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ukcal
what happened to the live tracks with Bill and Mick Taylor, didn't bruce sprngsteen do tumbling dice at least three times, also guest spots from Clapton and John Foggerty??
Could have been just a live cd for my money, even add dylan doing rolling stone with them again at least twice from 98
fire the management - it is a half baked idea at best, they do relise that we
can get all the missing/good stuff on youtube....
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ironbelly
Should we start?
1. This is going to be the greatest thing ever!
2. I can't wait, look at that tracklisting!
3. I have pre-ordered 3 sets! (2 to be kept sealed)
4. It shipped!
5. Even better than I thought it was going to be!
6. It sucks.
7. A missed opportunity.
8. Looking forward to the 60th anniversary set.
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Doxa
That said, as usual when CDs are transformed into vinyls, the result is usually artificial (one main reason why I haven't warmed up into the 'come back of vinyl'). When I first saw the track list, based on vinyl versions, those sides didn't make much sense (in terms of flow, how the songs fit together, etc.). The CD version 'looks' better. So it is rather likely that HONK - as any product today - is planned foremost as a CD version. The live album is just an extra (to attract die-hard and Ed Sheeran fans).
- Doxa
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Christos
So many similarities...
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sjs12
I would have thought either something entirely new, something based around the No Filter theme or back to the archives with an interesting twist would have been the way to go.
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sjs12
Maybe the live songs will make it worth buying this one?
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I would have thought either something entirely new, something based around the No Filter theme or back to the archives with an interesting twist would have been the way to go.
HONK (71-16) is simply an updated Jump Back (71-93) - therefore it's ok.
The NoFilter-Tour isn't over yet so maybe later on a appropriate release. And I'm quite sure there will be a lot of Archive-releases when the Stones aren't active anymore ....
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Deltics
The joke's on us and they're laughing all the way to the bank.
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35love
“Just for the record, on the latest Billboard 200 chart, 28 albums are Greatest Hits collections” (quote)
What does this say? Humans imprinted these songs in their brains, into their DNA/ computer chip / computer corporate cultural takeover
and humankind can no longer take in new music, new art
Advert, Sports, Replay bombarded the same stuff over over over and now we’re stuck?
Too deep? Okay rah rah greatest hits.
(still in a bad mood)
There is so much great new music out there, but you won't find it in mainstream media or the Billboard charts. It's happening in underground clubs and it is being written about in independent media. When Rock & Roll started the situation was basically the same – it was a regional phenomenon, ignored by the mainstream media and Sam Phillips was selling records out of the trunk of his car.
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ironbelly
Honk (71-16) is not a simple update to Jump Back (71-93) for one reason. Jump Back was mastered by Bob Ludwig.
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Chris Fountain
Maybe the live songs will make it worth buying this one?
I was thinking the same thing. I want the live Disc only. However, it is interesting to see Rocks Off in a different format. It costs $25 to stream.
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MononoM
i hope they sell the live disc separately... no reason to buy the studio discs...[/[/b]quote]
..and that is exactly why they won't offer it separately .
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Chris Fountain
Maybe the live songs will make it worth buying this one?
I was thinking the same thing. I want the live Disc only. However, it is interesting to see Rocks Off in a different format. It costs $25 to stream.
This is about the only valid reason for 'die-hards' to moan about. They are forced to buy the whole set if they want to have that extra live album including non-released material (Ed Sheeran fans will just stream their song). That live album works similarly like the new songs for FORTY LICKS and GRRR... There is a good commercial reason for that (they know they have a strong diehard fan section with their pockets always open)...
Otherwise, like some more cooler heads have mentioned here, HONK is nothing but an updated version of JUMP BACK (which was an updated version of REWIND, which was an updated version of MADE IN THE SHADE), each just covering more ground as the years go by, to get a Promotone (post '71) era greatest hits. Most likely there is always an audience for those kind of releases, and that, if anything, keeps their record company happy. For the potential target audience, casual fans and fresh ears, it is actually a good thing that a greatest hits collection is updated once in a while to get more complete picture of their career (there is no reason - or even possibility - for ABKCO era to do that, so HOT ROCKS is here to stay for good, covering nicely that era). I don't have any use for any of these releases, since they are not aimed at me. I will skip this one as I did with JUMP BACK and REWIND (and I don't even own HOT ROCKS). Not even that bonus live album does the trick for me, since I have lost that kind of completist mindset years ago as far as their (post 89) live performances go. No need for that or, say, BRIDGES TO BREMEN. So I am free of that 'die-hard issue'. Sorry, Mick..
I am actually grateful that they didn't include any new song there, since that most likely would have forced me to purchase the album, like they those bastards once fooled me with FORTY LICKS and GRRR...
- Doxa
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diverseharmonicsIsn't Dave Grohl around fifty-something years old now?..hardly a hip youngin' anymore.Quote
dcba
Not if - like Jagger - you're obsessive about keeping the Stones as a trendy hip entity in the eyes of the 12-20 music buyers. In that regard Grohl is the nec plus ultra.
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liddas
You can see it this way: you pay 15 euro for the live album (while the average price for a new release is 20 euro) and you get two greatest hits CDs for free to keep in the car or at the seaside or to give to firends ...
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liddas
You can see it this way: you pay 15 euro for the live album (while the average price for a new release is 20 euro) and you get two greatest hits CDs for free to keep in the car or at the seaside or to give to firends ...
Hahaha, yes indeed... the product isn't that expensive at all (or depends on format)... But I guess quite many of us are trying at the moment to discover a suitable way to explain to their conscience why it is reasonable to buy this mostly totally useless product...
I think had they included one Taylor "Rambler", they would have caught me...
- Doxa
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liddas
You can see it this way: you pay 15 euro for the live album (while the average price for a new release is 20 euro) and you get two greatest hits CDs for free to keep in the car or at the seaside or to give to firends ...
Hahaha, yes indeed... the product isn't that expensive at all (or depends on format)... But I guess quite many of us are trying at the moment to discover a suitable way to explain to their conscience why it is reasonable to buy this mostly totally useless product...
I think had they included one Taylor "Rambler", they would have caught me...
- Doxa