Tell Me :  Talk
Talk about your favorite band. 

Previous page Next page First page IORR home

For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.

The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: June 22, 2019 17:27

An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.

Featuring Brian with The Rolling Stones, his soundtrack work on Mord Und Totschlag/A Degree Of Murder, guest appearances on other peoples recordings and interviews.

Highlighting and looking at what he played, what he said and what he was interested in.

Youtube: [www.youtube.com]
Twitter: [twitter.com]
Instagram: [www.instagram.com]


smileys with beer



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2020-05-09 13:24 by His Majesty.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: rootsman ()
Date: June 22, 2019 18:23

thumbs upgrinning smiley

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: Milan ()
Date: June 22, 2019 20:03

Subscribed.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: June 24, 2019 18:08

Some recent uploads to Youtube. Click on the images to open the relevant links.

Mord Und Totschlag - Music by Brian Jones - playlist. Most, but not all of the music from the film.



...

The Rolling Stones - No.1 Courtfield Road - 22nd January 1967



...

Andre Heller Ö3 Radio - Brian Jones interview - Vienna, Austria - September 1968.


Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Date: June 24, 2019 19:01

That was the opening sequence?? Wow. It doesn't sound like it matches the film. But IMO it shows Brian as a very adept writer. A pity. He would have done amazing work.

edit - I mean, he did do amazing work, but he would have shown the world a lot more. as his own man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-06-24 19:02 by Palace Revolution 2000.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: June 24, 2019 19:14

It's a playlist of most of the music.

Yes, that first part is from the opening credits/scenes. It's just a screen shot image of course. Music fits the opening well if you watch it. That distinctive slide bit is a recurring part when the gun is shown through out the film.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-06-26 12:48 by His Majesty.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: June 26, 2019 13:03

Click on the images to open the relevant Youtube links.

...

The Rolling Stones - Cool, Calm & Collected - featuring Brian Jones playing electric dulcimer.

Recorded at RCA Studios, Los Angeles in August 1966.
Line up:
Brian Jones - Vox bijou electric dulcimer
Mick Jagger - vocals & harmonica
Keith Richards - electric guitar & kazoo
Ian Stewart or Jack Nitzsche - piano
Bill Wyman - bass guitar
Charlie Watts - drums



...

The Rolling Stones - Majesties Honky Tonk (take 3) - featuring Brian Jones playing organ.

Recorded at Olympic Studios in 1967.
Line up:
Brian Jones - organ
Keith Richards - bass guitar
Nicky Hopkins - piano and tack piano
Charlie Watts - drums



...

The Rolling Stones - Gold Painted Nails (take 17) - featuring Brian Jones playing harmonica.

Recorded at Olympic Studios in 1967.

Line up:
Brian Jones - harmonica
Keith Richards - acoustic guitar
Nicky Hopkins - organ
Bill Wyman - bass guitar
Charlie Watts - drums


Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: RobberBride ()
Date: June 26, 2019 13:58

Quote
His Majesty


No drama, no hyperbole, just highlighting and looking at what he played, what he said and what he was interested in.


smileys with beer

Yes! Looking forward to this.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: June 27, 2019 00:47

No phoney baloney, overheated murder conspiracies? Good. Maybe I'll look into it.

smiling smileythumbs upRe: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: bleedingman ()
Date: June 27, 2019 03:02

Great f*ckn stuff, HM! Love your posts. Your breakdown of the Brian/Circus fraud has ruined my childhood. Thanks.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: June 28, 2019 19:24

Great to see the Courtfield Road footage. Anyone know who shot it?
Was it purely private footage or for a longer Stones documentary?
The scenes reminded me of the footage in the film Stoned'.
Is Charlie in the film? I saw Bill...with some ladies of course. Mick and Keith and Stash. Michael Cooper possibly. Any others?

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 7, 2019 14:24

Quote
jlowe
Great to see the Courtfield Road footage. Anyone know who shot it?
Was it purely private footage or for a longer Stones documentary?
The scenes reminded me of the footage in the film Stoned'.
Is Charlie in the film? I saw Bill...with some ladies of course. Mick and Keith and Stash. Michael Cooper possibly. Any others?

It was shot by Rai - italian television.

Stash is not shown and neither is Charlie. Michael Cooper, Nikki Kramer are on the sofa. Some other people who I don't know.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 7, 2019 14:32

Can someone with the 40 licks CD, perhaps the deluxe? version look in the booklet please?

