of the whole Scarf Me Up hoo-hah a couple of years ago. We'll all get over it.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Stonesfan2146
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Date: July 9, 2019 13:02
The tour break of a week seems to fit perfectly for Mick to cure his cold
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: July 9, 2019 13:20
He has a cold?
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
MartinB
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Date: July 9, 2019 13:38
Finally saw the MR clips. It was clearly deliberate.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
stickyfingers101
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Date: July 9, 2019 13:49
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matxilQuote
matxilQuote
Stoneage
I think some of you are deluding yourselves. Five gigs so far. Keith has made big mistakes in two of them. And he still hits a couple of bum notes at every gig.
That would perhaps have been funny twenty years ago but, I think, more worrying now. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the MR mistake was the last he made this tour.
Let's wait and see...
I only saw the video and clearly MR is not a mistake, Keith is doing it on purpose. I don't know why exactly, but it's kind of funny.
Coming to think of it, maybe he did it as a sort of wink to his mistake (that one *was* a mistake) when starting MR instead of Paint It Black. Sort of like a running gag.
I still think it was a total f_ck up....just b/c they are laughing doesn't mean it's a joke...people often laugh when they "f_ck up".
If it was intentional, it comes off as "lame" to me....not that my opinion matters, but if he is "bored" or "wants to mess w/ Mick" or "doesn't like the crowd energy," I prefer Keith work on his legitimate playing/soloing and/or do some legitimate musical improvisations....rather than gag f_ck ups
Sorry, but the MR "Re-Start" did nothing to improve the show or the song.
Just my opinion
As stated: fun times, good show.
Keep on Rollin', Stones!
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
MartinB
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Date: July 9, 2019 14:09
"Sorry, but the MR "Re-Start" did nothing to improve the show or the song."
I agree it did not improve the song but it was deliberate. Not all jokes go well all the time...
I agree it did not improve the song but it was deliberate. Not all jokes go well all the time...
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
wonderboy
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Date: July 9, 2019 14:29
The MR thing looks intentional, seems from his reaction afterward and the timing of it to start. Also from Mick's reaction ... he didn't seem annoyed and it didn't break his timing.
Maybe it was sort of a reminder to the audience that, 'Hey, this is Midnight Rambler here! Pay attention.'
And/or some sort of shared joke with Mick.
Maybe it was sort of a reminder to the audience that, 'Hey, this is Midnight Rambler here! Pay attention.'
And/or some sort of shared joke with Mick.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
EasterMan
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Date: July 9, 2019 15:00
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yeababyyea
I can't believe people on here are trying to convince themselves Keith played the intro riff deliberately... Keith is at a stage now where he cannot fool around with the songs and he knows he has to focus not to make mistakes. What happened was the band went almost silent for a moment which made Keith a bit confused and he thought it was time to play the intro riff again. He's 75 years old and playing in front of 50.000 people, it's not strange at all that he became a bit confused in the middle of a 10 min long song.
True, Keith would never try to sabotage a song on purpose, especially not nowadays, it was a mistake, not the end of the world.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
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Date: July 9, 2019 15:03
It was intentional, just a joke from Keith that was well-recognized by Mick. And by the way, it was not bad, for one show.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Nikkei
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Date: July 9, 2019 15:08
This Kool-Aid tastes different from what the band supplies
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
gotdablouse
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Date: July 9, 2019 15:15
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Stonesfan2146
The tour break of a week seems to fit perfectly for Mick to cure his cold
Is that the old story that he has a permanent cold since they returned to the road in 2012 (yes he blew his nose a lot at the O2) or based on actual facts/observations ?
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Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
gotdablouse
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Date: July 9, 2019 15:30
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MileHighQuote
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keefriff99Well, anyone who says "better than ever" is clearly not being objective, but post-2012, I'd say he's doing pretty damn good.Quote
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MacLaurens
Except for MR, what other songs did Keith "screw up"?
Not so much screw up as go through the motions, i expect too much from him that's my problem.
When people say getting better than ever and things like that, i just wonder have they ever seen what that man could do 20 years ago.
But people forget he was ever like this that think he was on top form last night, it's the difference in between night and day in his performance , about 4.42 onward he just shows what Rock n Roll is all about, energy and attitude. Charlies amazing too, the whole thing just lifts you.
[www.youtube.com]
Keith is on fire there! It is shocking.
Yep, here in particular : [youtu.be] but that was 20+ friggin' years ago, sad in a way, but hey he's still there playing louder than ever, let's drink to that !
Rock on guys and come back to Europe next year !
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Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Doxa
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Date: July 9, 2019 15:52
Hmm.. to me that 'Rambler-incident', done on purpose or not, was on with the show. A funny extra moment in a loose song full of room for improvisation (in that section)... Besides, the riff in its full glory sounded damn great and effective there...
