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shortfatfanny
The evil curse of Brian Jones...?
A footnote in Stones history...?
No Jones No Stones !
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Swayed1967
By rights, Brian Jones should be no more than a footnote in Stones folklore a la Pete Best...
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Swayed1967
He made a few sublime contributions like the slide on No Expectations, there’s no denying that. But Nicky Hopkins probably made twice as many. No, if not for the lurid circumstances of his demise he would be but a footnote at the bottom of a few album covers.
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Swayed1967
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He made a few sublime contributions like the slide on No Expectations, there’s no denying that. But Nicky Hopkins probably made twice as many. No, if not for the lurid circumstances of his demise he would be but a footnote at the bottom of a few album covers.
I see we have entered the inevitable ignorant @#$%& stage of any Brian Jones thread.
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TheflyingDutchman
It's the hardcore Stones fans only that acknowledge Brian's importance for the band. Many of the younger generation doesn't even know who Mick Taylor or Bill Wyman was; It's Ron Wood who's the second guitarist in the stones for them, for 45 years already. That's life.
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Swayed1967
He made a few sublime contributions like the slide on No Expectations, there’s no denying that. But Nicky Hopkins probably made twice as many. No, if not for the lurid circumstances of his demise he would be but a footnote at the bottom of a few album covers.
I see we have entered the inevitable ignorant @#$%& stage of any Brian Jones thread.
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Doxa
The problems usually start when factual matters are confused with subjective opinions. But in the world of alternative facts we nowadays are destined to live in, so who really cares...
- Doxa
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Doxa
...so who really cares...
- Doxa
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shortfatfanny
HM...I care about your knowledge and your posts...
so keep on your good work...
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TheflyingDutchman
It's the hardcore Stones fans only that acknowledge Brian's importance for the band. Many of the younger generation doesn't even know who Mick Taylor or Bill Wyman was; It's Ron Wood who's the second guitarist in the stones for them, for 45 years already. That's life.
Instagram etc etc is chock full of young people endlessly posting about Brian.
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Swayed1967
And it’s all about the music for these young hipsters, is it?
I have to say though the bare ‘facts’ would seem to be on my side – he only plays on a small percentage of their songs, none of which he wrote.
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Swayed1967
Ok, let’s put it this way – if he had just left the band and faded into obscurity rather than dying he wouldn’t today be generating much interest on Instagram or this board...
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Swayed1967
Ok, let’s put it this way – if he had just left the band and faded into obscurity rather than dying he wouldn’t today be generating much interest on Instagram or this board...
You assume obscurity.
There is only what happened and what has happened is his death and the tales about his life has totally overwhelmed him as a musician.
Had he lived no one knows how his musicianship would be viewed without all or some of that hanging over it. It is likely that Keith and co wouldn't have been so loose with their tongues because Brian still being alive removes much of the remembrance aspect from interviews here Brian is mentioned.
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Making it just about the music, it's easy to conclude that this cat was pretty @#$%& good. There he goes being part of a fantastic bit of team work by a great @#$%& band enhanced by a great @#$%& pianist and some friends.
Click the pic to open the Youtube link.
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TheflyingDutchman
He might have ended up...
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He might have ended up...
... one of the most successful session musicians and record producers in the history of recorded music or a homeless alcoholic begging on the street or both.
No one knows. He died.
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TheflyingDutchman
It's the hardcore Stones fans only that acknowledge Brian's importance for the band. Many of the younger generation doesn't even know who Mick Taylor or Bill Wyman was; It's Ron Wood who's the second guitarist in the stones for them, for 45 years already. That's life.
Instagram etc etc is chock full of young people endlessly posting about Brian.
And it’s all about the music for these young hipsters, is it?
Don’t think so. The term ‘cult following’ comes to mind which many artists who die prematurely seem to enjoy. (I actually met and bedded a Japanese girl some years back who was a huge Brian Jones fan but knew comparatively little about the Rolling Stones. She was a bit wacky…)
But don’t despair, mine is but one subjective opinion – you’re entitled to your own.
I have to say though the bare ‘facts’ would seem to be on my side – he only plays on a small percentage of their songs, none of which he wrote. Mick and Keith apparently agreed that he was expendable…
I’m not sure how anyone could argue against what I’m saying – other than to join the cult and scream ‘No Jones No Stones!’
I never, however, said he was a loser and I recognized his sublime contributions (Yeah I called them ‘sublime’! How much more effusive does my praise need to be for me not to be ignorant as FxxK?) And I love kazoos and dulcimers as much as the next bloke but c’mon those are footnote instruments. (Perhaps it’s the word ‘footnote’ that you find offensive. Ok, let’s put it this way – if he had just left the band and faded into obscurity rather than dying he wouldn’t today be generating much interest on Instagram or this board and I probably wouldn’t have banged that Japanese girl.)
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ovalvox
A small percentage of songs????? You claim the Japanese girl you bedded knew comparatively little about Brian Jones. How would you know when you know very little yourself.
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His Majesty
It has to be all about the music? It's not all about the music for most of the active members here never mind 'young hipsters' on instagram.
Brian is on the majority of music recorded during 1962 - 1969. He is part of the Nanker Phelge credits. He helped write the arrangements with many distinctive contributions.
The bare facts and the music are not on your side. One need only listen to the mono box set to understand why.
Click the pic to open the Youtube link.
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ovalvox
A small percentage of songs????? You claim the Japanese girl you bedded knew comparatively little about Brian Jones. How would you know when you know very little yourself.