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keefriff99
"I never had a personal beef with the Stones"
Hmm, I'm not sure about that.
I seem to recall Ashcroft saying some unkind things about Mick and Keith at the time, and about how they hadn't written a decent song in years (this was back in the late '90s.
Anyone else remember?
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keefriff99
"I never had a personal beef with the Stones"
Hmm, I'm not sure about that.
I seem to recall Ashcroft saying some unkind things about Mick and Keith at the time, and about how they hadn't written a decent song in years (this was back in the late '90s.
Anyone else remember?
I imagine Richard Ashcroft was grumpy at the time, but if you'd seen his opening performances on the Stones' tour last year it was clear his hatred was directed at the song's owner, the Allen Klein family, while his love for the Stones was loud and clear.
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keefriff99
"I never had a personal beef with the Stones"
Hmm, I'm not sure about that.
I seem to recall Ashcroft saying some unkind things about Mick and Keith at the time, and about how they hadn't written a decent song in years (this was back in the late '90s.
Anyone else remember?
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Deltics
From The Guardian:
Bitter Sweet Symphony is one of the definitive British singles of the 1990s: a moody, existential anthem driven forward by a distinctive string motif. Those four seconds of strings were sampled from an orchestral recording of the Rolling Stones song The Last Time, but the rights were not fully cleared before the song was released.
Publishing company ABKCO, owned by Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein, argued that the Verve had used a larger portion of the sample than was agreed, and, following a lawsuit that was settled out of court, forced Ashcroft to relinquish the song’s royalties and create a new songwriting credit: Jagger/Richards/Ashcroft. Following the decision, Ashcroft quipped: “This is the best song Jagger and Richards have written in 20 years.”
But following an overture to Jagger and Richards from Ashcroft’s management company, the pair “immediately, unhesitatingly and unconditionally agreed” to hand over the royalties. Ashcroft gave thanks to everyone involved in the deal: “My management Steve Kutner and John Kennedy, the Stones manager Joyce Smyth and Jody Klein (for actually taking the call), lastly a huge unreserved heartfelt thanks and respect to Mick and Keith. Music is power.”
[www.theguardian.com]
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buttons67
not getting this, if allen klien owned the royalties how can jagger give them back.
they should hand back half only, apparently ashcroft cretaed half a masterpiece, ans sampled the other half.
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wonderboy
Would love to know if Jagger-Richards are giving back past royalties? Maybe the royalties were held in escrow all these years?
How much does a song like this generate every year?
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35love
Is he buying us dinner? Tickets to a show?
Glad somebody’s gettin paid around here LOL
Nah y’know I love that tune.
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wonderboy
Would love to know if Jagger-Richards are giving back past royalties? Maybe the royalties were held in escrow all these years?
How much does a song like this generate every year?
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35love
Probably as much as hiring Victoria Secret models for the videos:
THE ROLLING STONES You Got me Rocking(KAROLINA KURKOVA)
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THE ROLLING STONES Let Me Down Slow (DOUTZEN KROES)
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Ellipooh
The royalties were originally claimed on behalf of “The Last Time” but not the version I know. Instead, an instrumental version by ALOldham. Which I heard for the first time today. While I agree that Verve’s version plays heavily on that instrumental, I can’t for the life of me hear the MJ/KR tune in either. What am 8 missing?