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keefriff99But you keep lamenting Keith's current state...wouldn't it be safe to say that some of his decline is related to his lifestyle?Quote
keithsman
Yes obviously something like that, Mick also.
Yes Keith was fueled on a sandwich of drink an coke, that's Rock and Roll, he invented it , he honed it down to perfection and since the bang on the head he had to choose life, so Keith got the best of both worlds and at 76 we can't convincingly say he's paying the price can we, he's still doing his gig in an honest way compared to a couple others on stage, as i say role reversal.
He could still have gone down as one of the great rock'n'roll hellraisers and cleaned up his act in the '80s or '90s, but he pushed it to the limit instead.
I'll take current Keith over how he was back in, say, 2007. He's definitely slid into a new phase of his onstage career, but he's handling it well for the most part.
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maumau
passive aggressive posting (i.e. deleted post with sneaky hint) is not really nice
"There is an elephant in the room, can't believe me of all people have to bring it up first, watching these clips all morning something is up with Keith.
Not just his timing is it, something more serious that that i feel, it's been going on for a while but it's worse.
He's doing great on most of his solo's but he is having huge gaps in concentration, coming in at the wrong time, it's worrying to say the least and no one has noticed it but me ?? oh come on."
funny post. when i mentioned keith after the second chicago show you defended him. nothing personal in pointing this out, i love keith and completely buy into the B.S. myth surrounding him. in 2015 he was spot on. and South America 2016 was better. but his head bump was serious. (don't know if this is true) but it was said he needed to take anti-seizure medication for the rest of his life. the fact is, he needs to exercise and play electric guitar basically every day. it appears he's not doing this and time is catching up with him. from (?) coventry on last year he was great and back to the old keith. he's like a forty year old Playmate, he's gonna have to work hard now to keep what he's got. quite frankly, he's looking better in boston. midnight rambler the second night in chicago was the only time keith was at full volume. it was a smokin' rambler, too. raise a glass to better days.
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mandu
I think the midnight rambler thing Keith did was a joke,he had a laugh about it after he did it.
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GJB
For what it’s worth, having watched it, I too think Keith did it on purpose, I don’t think it was a joke or a mess up, I think he was just enjoying the spirit of the middle section of Rambler and joining in the improvisation. I thought it worked quite well!
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Maindefender
I think it was a Mick/Chuck Berry moment where Keith said enough is enough with whatever BS he perceived was going down
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MileHigh
The Honky Tonk Woman from Gimme Shelter still gives me thrills. It's just beyond amazing! lol
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GJB
For what it’s worth, having watched it, I too think Keith did it on purpose, I don’t think it was a joke or a mess up, I think he was just enjoying the spirit of the middle section of Rambler and joining in the improvisation. I thought it worked quite well!
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keefriff99Well, anyone who says "better than ever" is clearly not being objective, but post-2012, I'd say he's doing pretty damn good.Quote
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MacLaurens
Except for MR, what other songs did Keith "screw up"?
Not so much screw up as go through the motions, i expect too much from him that's my problem.
When people say getting better than ever and things like that, i just wonder have they ever seen what that man could do 20 years ago.
But people forget he was ever like this that think he was on top form last night, it's the difference in between night and day in his performance , about 4.42 onward he just shows what Rock n Roll is all about, energy and attitude. Charlies amazing too, the whole thing just lifts you.
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watching MR right now.When Keith hits that opening riff during the middle, he clearly does so deliberately. He's plainly goofing off. In a way that seems connected to what happened in Chicaco. But even more, I believe it's in response to the very poor audience interaction. At 6:05 Micks body language suggests very much that he feels let down by the reaction. What Keith does shows irreverence like "well if they don't get into it, we might as well..." It's meant to fly over the heads of those people. Usually the audience is in the palm of Micks hand at that point of the show. They're in fact very tight with each other here, that thing is being approved of. A tiny bit cynical maybe, but it's what it is
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MileHigh
My take on Ramblergate.
Why doesn't Mick lay off on the audience participation shtick in MR? After all, this is not Argentina. The audience was bored and barely doing the echo back business. Mick returned to the main stage in defeat. It just didn't work. It definitely wasn't clicking and was uncomfortable.
So when they were all together after Mick's walk back, everybody was in a weird and uncomfortable state. So for the hell of it Keith decided to fire off the riff in a burst. It was to shake things up, it was kind of like him sneering at the audience. And for a few seconds it seemed like Keith was channeling the 1998 Keith!
MR should not be like a YCAGWYW sing-along. I don't even care for it in YCAGWYW. Play the song hard and dangerous, give us those rock blues licks and deliver on the danger. The last thing that song needs is a bloody Romper Room sing-along. Are you getting this Mick?
Beyond that, let this be the last tour. 2012-2019, the Phase V Stones, or whatever the number. Thank you, we finally ARE satisfied.
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Hairball
A friend of mine who was there (and had been to two previous this tour) told me Ronnie had a bad night without mentioning any specifics...
Other than the sometimes spastic and discombobulated solo's of his at every show, anyone notice anything peculiar with Ronnie last night?
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keithsman
but his head bump was serious. (don't know if this is true) but it was said he needed to take anti-seizure medication for the rest of his life.
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Stoneage
I think some of you are deluding yourselves. Five gigs so far. Keith has made big mistakes in two of them. And he still hits a couple of bum notes at every gig.
That would perhaps have been funny twenty years ago but, I think, more worrying now. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the MR mistake was the last he made this tour.
Let's wait and see...
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mandu
I think the midnight rambler thing Keith did was a joke,he had a laugh about it after he did it.