Does the author of the accompanying text say who played what or is such information actually listed along with the song titles and writing credits?

smileys with beer

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: July 7, 2019 14:39

Quote
His Majesty
Can someone with the 40 licks CD, perhaps the deluxe? version look in the booklet please?

Does the author of the accompanying text say who played what or is such information actually listed along with the song titles and writing credits?

smileys with beer

You mean Stones songs in general? Are you familiar with Keno's overview of songs done by the Stones? He doesn't claim to be perfect, but it can be some help.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 7, 2019 15:01

Quote
georgie48


You mean Stones songs in general? Are you familiar with Keno's overview of songs done by the Stones? He doesn't claim to be perfect, but it can be some help.


Avoid keno. grinning smiley

I am just looking to clarify whether the info is in the piece by the writer or the song credits?

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Date: July 9, 2019 13:38

Hey Philip,
I just could not locate your email address in my contacts; had to switch a while back and lost a bunch. Didn't want to start a new OT thread for something completely out of left filed either.
But I wonder if you have this answer. What is that freakin instrument in "Good Vibrations" that gives the song it's movement and throb? I don't know if you could call the pattern triplets; but it's in the lower register.
I was watching that footage of them in studio. Hal Blaine on drums. Who is that on organ and uprite bass? did not realize there were two basses on it.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 9, 2019 14:07

Quote
Palace Revolution 2000

But I wonder if you have this answer. What is that freakin instrument in "Good Vibrations" that gives the song it's movement and throb? I don't know if you could call the pattern triplets; but it's in the lower register.

Cello's. smiling smiley

[youtu.be]

...

The Good Vibrations studio footage is all rather staged after it had been recorded.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-07-09 14:10 by His Majesty.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: July 9, 2019 14:53

Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
Hey Philip,
I just could not locate your email address in my contacts; had to switch a while back and lost a bunch. Didn't want to start a new OT thread for something completely out of left filed either.
But I wonder if you have this answer. What is that freakin instrument in "Good Vibrations" that gives the song it's movement and throb? I don't know if you could call the pattern triplets; but it's in the lower register.
I was watching that footage of them in studio. Hal Blaine on drums. Who is that on organ and uprite bass? did not realize there were two basses on it.

Recorded at Gold Star on 2/18/66 - take 28 is master and the engineer was Cal Harris

Drums - Hal Blaine
Percussion - Frank Capp
Fender Bass - Ray Pohlman
String Bass - Lyle Ritz
Guitars - Al Casey, Billy Strange
Piano - Don Randi
Organ - Larry Knechtel
Sax - Steve Douglas, Bill Green, Plas Johnson, Ray Migliori
Theremin - Paul Tanner

Note: It actually was not a Theremin being played but something simpler that Paul Tanner and inventor Bob Whitsell made. An instrument that made sounds similar to Leon Theremin's creation, but made it a lot simpler for non-experts to hit specific notes and control the volume.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 9, 2019 15:03

^ That misses out the cello's. grinning smiley

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: July 9, 2019 15:39

Gret, great stuff, His Majesty!thumbs up

- Doxa

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 9, 2019 17:00

Just to note. None of this is meant to undermine or shit on the majesty of the rest of the band. Merely to highlight what is a very misunderstood musician by both fans (sane and batshit crazy) and detractors.

Threads or posts like "I Want To Hear Brian" and so on are quite common on the Internets. A number of his own fans seem quite ignorant, wilfully so at times, of what he actually played. They'd credit him with the creation of the universe if they could get away with it.

Then there are many people like our very own Mathijs. He falls in to the detractor category. Brian can seemingly do no right in his ears. Always this belittling attitude and making sure to tell us he's just an amateur level musician etc.

grinning smiley

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: July 9, 2019 17:08

Good information about Brian from a source with balanced views would be great.

The problem with most BJ focussed resources is that they follow the "Brian was lovely and the rest of the Stones were horrible" template.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 9, 2019 17:16

Quote
Spud
Good information about Brian from a source with balanced views would be great.

The problem with most BJ focussed resources is that they follow the "Brian was lovely and the rest of the Stones were horrible" template.