- Doxa
- Doxa
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
maumau
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Date: July 9, 2019 16:18
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Doxa
Besides, the riff in its full glory sounded damn great and effective there...
- Doxa
+1
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
gotdablouse
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Date: July 9, 2019 16:34
Yeah, nothing to interfere with the listening experience of the master riffer !
As a side note I often struggle to hear Mick's very apt guitar playing as it's buried in the mix or covered by Ronnie's parts. Maybe he should go on a tangent one of these days too with his guitar...unlikely ;-)
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As a side note I often struggle to hear Mick's very apt guitar playing as it's buried in the mix or covered by Ronnie's parts. Maybe he should go on a tangent one of these days too with his guitar...unlikely ;-)
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Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
gotdablouse
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Date: July 9, 2019 16:35
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KoenQuote
LovingCupola
Xam you are very obliging this evening and on top of ALL the feeds!
Xam = Max’s Kansas City?
And countless others over the years...which begs the question, WHY ?!
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Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: July 9, 2019 16:39
Intentional or not. This is live rock music, not a note for note classical recital.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Beast
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Date: July 9, 2019 16:47
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maumauQuote
Doxa
Besides, the riff in its full glory sounded damn great and effective there...
- Doxa
+1
+1 more.
Looks to me also as if it was deliberate. Either way, there’s a lot of over-thinking going on about it
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
caschimann
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Date: July 9, 2019 16:48
Can't believe whats going on here. Stop all this: given school certificate for every song, every lick, break, tune they do up there. What has happened to you all over the last 50 years???? In 1972 in MSG they would have carry you out of the place with this music-teacher talk. Roll! Rock! Let it loose!
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
RG
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Date: July 9, 2019 16:52
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caschimann
Can't believe whats going on here. Stop all this: given school certificate for every song, every lick, break, tune they do up there. What has happened to you all over the last 50 years???? In 1972 in MSG they would have carry you out of the place with this music-teacher talk. Roll! Rock! Let it loose!
AMEN. THANK YOU FOR THIS ANSWER!
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 9, 2019 17:21
Don't get too concerned about doing the fan thing right
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Nikkei
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Date: July 9, 2019 17:24
This could all have been avoided if everybody just said "Ow"
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Maindefender
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Date: July 9, 2019 17:52
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caschimann
Can't believe whats going on here. Stop all this: given school certificate for every song, every lick, break, tune they do up there. What has happened to you all over the last 50 years???? In 1972 in MSG they would have carry you out of the place with this music-teacher talk. Roll! Rock! Let it loose!
Sorry, respectfully can't oblige on this request
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Kurt
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Date: July 9, 2019 18:16
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Nikkei
This could all have been avoided if everybody just said "Ow"
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
stickyfingers101
()
Date: July 9, 2019 18:21
Quote
caschimann
Can't believe whats going on here. Stop all this: given school certificate for every song, every lick, break, tune they do up there. What has happened to you all over the last 50 years???? In 1972 in MSG they would have carry you out of the place with this music-teacher talk. Roll! Rock! Let it loose!
this is a discussion forum....it's used to discuss things.
do you care when people discuss-to-death every other minute detail surrounding the Stones?
B/c that's what happens here....it's kinda the point of the site.
besides...your post is critiquing people b/c they are critiquing?
Ironic, no?
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
Hairball
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Date: July 9, 2019 18:55
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caschimann
Can't believe whats going on here. Stop all this: given school certificate for every song, every lick, break, tune they do up there. What has happened to you all over the last 50 years???? In 1972 in MSG they would have carry you out of the place with this music-teacher talk. Roll! Rock! Let it loose!
This post deserves a D minus due to the unnecessary use of bold text.
Only thing saving it from an F is the last three lines..."Roll! Rock! Let it loose"!
Had you left it as simple as that, you might have earned an A!
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Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
emotionalbarbecue
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Date: July 9, 2019 18:58
I was skeptical about this tour. They haven`t played this good for years....unbelieveable.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
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Date: July 9, 2019 19:16
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emotionalbarbecue
I was skeptical about this tour. They haven`t played this good for years....unbelieveable.
Yes they play very well!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-07-09 19:17 by jumpingjackflash5.
Re: Foxboro/Boston show 7-July-2019 live updates - The Rolling Stones No Filter Tour
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Hairball
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Date: July 9, 2019 19:56
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gotdablouseQuote
KoenQuote
LovingCupola
Xam you are very obliging this evening and on top of ALL the feeds!
Xam = Max’s Kansas City?
And countless others over the years...which begs the question, WHY ?!
Good question - could have something to do with being banned multiple times in the past, and probably only a matter of time before it happens again.
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