Indeed.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2019-07-09 17:40 by His Majesty.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - An audio, visual and written resource focusing on Brian Jones.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: August 30, 2019 13:43

With the mindset to once and for all really find out whether Brian was recorded for all of the set at the Rock and Roll Circus and if so what he played I spent time altering the mixes to isolate the guitars as best as possible. Finally found a good balance that lets us hear that Brian was indeed playing and recorded on all of the songs performed. I chose to not bother isolating No Expectations and Sympathy as what he plays there is quite obvious. Also, there are no overdubs on the official release. There is some mic bleed and staged introductions of different mics which creates the impression that there is more going on at times.

...

Jumpin' Jack Flash

Brian's guitar is upon first and many more impressions later inaudible on the official release. However, within the mix Brian is heard playing. In this isolated mix you can hear Keith's brighter and more dirty guitar and Brian's very bassy more muffled guitar. Whether his tone was like that at the event or is just how it was mixed is open to debate. Some will mistake this for Bill's bass, but it's not. smiling smiley

Youtube - Jumpin' Jack Flash

Brian Jones - guitar (warm, bassy tone)
Keith Richards - guitar - (bright, distorted tone)

For the main riff Brian's part consists of a B power chord at 2nd fret. Then playing low open E note on 6th string, F# on 6th string followed by an A note on open 5th string. The chorus and middle 8/outro consists of B (7th fret), E (7th fret), D (5th fret) and A (5th fret) power chords.

Main riff:

1)---------------------------|
2)---------------------------|
3)-4-4-----------------------|
4)-4-4-----------------------|
5)-2-2------0-------0------0-|
6)------0-2-----0-2----0-2---|


Chorus:

1)---------------------------|
2)---------------------------|
3)-7---6---9---8-------------|
4)-7---7---9---9-------------|
5)-5---7---7---9-------------|
6)-----5-------7-------------|

Middle 8 and Outro:

1)---------------------------|
2)---------------------------|
3)-8---9---7---6-------------|
4)-9---9---7---7-------------|
5)-9---7---5---7-------------|
6)-7-----------5-------------|



...

Parachute Woman

For many a year I have heard this 50's Rock and Roll rhythm part, but swayed from it being Brian to it being an overdub. Managing to isolate it a touch more and comparing with what Brian is shown playing allows me to conclude that it is indeed Brian playing. The piano sometime s gave impression he was playing higher when I was seeing him in the film playing the rhythm in first position.

Youtube - Parachute Woman

Brian Jones - guitar (R&R rhythm)
Keith Richards - guitar - (Riffs and lead)

Brian's part consist of some good 50's rock and roll rhythm like he used to play in 1963 - 1965. A throwback to earlier times, it's frustrating that he was mixed so low. His tone is more dirty than Jumpin' Jack Flash and seemingly less bassy too. Too much tab to bother with here. tongue sticking out smiley

...

You Can't Always Get What You Want

Took awhile to suss this one out. In part due to the weirdness of the mix on the official release. The intro is stage mic wise. Just Keith, then Nicky and Brian, Mick etc. In this isolated mix we mostly hear what I assume are just Keith and Brian's own amp mics. Keith is heard on his own until 1:03 which is when Brian's guitar comes in. Tone wise it's similar to Jumpin' Jack Flash, but a bit less bassy.

Youtube - You Can't Always Get What You Want

Brian Jones - guitar (warm, bassy tone)
Keith Richards - guitar - (tremolo & bright, distorted tone)

Brian's part is quite... interesting. grinning smiley For the C chord he plays a low C note at the 8th fret on the 6th string and sometimes plays the fifth at same time at the 10th fret. For the F he plays a partial chord consisting of a C note at 8th fret on 6th string, a F note at the 8th ret on the 5th string and a A note at the 7th fret on the 4th string. For the change he plays a D chord in open position, then back to his partial F at the 8th fret.

Main verses, chorus and change:

1)-----------|
2)-----------|
3)-----------|
4)--------7--|
5)-(10)---8--|
6)--8-----8--|


1)-2-----|
2)-3-----|
3)-2-----|
4)-0--7--|
5)----8--|
6)----8--|
smileys with beer



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-13 17:03 by His Majesty.



Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Online Users

Guests: 263
Record Number of Users: 184 on May 17, 2018 22:46
Record Number of Guests: 3948 on December 7, 2015 15:07

Previous page Next page First page IORR home